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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote KENO Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August-11-2021 at 7:40pm
OK Bucky................we're gonna get this figured out. Wink

I imagine you could take a couple of pictures of the distributors showing the gear on the new installed one and the gear on the extra older one. In both cases show the whole distributor so we tell what brand they are.

You may have a hard time posting them here on CCF (don't worry, lots of people have that problem)

If that's the case, then e mail them to     keno439@gmail.com and I'll have my squad of "picture posters" put them here on CCF and we'll solve this mystery.

PS from the info you've given already, the starter is turning the engine in the proper direction since the rotor is going counter clockwise.
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Bucky,
Did you confirm the engine rotation using the ling Ken provided?  One post you say LH and the another RH. Here the link again again:


BTW, has the starter been changed lately?


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Sorry for my incompetence, thats where i was confused, ill get a cam for a left hand rotation engine, and i have no idea how they got the new distributor in there but the gears are definitely opposite on the new and old distributor
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Gary S Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August-11-2021 at 6:13pm
I think you are confused-  "so now i just need a camshaft for the left hand rotation".  Left hand is normal automotive rotation,Correct Craft used right hand rotation engines in their boats. If yours is right handed I gave you a link above- call them,Ford camshafts is all they do. If it's a left handed engine any stock flat tappet automotive cam will work. And like Ken said there is no way that distributor would fit into place and run to damage it like that. You need to find out how and why that damage happened.
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It has been converted to electronic ignition and there was an old points style distributor (assuming it to be oem) in one of the storage areas. I compared the teeth on the old one to the distributor that is in it now and it is indeed the wrong gear on the newer distributor so i believe I figured out what chewed the camshaft gear to pieces😡 so now i just need a camshaft for the left hand rotation. I looked on mellings website and i couldnt find one for that specific setup, maybe someone has a link?
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Originally posted by Buckyr2 Buckyr2 wrote:

It is a reverse rotation engine, someone must have put the wrong distributor in it, so all i need is a reverse rotation cam and distributor and im all set
 

You can't put a wrong rotation distributor in it. Wink

The gears won't mesh at all and it comes nowhere even remotely close to being seated right.

If somebody replaced the distributor or the gear and the gear wasn't located at the right place on the shaft you could have issues with wear.

The teeth on your right hand rotation distributor gear would look like this  \\\\\\\\

A normal rotation is the opposite  /////////

The camshaft gears are opposite from each other too.

What do you have for a distributor now ?

Ford started with the one piece seal in 83, so if your engine is original it's a one piece.

You can find the block casting number hiding above and behind the starter if you want to verify when the block was cast or if you have the transmission, bell housing and flywheel out of the way you can see the seal.

Click on the link for some seal info

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And would any of you happen to know whether or not i have a 2 piece rear main seal or not, i dont know how to distinguish the two
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It is a reverse rotation engine, someone must have put the wrong distributor in it, so all i need is a reverse rotation cam and distributor and im all set
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Here's a link with a good picture to help you figure out your rotation 


Once you're sure of that, things should be easier to figure out as far as parts etc. Wink

There's a reason your gear(s) got chewed up, you should have that figured out/straightened out before just putting new stuff in, to avoid a repeat.
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Gary im going to make sure I have a reverse rotation engine when i get off work, it seems like the crankshaft was turning clockwise when i was cranking it (before I realized what was wrong)
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http://www.camresearchcorp.com/   also check out their camshaft break in service as well. Don't worry about water reversion I don't think there is any reverse rotation camshaft that is that radical because of their limited application 
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Do any of you know where i can get the right cam for it? Im wanting to stay with something close to factory so i dont have to deal with water getting to the cylinders
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If the distributor drive gear on the camshaft is chewed you will need a reverse rotation Camshaft to get the valve opening correct. And if the Cam gear is as bad as you say it is, don't forget to look at the distributor gear. That is a special piece as well. Melling for example makes reverse rotation camshafts as well as the necessary distributor gear.
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Originally posted by GottaSki GottaSki wrote:

They both turn counter clockwise else no oil pressure

Bucky,
Just to clarify what Tom stated, the distributor turns the same dirction on ether a standard or reverse rotation 351. 


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They both turn counter clockwise else no oil pressure
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So the rotor on the distributor should turn clockwise if its reverse rotation? My rotor bug rotates counter clockwise
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they would interchange as long as the rotation of both engines is the same.  88 Martinique should be reverse rotation I believe.  
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I have a 1988 correct craft martinique that the distributor drive gear on the camshaft is chewed up, can i use a camshaft from a mercruiser 351w?
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