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Tim D
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If you get a pc, get one with XP. Vista was rushed out to compete with Macs latest OS. You can go to Office Depot and see that XP cost more than Vista. A Mac will not get a virus because there is no viruses written to work. Bill Gates likes viruses, cause every anti virus that works with windows has to pay royalties to microsoft.
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pwningjr
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That's not entirely true- turns out that just like with most Windows malware, Mac OS (insert version here) is vulnerable to end-user stupidity (think pirated software p2p networks, install software, software turns out to be malware type of thing). However, because Macintosh OSes are based on *nix (or more specifically, BSD I believe) it is possible to keep one almost 100% secure, you just have to be smart about it- don't run with admin rights, don't install untrusted software etc. Fun fact of the day- the very first "virus" to reproduce itself on many computers was actually on Mackintoshes- because the floppy drive was controlled by software instead of hardware (Apple still hasn't seemed to have gotten the message), the virus wouldn't let the operating system eject the floppy until both the computer and the floppy had the malicious file... Several hand changes later you have several infected machines. P.S. I just couldn't help getting into an operating system discussion. It's too much fun. |
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Jay
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66Skylark
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Hi 91Nautique,
One of the guys in the TV studio here at work also works part-time at an Apple store. He's the one that told me that, at the time, my Mac with the version of iLife I had wouldn't take video via USB. The other issue we discovered was with the Sony camcorder I had, it transmited the video using MPEG2, which iLife did not support. My big complaints were that it wasn't a simple 'plug and play' process, like Apple’s Ads suggest. And, of course, the kid in the Apple store should have taken the time to explain things to his technologically challenged customer... My original post was meant to warn davidg to be sure, if he gets a Mac, to be sure it does what he wants it to do… I should have been clearer in my original post. Kyle |
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storm34
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davidg-
I have one semester left at Simpson College in Indianola, Iowa and had a pc for 3 of those years. I bought a MAC about half way through the first semester last year and I honestly think it made school work much easier! Only regret I have is that I bought it too early....they came out with a new one about 2 weeks after I bought mine! I would wait until he is registered at school and go in to the mac store and see how much of a discount he would get...I think I got about 150 bucks off plus free software! Tell him to be patient and good things will come!! |
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davidg
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Chris....Thanks for the advice on the Mac. What model Mac did you go with, and which one would you have gone with if you had it to do over again? My son only wants it for word processing, iTunes, and surfing the web primarily. No heavy duty video editing, etc.
I have now started to focus in in the iBook, and MacBook. I just don't want to spend money for a unit that will be too much for what he really needs. I did find a MacBook here in the Chicago area that may be too much for what he needs. What do you guys think of the specs on this one? It sounds like its got all the up-to-date goodies on it that the guys on this post have recommended. The guy wants $900 firm. It also includes the remaining three years of the four year warranty. Comes with: * Apple MacBook with 13.3" Display * MagSafe power adapter, AC wall plug, power cord and lithium-polymer battery * Software: Time Machine, Quick Look, iLife '09 (includes iTunes, iPhoto, iMovie, iDVD, iWeb, GarageBand) and more * Display cleaning cloth * Owner's manual * original box * Microsoft Office Home and Student Edition 2008 * Apple Care Protection Plan !!!!! Specs: # Intel Core2 Duo mobile processor With 1066MHz frontside bus, 3MB shared L2 cache and 2.0GHz processor speed. # 2GB DDR2 SoDIMM SDRAM For multitasking power, expandable to 4GB. # Slot-loading multiformat DVD±RW/CD-RW SuperDrive With double-layer support records up to 8.5GB of data or 4 hours of video using compatible DVD+R DL and DVD-R DL media. # 13.3" widescreen TFT-LCD display With 1280 x 800 resolution to bring your games and movies to life. # 160GB Serial ATA hard drive (5400 rpm) Provides plenty of storage space and fast read/write times. |
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pwningjr
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That sounds like a good notebook (I don't know if it's a good deal for an Apple), should be more than enough for what he needs- unless he really multitasks a lot (and I mean several resource-heavy programs at once, which it sounds like isn't going to happen) that thing shouldn't even break a sweat (If I'm allowed to use that cliche :-) ).
