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    Posted: July-30-2008 at 8:09pm
I'm putting a 360lb concrete base in the lake this weekend (don't ask me how...) for a new round Scanmarin buoy.

I want to mark the buoy with our address, as it will be vacant in the winter months.

Any ideas? All I can think of is a felt marker...
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What is a scanmarin bouy? Wouldn't you remove the bouy and sink the chain in the winter so a snowmobiler won't hit it going 100?
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Not sure what a "Scanmarin" bouy is either, but if it is plastic, you could brand it. If it is steel, you could weld your address.

I am assuming you have already considered Riley's concern and it is not an issue?
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Rob, You really need to check out the local regulations regarding leaving it in over the winter. Bruce (Riley) is correct that normally buoys are sunk under water by shortening the line. We do it for our marker buoys on the ski jump after it's pulled for the winter.

If you do leave in on the surface for a snowmobiler to hit and get hurt, do you really what to put your name on it? Makes it pretty convenient for his attorney to get in "touch" with you!!!


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Found this on the web for a Scanmarin buoy
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Concrete - mark it with a sharpie and chisle it or a tool marker "vibra-pen".
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Around my parts we dont remove them to save the snowmobilers we remove them because once frozen in a large chunk of ice a good spring rain or thaw can raise water level and the ice floats away with your bout anchor and chain.
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Originally posted by Riley Riley wrote:

What is a scanmarin bouy? Wouldn't you remove the bouy and sink the chain in the winter so a snowmobiler won't hit it going 100?


He he. No, I live in Vancouver, BC, and our lakes in this region don't freeze in the winter. Snowmobilers head up north or to higher elevations to find tracks.

The photo is very similar to my buoy. I guess a sharpie it is, then? I have such poor handwriting... I probably won't recognize it.

So, I have this 360lb concrete block I poured in the back of my pickup. I think we will put it in shallow water close to the final location, tie it off short to the front loop or bow lifting ring, and tow it to the best spot, then lower.

What do you say? I know the lifting ring will support the entire boat, but I'm not sure about the bow loop on the underside.

Don't ask me how I'm going to get it from the pickup to the water - this thing is a monster.
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over kill bye a mile a couple of cynder blocks would have done the trick
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Originally posted by 79nautique 79nautique wrote:

over kill bye a mile a couple of cynder blocks would have done the trick


Would a couple of cinder blocks hold the boat against a strong wind? It sounds like he's using this as a mooring buoy.

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Really hate to see people dropping such heavy objects in the lake w/o any intentions of ever removing it. There are more environmentally friendly ways to do this.
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I'm told this is the way and the weight, locally. This will be a permanent mooring and there are winds at this lake.

I would have just used a couple of concrete blocks, until I inquired locally.

The block could always be removed, albeit with more effort than a few blocks.
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Originally posted by robesaw robesaw wrote:


Don't ask me how I'm going to get it from the pickup to the water - this thing is a monster.


A flat bottom (john) boat with a engine hoist clamped into it's hull. Back up the rear of the pickup into the water. A ramp would be perfect.

BYW, I too hate to see mooring buoys dropped in all over. Your lucky you're up in Canada. Evidently the rules are lax up there.


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Sharpie's will fade after 1 year. Go to a livestock supply store and get a pen they use for marking ear tags for livestock.
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Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:

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BYW, I too hate to see mooring buoys dropped in all over. Your lucky you're up in Canada. Evidently the rules are lax up there.


Thanks.

Actually, it's a strange lake. There are many docks but no one may tie up, even for the day. A friend ran a marina with rentals and a fuel dock for years, and recently sold the property. It was rezoned for residential as the developer cut a deal to remove the fuel dock. DFO wants the fuel docks off the lake. Call me crazy, but won't all those jerry cans spill a lot more fuel than one professionally run dock?

So anyway, people have no other option than mooring buoys. Yes, there are a lot more of them out this year, but there isn't a choice. Not a lot of day trippers at this lake.

The good news is that there won't be too many idiots renting anymore.
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put it on top of a truck inner tube and inflate, when you get out there cut a hole in the tube and let her sink(recover the tube, i wrote that because someone will remark about sinking the tube with it). who said tubes dont have a purpose
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Originally posted by eric lavine eric lavine wrote:

put it on top of a truck inner tube and inflate, when you get out there cut a hole in the tube and let her sink(recover the tube, i wrote that because someone will remark about sinking the tube with it). who said tubes dont have a purpose


Just don't tow it out there with your Correct Craft!

Great idea Eric.

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Originally posted by Hollywood Hollywood wrote:

Really hate to see people dropping such heavy objects in the lake w/o any intentions of ever removing it. There are more environmentally friendly ways to do this.


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I didn't know you were a tree hugger.

I make these weights that are about 30" in diameter and 3" thick with a single hook in the center. They weigh about 180lbs (that's 82 kilos Rob). They quickly sink into the bottom and will hold anything.

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I'm not a tree hugger but it pisses me off when I run over your old unmarked "mooring" anchor and ding my prop. This happened to me on Monday at GL this year when some *************** decided to pick up our drop ski and had to go in to their dock to get it back. Put me in a pretty foul mood.
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I stand corrected - I do have to remove the mooring buoy and chain for annual weed removal. Forgot that little detail...
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Hollywood, does this mean i have to stop peeing in the lake?
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Rob, Looks like you need to get one of these!!



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Holywood's point is a good one. Historically we've treated our lakes, streams and oceans like dumps and sewers. On the river we keep our boat there's so many abandoned mooring blocks and junk in some areas that fishing tackle and anchor snags are a real problem. New moorings have to be permitted and marked.
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