Water Ski Around the Boat

SkiNautique 200 wrote: Great trick, many people end up with only the 180, but the 360 isn't any more difficult with 1 or 2 people. 5+ is when it gets hairy. 1 man is haulin, while 5+ long man is doing everything to keep the line tight. The back roller for the first two guys is pretty nasty. My opinion on the atbs where guys go opposite directions, is that the first guys does and atb, while the other guy just hangs out and never really goes "around" the boat.. just merely whips and hangs, then cuts under the other guy.. but its a great parlor trick.. people really seem to dig it. but no matter what ATB's are usually the favorite act for most guys.

Aren't we the negative nelly

   I have to disagree with the 180/360 not being any more difficult. We see many teams doing the 180 ATB, which is not much more than a whip. The 360, which our team and driver pride ourselves on, takes more skier and driver skill. Driving the boat out of the trick, in the same direction as going in, makes the skier have to "pivot" to get back to the direction of the outgoing boat. The driver also has to "put on the brakes/bury the nose" to make that direction change.
   Now in regards to the opposite direction ATB Tick-Tock; both skiers go around the front of the boat, while going opposite directions. Doesn't that constitute an ATB in both directions? Two guys crossing the front of the boat, one clockwise, one counter-clockwise, at different instances, makes for on helluva parlor trick.

BTW, not much info your Bio. What team do you ski with?

I wonder...is it possible to do an ATB barefooting? Even if the footer slid on his a$$ for a little bit of that ride and it was only 180 instead of a 360, it would be pretty impressive.

My 20yr old nephew has donr this in our local show for the last 2,3 yrs it's pretty scrary in the rough water ..

I saw the Barefoot ATB in a tournament a couple years ago. It was much like a normal ATB with the footer getting the speed needed from the whip. Near the end of the whip, he set down in a butt glide and did a moving deep up. It was very cool, but of course he was not on his feet for the entire trick.
My favorite ATB's are the 7-man ( one was a girl ) ATB, or the 5-man bacerds ATB.

Tull- I agree with your post, yes if both skiers go in front of the boat, it would be legit. 85% of the time when you see the opposite direction atbs however, many teams take the easy way out and don't have both go all the around. I apologize for being vague. I realized that I discredited your original post. That wasn't my intention.

I too am a huge fan of the back atb, very tough to get a good driver, lately, I get 3/4 and lose line tension without a good driver. The 5 man is rediculous, but a few years ago, Jeff Shenk and Nick Meyer did a double back atb skiing for the Chain Skimmers. They were very fluid and made it look effortless. The nice touch was spinning it back to the front, 'not easy to do" and hitting the beach forwards.

While I'm being negative, the other highly scored atb that irks me is when guys are doing the "back" atb in the "funny" back postion, like they are riding a trick ski in the 180 "hip" turn postion and actually facing forwards but the ski is backwards. To me thats just bushleague and teams like Shawano (1st. in D2 last year) do it all the time and it scores big for them. So I guess if you can't beat em join em.

so my question is I guess it is Ok to speed up to 36mph and cut the wheel and stop the boat? if so I am going to try it tommorow I just did not want to hurt anything in the boat, or throw anybody out

SN 200, who do you ski with?

Maibud, have you ever heard that disclaimer; 'We are professionals, don't try this at home"? Although most of us are not professionals, this trick should not be taken lightly,

I have a tower could not try it if i wanted. besides I can't slalom ski all that well. I was really just wondering about cutting the wheel at 36mph

malibud wrote: I have a tower could not try it if i wanted. besides I can't slalom ski all that well. I was really just wondering about cutting the wheel at 36mph

The 360 is actually easier with the rope hooked up to a tower....you don't have to worry about the rope catching on the windshield. 36 is a pretty high boat speed. You need to get the skier out on a whip and if the boat is going 36 the skier will really be cooking.

here is a decent veiw of a 360:

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Ok, how do you embed video?

Tower works fine for a single atb, but it rocks the boat pretty good, we were making a full 3-man 360 with a nauqtique 206 team with a tower, but that was the max, and it was sketch because that boat cavitates anyway, so it was a challenge. A single is no problem, but check out my earlier post on the mini-hylon from Kw, thats the cats meow!

is it possible to do it in a wakeboard?

mdvalant wrote: until we bent over deeping up 3 guys.