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    Posted: January-14-2008 at 1:52am
We're just starting the restoration of a 1964 SN. The stringers and all framework in this boat are near excellent (pre-foam era) but like Boat Dr's American Skier was, she's full of gelcoat cracks. We're going the Petite Easypoxy route and so we decided the easiest way to get her bottom was to flip her over. (There's your next signature line, HW) I searched the forums thinking I'd seen some details on this before but couldn't find a thread, so we proceeded as we'd planned and rolled the boat using a engine cherry picker for the bow and a come-along and choker for the aft end. We had already moved the boat off its trailer and had her sitting on the dolly we used for the camper and trip to GL. We then lifted from one gunnel with the choker cinched there and she came right up on the other gunnel over several large tires. We then gently let her roll on over deck-down on several more tires and then lifted her back up straight (upside down) and onto the dolly again, resting on several carpeted 4x's sitting perpendicular across the dolly bunks. The whole thing took an hour maybe. Now we can get to the entire hull without destroying someone's back, shoulders and neck. Plans "right now" are for the entire boat to be painted Correct Craft dark red similar to Skicat's (Greg) skier or The Lake's (Chuck) SN, and hopefully in time for GL-08. This boat came with an Interceptor 289.
The boat is lifted and dolly pulled out.   

The boat swiveled great off the bow eye which is fortunately somewhat high on this boat:

That's Nautique John stabilizing while I watched and lowered the bow with the cherry picker:

Firmly sitting upside down:

And Boaty testing the hull's integrity:
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Nice job Reid,looks easy with a high ceiling and someone else doing it!
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Reid, Any method that works without damage to the boat or a person is the correct one. I think the thread you were looking for is Farmers but his pictures were lost when Keith switched to the new host. Farmer bilt Dannenburgs method with a gantry and straps to roll the hull. Very easy to use and worth the effort to build if you are planning on doing more than a couple boats. Next step for your building is a double bridge crane and 4 hoists and you'll have hulls flipped in 10 minutes!


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Reid,

I see a new reality show coming from this, "Flip this boat!"

Glad to see Boaty there supervising.

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Looks pretty smooth, I have had people recommend removing the exhaust and running a strap through the two holes to give you a pivot point in back similar to the tow hook in front that way it could be done without overhead beam work... Have only used the bunch of guys and a row of tires method myself..
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Pretty cool Reid. Nice shop!
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Nice job Reid . Where did this boat come from ?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Hollywood Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January-15-2008 at 4:12pm
Reid, this one was too good to cut all the way down to signature size. I think quinner sent a video of something like this around in an email last year.

Originally posted by reidp reidp wrote:

The easiest way to get her bottom was to flip her over. I searched the forums thinking I'd seen some details on this before but couldn't find a thread, so we proceeded as we'd planned using cherry picker and a come-along and choker. We had already had her sitting on the dolly we used for the camper and trip to GL. We then lifted with the choker and she came right on several large tires. We then gently let her roll on over several more tires and then lifted her back up straight (upside down) and onto the dolly again, resting on several carpeted 4x's sitting perpendicular across the dolly bunks. The whole thing took an hour maybe destroying skicat's (Greg) back, shoulders and neck while I watched.


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How did I get mixed up in Reid's twisted world?
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Reid - So the real questions is how do we turn it back over once it is finished? Reversing this with a beautiful finish is going to take some more TLC...

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Santo, the plan for that is; you, me, Nautique John, Jerry, Josh (Sabre02), and about 3 others, and we'll lift it and spin it by hand. That's the best I can come up with for now. I guess I should have thought about that before we turned it over to begin with, but you know that's not my style.

Unrelated, just noticed on your profile that your occupation is listed as "engine tester". Shouldn't that be "engine blower upper", oh skiff meister extraordinaire?
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Originally posted by reidp reidp wrote:


Unrelated, just noticed on your profile that your occupation is listed as "engine tester". Shouldn't that be "engine blower upper", oh skiff meister extraordinaire?


Reid, I think you've got this engine testing wrong! He may test engines but the ones that blow up have been pre driven. I wonder who pre drove the skiff???


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Reid i think you need a custom built rotisserie, and i dont mean one to cook those pork butts
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Eric, I would like to have one indeed. Do you know a source and how much $$, as we don't do this that often but hope to do more down the road. TimB or someone mentioned something about creating a bracket going thru the exh ports and spinning the transom off that. I like our current means of supporting and rolling at the bow without damaging a new finish but with just a little more protective cushioning.

And I still wish you'd reconsider your tolerance for itchy fiberglass in exchange for that Tique. Or maybe I should just grow a set and tackle it ourselves.
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Pete how do you come up with all this info day after day?

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John, I don't know how he does it in the summer but right now it's 6 out with a wind chill of -8 so I'll bet he's not far from the pc!
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Reid, run that deal by me again..
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Eric, I've got this neat (to me) old '67 original orange gelcoat SN with really rotten stringers (see diaries). The foam was removed by a former owner and we've removed the outer 1x stringers. This was the boat which you and I originally discussed doing a retro job on and installing the Mopar v-drive, but after talking with the Walter people (which you warned me about) I determined that the engine/drive pkg was a no-go, so I'm back to conventional thinking. The boat to trade is a 78 Tique with a nice hull but vacant interior. It's currently got a 302 but I was willing to swap in a complete 305 MerCruiser (yes, GM which I think was a prequisite),which came from another Paul Carpenter Tique we scuttled. And the original CC trailer. And I'll do the delivery with my Medina-native friends from down here. Any chance you'll reconsider?      
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youve got me thinking, how much work is involved on the 67?
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Gary: At least you posted them awful conditions on Sunday so I know you weren't out in them.

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PS to Reid: Who are you "Medina-native" friends? I grew up close to Medina. Brunstucky..home of the famous eric..was in between us (Strongsville) and there.

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