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    Posted: March-26-2010 at 11:38pm
Just bought 66 Barracuda SS--- How can I ID the 318 is it the 210HP or the 235HP
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Welcome to the site Doug.
And welcome to the 66 Barracuda SS owners club. I think it is just you,
Steve, and I so far.
I suspect that yours has the 318 M-Series Poly head motor.
You can use the Serial Number Plate to determine 318A , 318B or 318C.
You could have a L-Series if someone changed the motor out.

Here is a site that you can download the Operations Manual. I think that
it is also under the reference section on CCF


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Thanks-- I will check it out
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And the Moj'. His does have the 235 hp.
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This a picture of the valve cover and the ID plate from a "D" motor which is the 235HP variation of the Poly. I believe that the D motor had higher compression as well a modified camshaft.





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Frank,
My engine tag says the exact same thing, except of course the serial number is 96590 so a bit newer that yours. I don't know what the "Part Number" designation means, as mine is stamped part # 12-22-I.....

I've been looking to find a manual for this motor, as the one in the reference section doesn't apply to these poly's.. Perhaps Critter or 62' Wood can help us...

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It is in there - here is the link

http://www.correctcraftfan.com/Downloads/Chrysler%20Marine%20Engine%20Manual.pdf

It covers both the small block and big block motors. This manual is better than the later one for the LA motors. It does not have specific for the "D" motor. This is the best I could ever find.




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Originally posted by Mojo Mojo wrote:

Frank,
My engine tag says the exact same thing, except of course the serial number is 96590 so a bit newer that yours. I don't know what the "Part Number" designation means, as mine is stamped part # 12-22-I.....

I've been looking to find a manual for this motor, as the one in the reference section doesn't apply to these poly's.. Perhaps Critter or 62' Wood can help us...

Moj'


Have you seen this Chrysler website. I picked up a manual for mine here. They also have a forum that helps out as well.

Chrysler manuals


Another good Chrysler site with engine I.D. info
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Greg,
Searched high and low and nowhere have I found reference material on a Fury235 "D" model motor, including what you provided... The manual Frank copied does have the "Poly" engines reference, but not the 235 in any detail....

I don't know why the variation was made to get the 235 out of the 318, but I'm curious to know. I wonder how many were made with the high compression rating???

If anyone has any information on this "phantom" engine,and or a parts manual please let us know....

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I believe the crank and rods to be the same in all. Here is a picture of one of the pistons out of an original "D" motor.



Camshaft had the following numbers E7624M & 622U stamped on the end.

I have no idea how many where made. This engine came out of a Wildcat.

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Mine ended up being the L series--LM318BWR10173
I think it had 225hp. Did they all come out with a 4bbl carb?
Thanks for all the help.
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Chrysler made some good motors back in the 60's and 70's and at the time where leading the pack. Some of this carried over to their marine engines which they did themselves as compared to other manufactures who utilized a third party. Just look and how everything fits together and the unique cast parts.

The LA-318 is rated at 225HP and should have come with a four barrel card on a cast iron intake. I picked up a Holley Street Dominator intake which is a low plan/low torque for some minor performance increase but primarily to cut some weight. Here is a picture:



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add 1 more to the 66' cuda ss list critter! in the painfull process of restoring the interior and the trailer on mine now...
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Welcome Ryan... These things are moving around.
The one mentioned above by Raindog and Mojo now belongs to Reid.
He actually has put his in the water.
I stopped on mine with about 10 hours to finish. Not sure anymore
why I stopped. I should put at back on the carport and finish it.
So now it is Steve, Doug, Reid, me and you. Maybe we can get these
things together sometime soon.

Let us know if we can offer any info or just a source to bounce something off of.
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You guy's are forgetting Gary Blackburn and his SS. Glad I don't have one,there seems to be too many of them
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m318-210 hp under the cover of our SS!
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Do not know how I could have forgotten Gary and his Cuda SS.
Seeing his at GL 2 years ago is what swayed me into buying
mine..... Garys is one of the few that are in the water and being
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We've got one as well, only ours is a bit unusual as it was built with a 250 hp Interceptor.

Roger, I'd like to see how yours is coming along. Did you get all the wet sanding done? I'd like to see how you did your floor and stringers. We're hoping to start on our floor and stringers this summer.
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thanks for your welcome critter! we definately need to get these boats together sometime. i live in ohio but im looking forward to getting to a reunion within the next year or so... i should be done with her this spring. im itching to get her back in the water this summer! its been about ten years since it was last used... :( my dad bought it in 68' and gave it to me last year. i grew up behind this beast and now my three boys are at the age now to where they are ready to learn to ski!
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Morning Bruce,
I did get the sanding completed and it came out nice. I think that
I even have more sanding room if needed. I put the new interior in
and started wiring in the guage lights..... then covered everything
up and went to Alaska. And that is where it sits.
I have lots of pictures of the stringer and glass work. It was just
about what others here have experienced.
Send me an email from the Profile and I will send you the pictures
that I have.
I did leave the battery box and tool box under each front seat. Not
sure if that was really necessary.

Ryan, thanks for putting forth the effort to bring her back to life.
You and she will appreciate it. I would not care if there were 100s
of these Cuda SS, I just like the way they look and sit in the water...
speaking from seeing Garys in the water. I still have hopes of getting
mine in the water later this year.
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