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richardsoncd ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: April-27-2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 12 |
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I am looking at a Ski Tique and found out that the engine was replaced some years ago with a standard automobile engine (non-marinized), I am not sure how this will effect the boat over time, the owner said the main difference is that the engine rotates the opposite direction of a marinized engine, but the components that needed to be marinized, i.e. alternator, distributer, fuel pump, etc. could be put on at a reasonable price. Does anyone out there know anything about this or have any advice.
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Jim_In_Houston ![]() Platinum Member ![]() Joined: September-06-2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1120 |
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I would go find another boat to buy. There a lots of them out there. But that's just me.
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hyper1685 ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: September-08-2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 57 |
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Does the boat run. if it originally had rev. rotation, then the trans and prop are set up for rev. rotation. were these changed as well. changing an engine to rev. rotation involves completely tearing down the engine. i would look else where for a boat.
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swamp demon ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: March-15-2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 55 |
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What state are you from? just saw a nice ski tique in indiana auto rv magazine for under 4000.00
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jameski ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: May-18-2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 368 |
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It is very dangerous to run an automotive alternator, fuel pump, starter, and carburetor on a boat. Also, reversing the rotation to LH could cause problems if the boat was designed for RH rotation.
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kenny g ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: December-13-2003 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 318 |
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i changed the barracuda 318 chrysler to standerd left hand rotation.
marine engines use a hardend crank shaft.so do truck motors. just be sure the plate [oil pump]was flipped over in the tranny to run lh rotation.as far as handeling.i got no complaints. they use brass freeze outs in marine[salt water]engines.thats all i can think of other than the normal stuff,prop,carb,starter,fuel pump. jameski.what kind of problems should i look for since i changed my engine rotation ? i haven't noticed any yet ! |
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jameski ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: May-18-2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 368 |
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It definitely can be done as long as you know ALL of the differences. I don't know about the 318, but the automotive Fords also have the back of the crank knurled to sling the oil into the engine and reversing the rotation will sling oil past the seal (of course, this won't be a problem if you keep your LH crank turning LH). I've also heard of problems with a boat listing to starboard which can be counteracted by moving the helm to the port side. It may not be a big deal, depending on how you drive.
richardsoncd, if you get a real low price and you are up for the challenge, it can be done. Some of the components may have already been changed. As Ken said, the pump in the transmission should have been flipped, otherwise your transmission would have to run in reverse. ![]() |
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kenny g ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: December-13-2003 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 318 |
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jameski,you are absolutly correct.with lh rotation.engine torque is to starbord with the helm.but,with the wider beam of the barracuda hull you can't tell the difference.now with a smaller boat,like a tique and higher speed's..yep i'd say it would list or lean to starboard.thats why they used reverse rotation engines and installed the battery to port.
the main reason i went with lh rotation is "sandy" she always orders an extra big mac and say's BIGGIE SIZE THOSE FRIES ! ![]() |
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jimbo ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: September-07-2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 473 |
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Here's my 2 cents. I was under the impression counter rotation was used to prevent swaping of parts and engines from the automotive group. At some point, boat manufactures went to using standard rotation. Automotive engines can be converted to marine engines by amautures and there are serval books on how to do it (check out the boat building site www.glen-l.com ). Some of the changes are for safety, some are for durability, and some give better performance, some are illegal for street use. I'd be concerned if the transmission is working properly and what was done to make the boat go forawrd. It would be a considerable expense to rebuild ($1200?) or replace the tranny. Another concern is who did the engine swap? If a boat shop did, why didn't they do it right? If the owner and his buddies did it, they may have made other mistakes. If the boat runs and handles fine and it has all the power it should and you're getting a good price it might be worth it. Otherwise, I'd keep looking. If you do buy the boat, I'd do the conversion or have it done right away. I wouldn't worry about changing the rotation. That would be really expensive and you would have to change the tranny rotation again. That's my thoughts. Does anybody know if the owner could have got the boat to go forward simply by changing to a standard rotation prop? If you can, chances are nothing was done to the tranny and I'd assume a rebuild is in the future.
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kenny g ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: December-13-2003 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 318 |
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nothing needs to be done to the tranny other than change the pump rotation.it's in the velvet drive manual .
larger boats with twin screws have counter rotating engines ! if they both crank the same direction the only place you could go would be in circles. trust me.the borg warner people who build the velvet drive know what there doing. |
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richardsoncd ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: April-27-2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 12 |
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I have decided against buying the boat, thanks for the advice. I am now looking at an old Skier that has been restored. Does anyone have any advice on building a ski platform, does it have to be made of teak or can it be a single piece?
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richardsoncd ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: April-27-2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 12 |
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Do you happen to know the site? Thanks |
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