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Mcrosby33
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Posted: May-05-2011 at 3:31pm |
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TRBenj
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I just noticed you were in MA. Where abouts?
I have to ask- why are you redoing the floor and foam? If you have any soft spots (between the engine box and battery box, where the front seats screw down) then youve got rot going on. Ive yet to see a boat with rot in the floor that had not spread to the stringers. I would anticipate replacing everything while youre in there, if I were you. Also, if youre planning on leaving the foam out when you rebuild, you'll need to replace the structural support that it gave to the hull-floor structure. The most common way to achieve this is to add horizontal ribs between the stringers and hull walls. Theres a lot of info here discussing foam vs. no foam and other aspects of full structural rebuilds. I would encourage you to search the site and do a lot of reading before going much further. |
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Mcrosby33
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Southwick Ma. I live about 10 minutes from the Congamond Lakes but my family has a summer home on Otis Resevoir in East Otis Mass which is where we keep and use the Nautique.
It wasnt soft spots that made me want to undertake this project. Where the carpeting on the floor met the carpeting on the side of the boat it was starting to sag and the top fiberglass layer of the floor had cracked along the side of the boat creating a wobble in the floor. Also the carpeting in general was just in poor shape. Surprisingly when i took the entire floor up, the only wood rot that I came across was a small piece between the ski pilon and the battery box. As for Foam vs. No foam, yes I have most definetly been looking into that. It seems as if each one has there pros and cons. A LOT of info out there. Just cant wait to get home and get to work. |
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TRBenj
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I work about 20 min from Congamond. A buddy of mine grew up on Otis. Small world.
The reason the only soft spots will occur between the front of the motorbox and the back of the battery box is because thats the only part of the floor that has wood in it. The rest is glass directly over the foam- so it wont get soft, even if theres water underneath. I would inspect the stringers very carefully before buttoning it back up... it would be a shame to tear it apart twice. |
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As he decribed it sounds like the floor has seperated from the wall.
Not good. |
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8122pbrainard
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Matt, I agree! Keep digging and investigating. |
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Mcrosby33
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Regardless of whether I choose foam or no foam, when it comes to replacing the floor should I just use marine plywood? My local boat shop said that would do fine, and if I want I can even do a layer of fiberglass on top of that, just dont do any on the under side so it can breathe.
As for inspecting the stringers, I will be sure to do that as soon as I get back home. |
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TRBenj
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Since there is a TON of info on this site, buried deep within other peoples rebuilds, which may or may not get repeated in this thread, Ill reiterate:
No on the marine ply- its 4x the cost of regular exterior ply and is unnecessary for this application. Both marine and exterior grade use waterproof glue. Going back with a ply floor is fine. Glassing only the top may or may not be ok (I would glass both, personally), but not because "you want the underside to breathe". Do not walk, RUN from whoever is giving that advice. You will want to CPES and coat the ply with resin. regardless of how much glass you put on it. I would be very surprised if you cant find some degree of rot in the stringers. That has not been the case in any of the CC's I have torn into up to this point. |
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mglines
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Mcrosby,
How did you get the carpet out and what did you do to clean up the floor after you pulld it out? |
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Mcrosby33
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I just pulled the Carpet up, and I removed the floor completely, I had no use in trying to clean it up.
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8122pbrainard
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I totally agree to get away from whoever told you the bottom side of the ply needed to breath. Please tell us, is the the local boat shop who is giving you that advice.
Yes, reading through some of the stringer job threads will give you the best advice. BTW, that boat shop must have lots of marine ply they need to get rid of!! Did they even bother to tell you the difference between it and exterior? If not, it's the inner ply voids. Since marine is always structural, only very small gaps between the inner veneers are allowed and also tightly controlled knots and dutchman's. |
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If you foam then the floor is not going to breath.
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