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I found some more silicone, and froggy's still missing, not too worried about him, all the voids are full of water.
Just a few minutes to cut out.










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7 households lost power at 1600 hrs yesterday because a certain neighbor behind me can't maintain their property. I have offered to use my truck tools time and money along with the access i have thru the yard to cut back clean up and remove the waste, all I ever hear is how rhe plants will get stressed.
So starting on monday i will begin forging a new relationship with code enforcement by stopping by the office 3 or 4 times a week to complain about it and several other mouthy nosey neighbors who have trees and sheds inside the pud&e and without permits.

No thanks by the way for 30 feet of gate on the north and 12 feet of gate on the south property to access the utilities by the power company, they were upset i wouldn't let them drive 26 thousand pound truck over the watermain concrete and lawn.

The boss did say thanks for runnin to dunkin at 0700 tho.

As i understand it the hurricane caused some serious damage over on the gulf side for which i am sorry to hear and the bs here in the 32905 in no way even comes close to what other people are dealing with this morning.

Also after a sleepless night worried about froggy, i am happy to say that while outside watching the power company and doing some clean up this morning froggy was found alive and well hanging out on the side of the house.




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You are all invited to come on down and pick up the NINE bags of waterlogged foam scraped out of the 96 nautique., and tell me it doesn't weigh over 500 pounds.

That of course does not include the portion of the airbox that is foam filled or the stringers that water ran out of when i drilled drain holes in them.
There are 8 more holes to drill and i'll try to film them so you can see how bad they are waterlogged.

Plan is simple, cut the stringer tops off. Block up the boat, square it up and water level it side to side so the stringers can be ground down even/level by 1 full inch.

Most likely refoam the stringers and cap with 2 layers of 1208 and pull a mold.
The wide portion will stay wide as that is were every one jumps in the boat.

The stringers then get cut out of the 96 and get fit into the 84, maybe have to narrow the width
(see blue tape)
whatever happens i will have a stringer mold that will fit the NWZ hulls and at the least will know how to modify them to fit in the 01 hulls.

The 96 stringers are 26 inches apart
The 84 stringers are 21 1/2 inches apart the tie ins between the inner and outer stringers may need to shortened to fit (see blue tape)

In either case neither boat WILL NOT have foam filled floors and both will be fiberglass srringers not filled with foam.
3/4 inch, 6 pound corecell wrapped in 2 layers of 1208 or 1708 will bring that 1 inch back up to final elevation in the 96. The 84 will get the same floor to it's proper elevation.

BUYER BEWARE these things are sponges. Pull an engine mount lag and a transom or floor screw and stick a q tip in it. take it to the scales.

There was no dry foam anywhere and the hole i drilled by the driver seat i thought was gonna pop the fuse or shock me, it poured out of the tie in stringer.

I'll photo and measure the truck as well as post miles and weight slips after the dump on wednesday. Monday i got lawn and power washing in the morning and titles in the afternoon tuesday i got an appointment at 1400 and will be elbows and ***************s until that time.

I got video of the foam way up under the open bow completely saturated and running out.
I can pick the tongue up now that's how bad. I'll post the vid if theres any doubters.






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On another note or two,
the last 3 days have been busy and i didn't find out until today how bad the hurricane was and how hard some states were hit and that there was loss of life.

Second, i wanna hear the constructive criticism or regular criticism concerning both rebuilds before either goes too far utilitarian and no puff. When i read slalom tractor i think 70's/80's range rovers before they went all poofy and started getting stuck on wet pavement.
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Woke up at zero 4 was at the gates before they opened. Post dump 1 3/4 inches



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Outboard stringers wet but not as bad as the rest of the boat, maybe 50 pounds from both.

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Somebody asked about the 84 2001 battery/cooler hatches, said i'd measure it tuesday, here ya go and if anyone can point me to the source for this speedo part off the 96 snob i'd appreciate it.
The wood panels measure, 15 7/8 inches X 11 inches, they are 3/4 plywood, the trim lip is 1/4 inch and rhe radius is 3 1/4 inches




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Originally posted by wayoutthere wayoutthere wrote:

if anyone can point me to the source for this speedo part off the 96 snob i'd appreciate it.






Those Airguide speedo pitots haven't been produced for quite a while now, but if you PM your address to the guy that your carburetor was donated to, he'll send you a couple of genuine replacements. (used but in good shape) Wink
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Keno, be sure to pass along my thanks to that guy.

And to finish that pm, your obviously 1 of those guys,
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Not much to add, but I do sympathize with your project. I can’t say that I’m surprised that the foam is wet, it seems inevitable- closed cell or not.

I find these pics of the composite structure fascinating, big thanks for sharing. I don’t recall anyone digging in quite so deep and thoroughly before (and documenting it). I’m sure I’ll think of more, but a few questions while you’re in there poking around:

How thick is the layup of the ICS? Is it different on the mains vs secondary structures?

I assume there are backing plates on the inside of the main stringers for the engine cradle to bolt to?

Whats the inside of the stringer system faces look like now that you’ve cut some of the tops off? Gel covered? I would have guessed they were laid up on a male mold.

Now that the foam is out, I assume the spray relief pockets are visible on the inside? I can’t really make them out in the pics.
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Great work man

WIsh i took the time to review this in detail sooner.

on the 96, have you considered blowing the foam out of the main stringers and leaving their structure mostly intact, aside from a few access holes?   I did not have foam in my rcb's stringers, they were hollow, but foam disintegrates with a stout power washer and turbo tip
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TRBenj,
the only layer count +/- i can give at this point would be the hollowed out portion of the outer stringers and tie-ins, the wide parts and that would be (edit, 2-3 layers) of biax material, its not very strong because of the span, and not very consistent in that area.
The narrow portions forward and rear sections of the outboard stringers are strong, so are the engine stringers, i'll have a thickness once they are cut.

My guess is a male mold too but there is no gel inside or outside. All the stringers ars laid up in a biax material. In fact so is the hull and deck.

Engine stringers are modified with 1/4 inch aluminum and the engine cradle is lagged into the sides and down thru the top. Yep lagged, no thru bolts. Even lags on the transom for hardware that is covered by foam/floor.
Yes, the spray relief pockets and hullside reliefs are all visible and thus far the layup looks good.
Only problem is it looks like the stringers have a flange on the hull so it's a lap joint instead of a "L" or 90 degree bonded to the hull. That means foam could have squeezed in there like it did between the floor and top of the stringers. Have a better picture when all the foam is out and it'll photograph better too.

Gotta ski,
Yours might havexbeen the thread i was looking for about powerwashing the foam out, that was a great idea.
Right now i bought a 5 pack of sawzall blades, the trailer windshield etc should get mu money back but i can't relax at night unless i'm q tippin fiberglass dust outta my ears so we'll try and make something from this hull.

Another intact 01 or pre 01 boat is the ticket to completing the snob, no rush, 1 will pop up and be the hardware, interior and engine donor, the hull will be a bar and grill



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I think Dan is getting wayoutofthere and heading north to Ohio right about now to avoid a meeting with Milton Wink
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I did get wayouttathere on tuesday. Took only documents, non replaceables and the don't let that stuff fall into the wrong hands items.



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