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newoldboat
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Posted: April-19-2009 at 5:14pm |
I am making decent progress on the stringer job on my SN. I cut the stringers out, sealed them, and epoxyed them into place in the boat. I have started glassing them in but I am still working on the glass today. The factory only used one layer of glass on the stringers and several layers to cover the foam. The mat I have seems to be thicker than the stuff CC used so I am probably going to do it the same way. I was thinking of using two layers of mat and one layer of cloth to caver the foam. Anyone have any suggestions? |
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dwcar
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Looks good NOB!!! What is your goal date of putting her in the water?
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gun-driver
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Looks good.
What weight mat and how many gallons of epoxy did you get. I'm getting ready to order my materials, but I'm not sure of how heavy of mat to go with. I also want to reinforce the hull between the secondary and the wall it doesn't seem to be as thick as in the bilge area. I'm not putting foam back in so I thought I'd put some extra glass in that area. |
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JoeinNY
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How much glass you use over the stringers isnt the issue as much as how much you use to attach them to the hull. If your boat only had one layer at the stringer to hull joint then it is different than any I have seen. I have counted a dozen or more at the joint, more towards the cradle area where the floor is flattest, the stingers shortest, and the engine load the greatest. I would make liberal use of some glass tape along the joints over your mat... at a minimum.
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newoldboat
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I hope to have this boat in the water by june. I know it sounds soon but I work on it literally every night and on weekends. I can't afford to have my seats built from scratch yet so we will be sitting on coolers and fat sacs just so we can get out this summer and ride. I am using 1 1/2 ounce heavy mat. I have already went through 6 yards of mat and two gallons of epoxy. I estimate by the time I am done I will use 5 or 6 gallons and 25-30 yards of mat. your job may not be as large though. thickening the resin to set the stringers in eats up alot of resin. Also the filler does not go very far. A $9 quart of filler made enough thickened resin to bond 3-4 feet of one side of the stringer. And you can kiss any bucket you mix it in goodbye.
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newoldboat
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U.S. composites sells mixing buckets and brushes by the dozen. This is the best way to go because you will need alot of buckets and brushes. I took to long to lay down a bucket made with medium hardener and had to throw the brush and bucket away. I also forgot my roller when I got out of the boat so it is now epoxyed to the hull. I was going to cut it back out but I may try to duplicate the CC workmanship and just leave it there and foam over it. What do you guys think?
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C-Bass
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It's a shame nobody around here has any opinions about whether to foam or not to foam...
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newoldboat
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If anyone is actually wondering I will be refoaming the boat with 2lb foam from us composites. I just ordered alot of materials from them and their pricing was great. Their products cost half as much as West systems products. I used some of the West products and they were good quality but not worth $100 for a gallon of resin.
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critter
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Sounds like you are almost there Joe.
Foam until it hurts... I know cause that is what I did. |
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JDiggs
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Looking good man. It's killing me seeing all you guys leave me in the dust on my progress. This was supposed to be my only project this winter. HA!
Did you put fiberglass on the sides of the stringer first and then fiberglassed the stringers to the hull? Also, what kind of quantity of epoxy did you use to get those 2 in? Thanks and keep it up bro. I hope to have mine in by June as well. I gotta catch up. |
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BuffaloBFN
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Are you only using mat? |
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newoldboat
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I used a filler to thicken the epoxy to a mayo texture and used it to set the stringers in. I glassed from the hull on one side of the stringer over the top and down to the hull on the other side. That was the first layer, now I am cutting the mat so it covers 4 inches on the hull and the same up the side of the stringer. I am doing two additional layers that way on both sides of each stringer. I hope this will be sufficient.
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newoldboat
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BuffaloBFN, I am only using mat on the stringers and I will use cloth on the last layer of the floor. Do you have another suggestion? I am open to criticism because this is my first time working with fiberglass.
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BuffaloBFN
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I think most here have used a combo of mat, cloth, and something tougher like biaxial. The biaxial is #1708 at US composites. It's a 17oz material that adds a lot of strength.
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bprahl
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Looking good man! When we put stringers,bulk heads,floors,transums in we use a mix of chop and byaxle Its hard to tell what type and weight of glass you used by the pics, but to me it looks like you used 1 1/2oz. which is not very strong at all.. A good type of glass would be what is called 1808 byaxle,which is stronger cause it it tighter woven..even stronger is 3610 byaxle woven..remember you want to use a 50-50 mat to resin ratio.thats by weight.. but looks good so far.. keep up the hard work
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