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    Posted: April-20-2013 at 8:57pm
Quick question. I have an 81 SN, in the process of replacing all the fuel lines. Finished this afternoon, where is the fuel tank typically grounded. I have an AL tank with a tab. Thanks, Dan.
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Dan,
the ground goes to the engine block. You should have a common ground back there anyway for the fuel fill ans aft nav light.


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Thanks, wasn't sure if it should go back to block on a single ground or if I could tie it into the other grounds. Dan
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The metallic deck fill fitting will also require grounding. Its OK to daisy chain it.
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Originally posted by baitkiller baitkiller wrote:

The metallic deck fill fitting will also require grounding. Its OK to daisy chain it.

Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:

Dan,
a common ground back there anyway for the fuel fill


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Right or wrong, none of the cc's I've taken apart have had grounds run to the tank or filler.
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Originally posted by TRBenj TRBenj wrote:

Right or wrong, none of the cc's I've taken apart have had grounds run to the tank or filler.

If no ground to the tank, then the fuel gauge won't work!!!

Tim,
Regarding the fill, you had better check up on the USCG regs!!


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The sender ground should not be used nor construed as a tank ground. They are two different animals. A close look at late model senders will reveal that they are designed to be electrically isolated via plastic washers on the screws.

I typically don't get worked up over ski boats and the ABYC standards, just the CFRs, of which this is one. Hard fuel pressure lines is the other. Most of these boats dont have battery disconnect switches or fuses on the float switch. I dont really care.

Shall we have a discussion on friction discharge,(static is a wrong word and i dont want the Professor getting angry.) portable gas cans, trailers and boat lifts? I have spent three occasions in the burn ward interviewing boat owners. Please ground the fills.

To take it a step further, My center console has a jumper from the deck fill to the breast cleat. I always touch the can or gas station dispenser to the cleat first to balance the two before removing the fill cap. This jumper went on after one of visits to the burn ward.


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Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:

Originally posted by TRBenj TRBenj wrote:

Right or wrong, none of the cc's I've taken apart have had grounds run to the tank or filler.

If no ground to the tank, then the fuel gauge won't work!!!

Tim,
Regarding the fill, you had better check up on the USCG regs!!

Don't take up the issue with me Pete, cc is the one who didn't run the extra ground wire! All the boats I'm talking about hadn't been apart before.
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Tim,
I understood what CC didn't do. They should have bonded the fill to the breast cleat.


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You got it Pete, nothing slips past you guys..

Some day I am gonna figure out why I keep coming back for more.
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My '85 and '95 both had grounds on the filler and tanks. Don't know if it was stock or not but they were there when I took them apart.
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Originally posted by baitkiller baitkiller wrote:

You got it Pete, nothing slips past you guys..

Some day I am gonna figure out why I keep coming back for more.

Everything should be bonded to the ground/block. If the the block is a good ground source is a big ?? I've never meggered out a block to ground (water)!!


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When we talk about ground to the block, and ultimately to the negative terminal of the battery...

is that the same thing as

Ground used for discharge of static energy?
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Originally posted by Bri892001 Bri892001 wrote:

When we talk about ground to the block, and ultimately to the negative terminal of the battery...

is that the same thing as

Ground used for discharge of static energy?

Yes, the intent is to dissipate any static to the water/ground. Some wood boat manufacturers would even bond the rudder port, log and strut to the block. The idea is the same as setting your fuel containers on the ground when filling them at the gas station. Yes, even plastic fuel containers!!


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