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    Posted: October-29-2010 at 6:55pm
We've been experimenting with surfing a little this year using a friend's board and either people weight to list the boat or borrowed bags. We may try to go out again in a couple weeks and I wanted to try something. Here is the current set up for weight (typically for wakeboarding)

400# bag in ski locker in back
400# bag under rear seat
350# bag down in front bilge belly (basically right under the cooler)
250# bag on the floor between engine cover and cooler

Note: These all only fill to approximately 90% full.

A friend has 3 350# bags that we may try using next time out.

My thought is 2 of them in back next to the engine and one up in the bow all on the surf side. Thoughts?

This would definitely be a LOT of weight. We tried two of the bags before like I described and moved the 250# to the bow seating area on the surf side and the wave seemed pretty good. Just thought it might be interesting to experiment with just a bit more weight.
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I'm not a wakeboarding/surfing weighting expert, but dang, 2200lbs is a lot of weight! I've only surfed once, and it had 800lbs in the back surf-side corner, plus 4-5 people in the boat. Worked alright I suppose, I was able to ride it. It was behind a 21' Tige v-drive.
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i put 2 x 600 bags (1 over the other 1) on the surf side and 1 x 600 pn the back between doghouse and rear seat...Is not a huge wake but works fine for pulling me...
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If I recall you have a direct drive, open bow. Of the Sacs you have been using for wakeboarding, I woul only fill the 400 lb sac in the locker.
I would put one of your friends 350s in the bow on the side you want to surf, I would put one of your friends bags beside the engine, and put one either on top of your existing locker sac, or on that side and toward the back seat.

It's all about getting the boat on its side. I get a pretty good wake surf wake with 350 Bow, 400 on the side I'm surfing, 350 in the locker on top of the stock 300 in the locker.

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Yeah, open bow direct drive.

So you're saying not to have any of my other "standard" bags filled, just the one in the rear ski locker, then place his bags like you're saying? I wouldn't be able to stack the locker, but I can place one bag up over the rear seat some.

Maybe we'll go out a little early that day and play around with different configurations and take some pics.
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The rear locker was the only one I saw in your standard setup that gets the boat on its side. BKH
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Actually, the rear locker and the rear seat both are all the way across the back of the boat.

I'm going to try two things and see what works better.

1. Have all the normal wakeboarding bags full (Ski Locker, Rear Seat, Bilge Belly up front and Bag on Floor above bilge belly). Then fill all three of my friends bags. Two bags will go next to the engine and the third will go up in the bow. That puts 1050# all on the surf side, 600# up front in the center and about 700# in the rear across the whole width.

2. Drain the Ski Locker and Rear Seat bags, but leave everything else the same as above. I might even try putting all three bags next to the engine if it seems like I have too much front weight.

I'm interested to see how it goes. Here's a couple pictures with option 1 and two of the bags next to the engine.







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Here's some pictures from this weekend...

















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Looks like you improved the height and mass of the wake quite a bit. BKH
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Brian,

Thanks. If you look at the pictures there are four with just the two bags added next to the engine and four with the additional bag in the bow...all surf side. I definitely think the extra box weight helped.

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No kidding huh? Some of those pictures were taken with the camera resting on the sun deck (ski locker lid) and once you get going, that perspective is almost down to water level so it makes the wave look huge.
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What type of board are you using? BKH
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