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MI-nick
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Posted: May-13-2009 at 3:42pm |
I am about to buy a new picnic table and starting to research the best finish/material options...i know there are some wood working experts on here so I was hoping for some opinions. The table will be out on our deck in the sun and elements all year long as we have no place to store indoors for the winter (maybe cover it with a tarp).
I think the best finish would be determined by the wood type. If the wood is pressure treated, I think it's best to let it dry a bit and then apply a quality deck stain. If it's untreated, maybe treat with CPES and then some type of varnish. Let me know what you think. thanks. |
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As far as I can tell, I'm not quite sure...
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Hollywood
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I want to answer with "your girlfriend" being the punch line but I can go so many different ways with it my head is starting to hurt.
I'm not sure I've seen anyone attempt to seal a wood picnic table. |
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Terp
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I "finished" a picnic table w/ a girlfriend once. Now that was a fun "woodworking" project!
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86BFN
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but did you get pictures....
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MI-nick
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really, this is a serious question...
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As far as I can tell, I'm not quite sure...
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bkhallpass
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I don't know if it is good or not. I used good old fashioned spar varnish on the redweed table I built a few weeks ago. I put on about 5 coats and it looks great. We'll see how it stands up to the 100 degree summers. BKH
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eric lavine
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I pressure watched a bunch of driftwood and then sprayed it with engine foaming oil, I have to say it looks nice
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8122pbrainard
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Nick,
Any clear finish will be high maintenance (just like some girls!!!). If it is just teated wood then it's not worth going to the trouble of using a clear. If you do, then Brian's idea of using a marine spar is the best. I'd used a solid color or if you want to see some wood grain a semi tranparent oil based deck stain. My pier up north is white cedar and the builder has been using Cabot deck stains for years. I refinished it 4 years ago with the same Cabot and it still looks great. It really takes the foot traffic. Ether way, if it is treated (unless it's #1 kiln dried AFTER theatment) then do let it dry out for several weeks. |
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eric lavine
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basically Pete, engine foaming oil, lol
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MI-nick
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pete,
is it OK to put the spar varnish on treated wood?? i thought the adhesion was not good due to the chemicals in the treatment?? how's this for high maintainance...she want's the seats to be "smooth" so she doesn't get snags in her bikin bottoms...have fun with that one guys... |
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BuffaloBFN
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If you want furniture, you don't want treated wood. Pressure treated is usually new growth pine these days, and you don't want to try to sand that to bikini fineness. Where is it coming from; do you have pics of what you want in mind?
I might consider a deck water sealer if you like the natural look or an oil stain if you want it darker. The bikini thing...sand to at least 400 grit and use a danish oil finish. That will have to be re-applied 2-3 times a year...or a towel works. You could also pee on it...seriously, it works. LOL |
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MI-nick
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she has one picked out and I don't know what type of wood it's made out of.
since it will be kept outdoors all the time I was thinking treated wood + quality deck stain is the best. i'll know more this weekend when we go check it out. |
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8122pbrainard
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Nick,
If treated and dry then a spar varnish or even a exterior poly (has UV filtering in it) will work but the woods just not worth going that route. Stick with a semi transparent deck stain/finish. If she's picked out some nice cedar or redwood then we can talk some more. |
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MI-nick
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pete, thats exactly what i'm thinking...thanks.
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MI-nick
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It came pre-finished and bikini approved. Spar varnish on the top and bench, stain on the cedar undercarrige...i like.
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jbear
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Yeah....nice table but we are really looking to see how the bikini is holding up to the finish on the seats. And no fair just tossing it on the bench...the only true test is a filled bikini.
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MI-nick
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john, here is a memorial day shot to hold you over...norhtern michigan.
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8122pbrainard
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Nick,
The table she picked out looks great. You lucked out with not having to finish it!! In a couple of years it will need maintenance with a couple more coats. Don't let it get bad enough that it needs to go to bare wood. Any sign of the wood being exposed is the indicator for varnish. Now we need the defrib for J Bear again. With all the pictures of the attractive women/girls lately, the EMS crew down by John must be keeping busy!! |
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MI-nick
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pete,
the table is made by moon valley here in clarkston, MI. it's really solid and well made. they make a 6', 7', and 8' (we got the 8'). they recommend a light sanding and coat of varnish each year. i plan to follow that procedure. |
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jbear
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Yikes...I take back all I've said about Michigan guys.
Thanks Pete.....we got the 911 guys right down the street. BTW....did you get the message about calling me? john |
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8122pbrainard
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Sorry John but I missed it. Did you post, email or did you call me and leave a message? You can email me direct with your phone #. pbrainard@wistool.com |
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Pete:
You got mail. john |
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My picnic table at the cottage looks great. What I use is a mixture of kielbasa oil, cheese extract, potato salad and a healthy spattering of beer and wine. It's a tough job to apply the mixture, but it is recommended that it is done often. We try to do it at least once a weekend, in the summer months. In the winter months, we work on the bar top at home.
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eric lavine
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if there is glaze around the openings...she"s in trouble
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eric lavine
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that one is a classic, how long will the pic last, im lmao...this early
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I got to hand to J-bear, he's got me so brainwashed with Brunstucky that a guy came into my shop and i asked him if he lived here in Brunstucky....he really got PO"d...I stopped and had to think why and it took me a while that we were in Brunswick
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Eric, you're crackin me up! LOL
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reminds of a girl that use to stop by, one night were watching her, she goes into my dining room with new carpet, pulls them down and sqauts...im screaming WTF!!!
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you guys are great.
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