$4 gas... question?

Eric,
My Cummin's gets 26 mpg, 75 mph @ 2000 rpm. Last trip to Mi we went from Cleveland to Raliegh NC on 1 tank. If I push it 740 mi on a tank of fuel.

you guys would never believe what i passed this morning, the gas station hah
dog, i think you are thinking of cornmash whiskey, next thing will be a grow room

I love the guys at the pump who, when done turn it off and wiggle the hose thinking their getting the gas left in the hose.
Brazil, uses sugar cane based ethanol???? moreso than crude...
anyone notice food prices skyrocketing?

Im with Trump on this one, protection will cost you.

skicat2001 wrote: davidg wrote: Drill Baby....Drill!!!! We need to use our own resources instead of relying on OPEC! [/IMG] 10 4 David

Drilling won't cut what the world will use by the time those drills produce anything.


We do need to use our own resources, and it will probably come from the US armed forces developing biofuel as a viable alternative to unsafe shale gas production and other less viable and or responsible methods. As an odd bit of fate, the same day that "deepwater horizon" killed all those workers and sunk, the US navy flew their first biofuel powered fighter jet.

Forcing the burdon of developing biofuel and alternative fuel on the US automakers is not the quick solution. The military getting the infrastructure to do biofuels will allow us to get a huge jump start on the real fix.

Last summer I would pull up to the pump, pump gas into the suburban till it shut off at $75.00, then pull ahead and do the same in the Martinique. I have found that if you hit the "pay inside credit" button on the pump it doesn't shut off at $75 at my local station. Last fill up in the 'burb was $106.

David

The US is supporting offshore drilling!!


From WSJ article:

"Obama Underwrites Offshore Drilling
Too bad it's not in U.S. waters.

You read that headline correctly. Unfortunately, the Obama Administration is financing oil exploration off Brazil.

The U.S. is going to lend billions of dollars to Brazil's state-owned oil company, Petrobras, to finance exploration of the huge offshore discovery in Brazil's Tupi oil field in the Santos Basin near Rio de Janeiro. Brazil's planning minister confirmed that White House National Security Adviser James Jones met this month with Brazilian officials to talk about the loan. "

Goto WSJ online for the whole article....if you can stomache it! We are sooo *************** stupid in this country. Put people to work, drill our own and be done.

On my way to the Hurricane flipping, I paid $4.04 the other day. I need to fuel up tomorrow and I'll see what it's gone up to. Damn, with the card $$$ limits at the pay at the pump, now it will defiantly be a two credit card fill up!

davidg wrote: Drill Baby....Drill!!!! We need to use our own resources instead of relying on OPEC! [/IMG]

10 4 David

Chalk that up to government regulation.there is a anti gas war law that sets the bottom price for gas (a certain margin above cost. This is designed to protect the little guy from a prolonged price war from a big player, but also eliminates fire sales on gas.

OverMyHead wrote: In 1976 bread cost .30, today average is 2.28, an increase of 933% yet I never hear complaints about big bread profits.

Dave, you can buy bread at the local grocery store in their generic brand for about .99 our you can go to the Hostess outlet store and get it about the same price. I keep looking for the gas station selling day old gas for $1.79 or less. [;)] [;)] [;)]

When I got sent on my little vacation by Uncle Sam overseas in '04 diesel was cheaper than gas. I sold my F150 before I left, before I returned I ordered a new '06 diesel to be waiting my return. Diesel was now more than gas.
Ultra-low process had some to do with it but it's also the road tax we're paying, I get to pay the same road tax as a semi truck.
The upside is the mileage increase like Eric stated. With my 150 pulling my trailer I got 8mpg with my diesel pulling the same trailer on the same trip I get 16mpg.

here is my logic, because i drive a diesel, people alawys question me why i drive a diesel, and i will from here on out, they always say diesel is more expensive than gas so why would i want one. here is my reply, you are roughly getting 20 mpg on gas, i get on average 45 mpg, so to go 45 miles it costs me 4.00 bucks for you to go 45 miles it costs you about 8.50....is this very hard to understand?....now if your getting 12 mpg, figure that out lol
the only way i ever get a raise is to cut down on costs, so driving the diesel was my raise for the year

Kristof wrote: Current fuel prices in Belgium... Diesel:   1,463 euro/liter    equals    8,039 $/gal Gas:      1,679 euro/liter    equals    9,226 $/gal LPG:      0,692 euro/liter    equals    3,803 $/gal And they're gonna keep going up in the following weeks... Just to put things back into perspective for you guys...

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Is your diesel the low sulphur kind because youres is considerably less than gas and ours is the opposite?

What can you expect, they have us paying a buck for a pint of water.

In 1976 gas cost .60 per gallon today it is about $4.00 an increase of 666%. In 1976 bread cost .30, today average is 2.28, an increase of 933% yet I never hear complaints about big bread profits. I have heard oil company profits have been remakably consisten at a return of 7% on the dollar invested for years. That is a return of 1.07 for every dollar spent. In 2008 when then candidate hillory clinton was complaining about record profits for oil companys racking in that big 7 cents on the dollar, verison wireless made 100% profit, 2 dollars returned for every one spent, but the media and politicians make the oil companies out as the greedy bad guys, and our ignorant electorate buys the whole scam. Demand for gas rises nearly every year, giving oil companys record sales nearly every year. Taking the same 7 cents on the dollar for each gallon of gas gives them record profits nearly every year. It is all about volume. At 4$ per gallon oil companys make about a 28 cent per gallon profit, meanwhile in Minnesota gas taxes are 45.6 cents per gallon. The oil companies buy or drill for the oil, transport it or build pipe lines, refine it, store it, transport it to the gas stations and sell it for .28 cents per gallon profit. What is the government doing for its 45.6 cent share? Building light rail? Have you ever tried to hook up your correct craft to a light rail train? As far as the differnce between 2008 and now, oil is sold in us dollars and that has not changed (yet),but it is not just the purchase of raw crude, everything the oil company has to do (listed above) has to be paid in US dollars. With our country monitising its debt, our currencies value is dropping on the world market, and we are seeing real inflation in transportation cost here in the U.S.. also in Minnesota gas taxes have gone up 5.1 cents per gallon since 2008. It all adds up, and goes way beyond oil company profits.

Drill Baby....Drill!!!!

We need to use our own resources instead of relying on OPEC!

I remember in '08 gas in downtown Chicago was $4.60/gal. Here in the suburbs, it was ~$1.00/gal less. Now, most stations around here are at $4.09 even in the milktoast burbs. But, whats the alternative? A Chevy Volt??