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Jay
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davidg
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Yeah, I am thinking this one is a bit high powered for what he needs. If I may use an analogy, why buy him a 2000 hp Ferrari, when he just needs a solid Chevy Impala to get him around town. I may actually buy him an iBook G3 or G4 to get him started, and then move up from there.
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M3Fan
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This sounds like a solid machine, plus the Applecare warranty is awesome (but only lasts 3 years past the date of original purchase). Why buy twice? I'd get the most horsepower you can afford right now. Plus with this one you're getting iLIfe 09 and Office 2008, 2GB RAM, nice big HD, etc.
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davidg
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Joel....I have been looking at so many machines that I am starting to drive myself (and my son) crazy. Trying to find a machine that meets his needs, has up to date technology, and isn't priced too high is a tough task and time consuming. (Did I mention that I throw nickels around as if they were man-hole covers:)? That one is more than I wanted to spend, but, maybe its worth it at the end of the day.
On that warranty, I went back and read the ad again, and it didn't say how much longer it had to go. The guy did say he bought an extended warranty, and that it is transferable. I will have to check on exactly how much time is left. Well, its time to go get the Southwind out of storage this morning, and start putting the old girl back together again. |
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tullfooter
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Chiming in late here, but this discussion is current around our house (3 Macs currently).
My son (waterskier2007) is a junior at U of M and has been using his Mac laptop (I couldn't even guess what model) without a hitch. He has been working with PC's at his summer job for the past 5 years. We had promised to replace his Jeep Wrangler, with 175,000 miles, if his grades were at a certain level. Well, he crushed the grades. But instead of a new car, he wants the new MacBook Pro, with some upgrades I can't even describe. (and no, he's not a geek) Looks like we're heading to the Apple store. BTW, I told him that I get the free Ipod touch. |
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davidg
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Steve;
I did call the Eastern Illinois U. bookstore. They had a similiar deal going on....buy a Mac and get an ipod for free (after rebate). We don't really need the iPods, but, sounds like a neat deal. I just went to pick up my boat, and was discussing computers with some folks at the farm where I stored it. They work in education. One person was a PC person, and the other indicated Mac (for all the reasons that have been discussed here). They definately said to go with the additional warranty. |
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waterskier2007
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The macbook that you mentioned sounds just like the one I use. The great thing about that one is that it has a 160 GB hard drive instead of the 120 that I have. As my dad mentioned I am upgrading because of a lack of hard drive space. The macbook is a great deal especially because it has microsoft office installed. which costs you 150 at the store. He should have a great time with that computer.
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waterskier2007
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and thanks dad, im not a geek
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davidg
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Guys....I appreciate all the help. We ended up buying my son the MacBook mentioned above for $900. It was fully loaded with software, and includes a warranty through next year.
The guy we bought it from showed us the reciept and it was a $1700 computer when new. So, more than I really wanted to spend, but, a pretty good value at the end of the day. Probably more horsepower than he'll need, but, its there if he does. |
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pwningjr
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Best of luck.
May your passwords be secure and your RAM unused. :-) |
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Jay
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phospher
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you should most certainly go with the mac. unix is far superior to windows in most every way. i work as an IT security engineer and think FreeBSD (which os x is built on) is the best. actually, this site should be running on a freebsd server. as mentioned earlier the linux option with ubuntu is a good idea too. while i know a lot about linux i am like os x on the desktop and FreeBSD for all servers, firewalls, routers, etc..
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pwningjr
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phospher- Hey, I should try installing freebsd!
A little geek humor never hurt anyone :-) EDIT: while I type this on slackware :-\ |
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Jay
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Have five kids who went to college. First two got PC's; last three got Macs. Macs way better. Definitely get the Macs.
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