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    Posted: December-15-2022 at 2:01am
My boat's exhaust risers are 3.5" OD, but the mufflers and exhaust tips are 3".  There is about a foot of 3.5" hose running from the riser to a 3.5" to 3" stainless steel reducer to which the 3" hose then connects. There is a small water leak where the two hoses join at the reducer on the port side of the engine, which doesn't seem to go away even if I tighten the hose clamps thoroughly. The reducer has a small crack along a welded seam, and I suspect that may be the source of the leak. So I'm potentially looking at replacing the reducers, but have a few questions I'm hoping someone can help with:

1. I notice the commercially available reducers (from Centek) are all fiberglass. Any reason why fiberglass is the preferred material to use in this application and not stainless steel?

2. Is it feasible to DIY fabricate such a fiberglass reducer, or is it likely to be more tricky than it looks? I assume one needs a resin that can withstand reasonably high temperatures for long periods, but other than that it seems pretty straightforward?

Thanks for any help!

P.S. I wanted to post a picture, but am also getting the 'Not enough space on the disk' error.



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I guess I'd wonder why you don't just get the SS reducer repaired. Maybe the picture that you can't post would explain that Wink

It's a lot easier to tighten the hose clamps on SS than on fiberglass which would deform/crack a lot easier

I think you'll find that all those marine fiberglass mufflers are made with fire/flame retardent fiberglass which makes them kinda expensive.

Here on CCF people just seem to use regular resin for repair/patch jobs without burning things up.

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You can buy new SS exhaust reducers for automotive on line
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I'm aware of the issues around crushing fiberglass exhaust system parts, which makes me wonder why the industry standard seems to be to use fiberglass and not stainless steel?
If there is no reason to use fiberglass over stainless steel I'll definitely look to get that reducer repaired. I did have an initial go at trying to get it out of the exhaust hose, but it looks like it's going to be a proper wrestling match...
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So, I put some nice aluminum manifolds and risers on an '81....oops! 3.5" into 3" exhaust...what to do?
Cut a short piece of the old 3" (non-corrugated) hose, put it on the muffler, then ran the 3.5" right to and over it. Double clamped, no leak. The old 3" acted like a spacer. And if it did leak, it was already down in the bilge. 
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Originally posted by Wilhelm Hertzog Wilhelm Hertzog wrote:

I'm aware of the issues around crushing fiberglass exhaust system parts, which makes me wonder why the industry standard seems to be to use fiberglass and not stainless steel?
If there is no reason to use fiberglass over stainless steel I'll definitely look to get that reducer repaired. I did have an initial go at trying to get it out of the exhaust hose, but it looks like it's going to be a proper wrestling match...

Back to your question about fiberglass vs. stainless steel

I'd figure it's got to do with corrosion resistance in salt water as much as anything else and since you use your boat in fresh water, brackish water and salt water at different times, that's why I was wondering what your picture looked like.

SS may be good in fresh water like most people on here are used to, but there's a reason monel is preferred in salt water cooling systems instead of SS of any kind.

How long have your SS reducers lasted so far and what kind of condition are they in?

If you're having a hard time getting the hose off the SS, it'll come off the fiberglass with about the same amount of wrestling and probably destroy the fiberglass while doing it.  It's a lot easier prying on the SS than prying on the fiberglass till it falls apart.
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The reducers must be five to seven years old. Not sure how to judge their condition - other than the small crack I noticed in the one, the insides are pretty black from exhaust. I guess I'll have to pull them out to properly assess. But that will have to wait, as we're right in the middle of boating season here in the southern hemisphere, and the leak is small enough that I can live with it for now.
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Sounds like a plan  Wink
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