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Pauly-Banana ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December-06-2008 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 273 |
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Hello CCF,
Checking to see what type and brand of oil people prefer in their Python 502's! On the oil cap it says 5/30. Ive heard many stories on what to use. We were told to use 20/50 racing by Correct Craft. Seems to do well with that, but could the engine run more efficiently with the 5/30 Valvoline Max Life? Thanks-Pauly |
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Luchog ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: April-17-2007 Location: Argentina Status: Offline Points: 2135 |
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Someone will correct me but I have heard numerous stories about big block engines consuming oil, I think you want to stay with the 20/50 on this one as a heavier oil might help this issue.
Again, this is not first hand experience with your engine, just a tought on it. |
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Gary S ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: November-30-2006 Location: Illinois Status: Offline Points: 14096 |
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I'm no expert by any means but I do drive one at work.I'll check tommorow but I think that 5/30 thing on the cap was put there by GM.I also think that weight is used for gas milage. I also can go thru 1qt in as little as 250 miles and all 3 in our department are the same.
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horkn ![]() Platinum Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September-10-2007 Location: Cedarburg, Wi Status: Offline Points: 1511 |
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Is this a roller cam? If so your oil choices open up quite a bit.
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skierox ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November-07-2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 293 |
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I do remember them telling us that the cap was just put on by GM. Silver Spray offered the advice to use the 20/50 Valvoline Racing oil. We are curious if the 5/30 would run more efficient or could be a future problem. A good mechanic, felt that the engine might start better and have a little better top end.
Keeping in mind that there was NO manual for the python engine offered by my dealer. Not sure if anyone has ever seen or gotten their hands on one! |
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GottaSki ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() Joined: April-21-2005 Location: NE CT Status: Offline Points: 3365 |
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I think you know what to run, and just wanted to do some 502 smack talk
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skierox ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November-07-2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 293 |
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Your right, the 502 is great discussion. I am finally looking at adding some more air flow to the engine, which should produce a more efficient running engine.
Kind of looking at ideas with the high gas prices. The 502's require the expensive stuff! |
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Fl Inboards ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: January-20-2008 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2140 |
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I have had 2 Pyhton equipped SN's and loved both of them. I always ran a synthetic blend or When I found out about Royal purple I startd running that. I currently have a Python that was converted over to carburation and we run 15W-40 Royal purple. A 502 will generally use about a qt every 10-15 hours in a marine application.
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skierox ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November-07-2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 293 |
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Would you say that the 20/50 Valvoline Racing is ok to stick with or make a change. I have never had any issues. I have never heard of Royal purple. Where is it sold? Is there an advantage to carb vs. fuel injection.
Thanks for all the discussion! |
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boat dr ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: June-27-2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 4245 |
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Jody, sounds like someone else buys your oil.
RP brings a new meaning to "snake oil" I have a hard time with any oil that is not covered under a warranty, if you have a failure with a Mercury product , you have no coverage.This tells me all I need to know about RP.........Boat dr |
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Fl Inboards ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: January-20-2008 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2140 |
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Yea that should work well, if you have not any issues keep using what ya know. I get Royal Purple at O'rileys the stuff is not cheap. finding the 15w-40 can be a challange. I currently run the Royal purple in my 2011 6 liter. Having looked into manufacturers recomendations about oil products (Indmar and PCM) they really dont care what oil product you use just as long as it has all the correct additives and is the recomended weight for the application. Indmar has Penzoil stickers all over their products but if I owned one I would not use the Penzoil products. Royal Purple has a pretty informative web site www.royalpurple.com. |
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Riley ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: January-19-2004 Location: Portland, ME Status: Offline Points: 7963 |
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Penoil must have done something for someone at Indmar. I run Amsoil 15-40 in our Indmar. Indmar says they don't care if you use synthetic as long as it is the right weight and grade, and you don't extend the oil life.
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horkn ![]() Platinum Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September-10-2007 Location: Cedarburg, Wi Status: Offline Points: 1511 |
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So where is the info about merc not covering warranties when rp is used? Last I checked, rp met all the oil specs that were needed. Call me skeptical, but I have yet to see or hear about any bad words about rp, other than that it is pricey. Also, I see a lot of python failures for the small amount of python equipped boats. If they use that much oil, it's no wonder they fail a lot.
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78 martinique- refloored, reinforced, stringers re glassed, re engineered interior
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Gary S ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: November-30-2006 Location: Illinois Status: Offline Points: 14096 |
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Well I checked at work and mine says 5-30 too,so that must be a GM thing.I have run it so low on oil you could not see it on the dip stick,since we don't normally check our own oil,and it sometimes for no reason goes thru more oil than usual.
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Fl Inboards ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: January-20-2008 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2140 |
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Back during the Ski Fly day's Scott Ellis had a python equipped SN for nearly 4 years the motor ran like a clock, he went out every day and toped off the oil and did a complete oil change every 30-50 hours, dont remember what oil he used but the motor ran with out any problems until he turned back in to CC and got his new boat. When the Python came back it had over 1200 hours on it. I think the boat is running somewhere in Canada now. The biggest reason I run the RP in my performance stuff is from the great feed back from other users, car and boat racers alike. I have found seat of the pants performance gains by using the product. I have reported back to the engineers at Nautiques about how fast and how well my 200 runs as it will clock out over 50mph. Do I attribute it to the RP? in my mind it did! |
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Hobby Boats can be expensive when the hobbyist is limited on their own skill and expertise.
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skierox ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November-07-2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 293 |
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Great story about Ellis! I know that more 502's were put into V-drives, but have always wondered how many 502's were placed into closed bow 196's. I was always told that not many. Anyone have any ideas about totals?
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LongLakeWI ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: February-16-2017 Location: Wisconsin Status: Offline Points: 47 |
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Jody-Is the 15-40 Royal Purple you used the Diesel formulated oil? Or is there another 15w-40 they make?
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mrhemi ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: September-02-2009 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 30 |
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You realize this is an 11 year old thread?
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You know you are getting to be vintage when someone says "Back in the day..." and you can dispute their facts.
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LongLakeWI ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: February-16-2017 Location: Wisconsin Status: Offline Points: 47 |
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You realize you just replied to an 11 year old thread?!?
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KENO ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() Joined: June-06-2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 11180 |
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I can't decide if I'm replying to an 11 year old thread or a 1 day old thread.
I do realize that Jody is 11 years older than he was back then and he's still around on here (logged in a couple of weeks ago) and some other websites too. I also realize that you might be looking for an answer from Jody, so I won't say that it's diesel oil ![]() I also realize that this could be the start of another oil discussion
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