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    Posted: May-12-2022 at 2:51pm
It’s that time of year to get the boat ready (1984 Ski Nautique 2001), I happened to try turning the steering wheel in the garage and felt a click and now the rudder doesn’t turn with the wheel. I can spin the wheel without any resistance in both directions with no point of stopping it. Everything is still attached where the cable attaches to the rudder. Where should I start, taking apart that box behind the dash that the steering wheel mounts to?
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Should list what boat you are working on for better advice,  model and year of manufacture help.
Sounds like you broke the steering cable but only a tear down will confirm.  
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Originally posted by MrMcD MrMcD wrote:

Should list what boat you are working on for better advice,  model and year of manufacture help.
Sounds like you broke the steering cable but only a tear down will confirm.  


It’s a 1984 Ski Nautique 2001
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Mav, you're back  

Better that it happened now instead of at 40 plus mph Wink

There's no need to disassemble the rotary mechanism to change the complete cable.

Search here on CCF for steering cable replacement and make sure you're reading about a rotary system and not a rack and pinion setup

Your rotary cable is easier to pull from the back of the boat once it's disconnected at the helm and at the rudder.

You want to tie/tape about 20 feet of rope to the front of the old cable before you pull it out the back so that you can hook the rope to the new cable and use the rope to help pull it forward.

You'll need the "special" AKA  expensive Correct Craft dealer only 17'5 ft cable to maintain the same steering radius. 
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Originally posted by KENO KENO wrote:

Mav, you're back  

Better that it happened now instead of at 40 plus mph Wink

There's no need to disassemble the rotary mechanism to change the complete cable.

Search here on CCF for steering cable replacement and make sure you're reading about a rotary system and not a rack and pinion setup

Your rotary cable is easier to pull from the back of the boat once it's disconnected at the helm and at the rudder.

You want to tie/tape about 20 feet of rope to the front of the old cable before you pull it out the back so that you can hook the rope to the new cable and use the rope to help pull it forward.

You'll need the "special" AKA  expensive Correct Craft dealer only 17'5 ft cable to maintain the same steering radius. 


Thanks for your help Ken I’m going to order the new cable tonight
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Originally posted by Crmaverick Crmaverick wrote:

It’s that time of year to get the boat ready (1984 Ski Nautique 2001), I happened to try turning the steering wheel in the garage and felt a click and now the rudder doesn’t turn with the wheel. I can spin the wheel without any resistance in both directions with no point of stopping it. Everything is still attached where the cable attaches to the rudder. Where should I start, taking apart that box behind the dash that the steering wheel mounts to?
Thanks


Most likely i'm wrong but based off your description;

"Spin the wheel w/out resistance in both directions with no point of stopping"  (sounds like the cable popped out of the helm/or something stripped in the helm itself.) 

"Felt a click" ( doesn't sound like a broken cable, has it been getting stiff and hard to turn past few years?)
When that last spiral comes out of the rotary the wheel free spins but theres enough cable in the housing preventing it from falling.
Is the rudder hard over ?

Keno,  Wouldn't a broken cable push the rudder over then not pull it back and the wheel should still stop by virtue of the cable ends hitting at the break in one direction and the take up tube on the helm stop it in the other ? unless it was turned right out of the helm and all over the drivers lap

What year was the rotary helm updated to the click lock instead of the bolted on collar lock ?

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After a text, a couple of pictures and a phone call or 2, Mav unscrewed the nut holding the cable to the rotary helm and the inner cable was broken right there.

The rest of the inner cable was pulled out after he took the little plastic tube off the helm and gave a little pull on the end of the cable.

Just a guess that when it broke, I think he spun the wheel enough to get that last spiral disengaged from the helm, all the way into the plastic tube  then it would free spin after that.

Beats me when the nut was replaced by the click lock, but he should end up with the right "special" cable since I think he was getting it through Nautiqueparts
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So 84 still had the nut.
your right, better she breaks on the trailer than in the water.

Crmaverick can you include pictures of the break, and is the nut cable still made or will you have to add the click lock part to the original helm ?
Hope nothing is zip tied or cushion clamped to it less you be crawling under the engine and contorting under the dash.
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Being the "special" only available from CC cable for 82-90 models, it still has the nut for his helm setup.

I saw a couple of Mav's pictures, but nothing too interesting or too clear either.
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