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tommer12
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Posted: February-05-2004 at 2:20am |
Anyone ever replace this rope that runs in the rail around the boat? I have some damage on the port side and I need to pull the rope out to screw the rail back in.... can I get the rope at West Marine? Any tips?
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tryan
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pull the rope out and put it back in backwards. (ie the old back facing the front.)
the rail is part of the structure of the boat. although there is a thin layer of glass, the screws are what holds the deck to the hull. it's going to be nasty under there. fix the stripped out screw holes if you have any or if you move the screws. i would still n patch or caulk the old holes. i like the aluminum rub rail (which is not cheap.) |
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Riley
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Are screws better than rivets? I'd like to replace my rub rail and it has rivets. I've been told to rip everything out, glass over the old holes and drill new ones through the rub rail and deck. I would rather install SS screws then rivets, but do they loosen up?
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tommer12
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yeah, I see where it pulls out.. I was wondering if I should put new rope in. I'm hoping I can just caulk those holes where it pulled out of the fiberglass a little bit and screw it back in. The rail got caught on a houseboat when I wave came by... the bumper was off the side of the boat and it hooked under the house boat rail.... sucks.. but it's not too bad...
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79nautique
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tommer12 you may want to use some epoxy instead of the caulk. with caulk the screw won't take a bit in the fiberglass. I'm assuming the screw was riped out when it hit the houseboat and the hole is to large now for the old screw. You could go up a screw size and not have to do anything. If the rope is old and faded or damage then replacing it isn't a bad Idea but if it is in pretty good shape I would reuse it.
Riley If it was me I would replace the rivits with screw and not worry about it as long as they are tight you should be in good shape. If you are realy worryed about it coming lose use a machine screw and a nut and washer on the inside but you will need someone to help you tighten it. |
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Tribal150
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There is a product out by evercoat, it is called fibertech, and it is for fiberglass repairs only, sort of like body filler with tiny fiberglass hairs in it, we used this on my 76 to fill and reinforce the air scoop and exaust ports, it is a two part mix, it is very easy to work with, and is very strong. You can get it at any auto body supply store.
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tryan
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i would put the screws in from the inside and go find the house boat.
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tommer
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I went to their website and could not find the product called Fibertech.... I do agree with the epoxy to hold better than some general caulk.. especially for a rub rail....luckly, it's only about 3 screws that pulled... so the holes are minor... just need to patch and drill new screws back in..
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79nautique
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Sometimes you can go back with oversized screws and not have to worry about the epoxy. if you can remove one of the old ones and run down to the hardware store and get the next larger size screw and tighten it down it will save some time as you would have to wait on the epxoy to set up.
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Lakeview
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I used resin and glass powder,mixed up to peanut butter consistency.Remove about 4 or 5 screws on each side of the bad holes and just force the mix in with a small putty knife.This worked on my ' 85 SN and I had to do about 8 holes by my drivers seat.Good luck
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jon
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Does anyone out there know where I can buy that black rub rail? Mine is looking old and needs to be replaced.
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kenny g
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www.rubrails.com
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woodyelc
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call secc 407-851-1965 they have the orginal rail in stock.
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tommer12
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Ok, keep this open for the future.. anyone need tips on replacing the rope around your 2001 series nautique... come to me. I wll have to say, it was a real female dog... it was horrible. the rope looks great....
You need to find a tool that looks like a piece of celery.. narrow and u shaped. You have to lube up the rail with soap, (clear soap if you can) slid the tool into the rail (one person does this) lean it way back so you feed the rope into the u shaped tool and pull it along the rail. The u shaped tool will split the rub rail enough so the SECOND person can push the rope in. KEY things: - buy 10 feet more than you need, if not more. I pulled the old rope, went to West Marine, measure, bought 1 foot more and came up 3 feet short. Don't ask.. have no idea.... But when you are done, it looks great.. takes about 5 washes to get all the soap out the rail though.... I made my tool out of a piece of wood. Shaped it like a piece of celery (wood must be hard or it will crack from the pressure of the rail or the force you use to pull it apart.) I actually used a rubber mallet rapped in a rag so it out stain the rope as I pounded it in places. Questions, let me know.. but it's a long 2 person job. Why is it so tough? The rub rail is old and hard. It's tough to work with, but I am not replacing the whole rail is answer... Nautique put screws every 6 inches on that rail.... it's a lot of work to replace that also.... and if you have weak fiberglass underneath, you will want to patch it with some goo from West Marine... take care! tommer |
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