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    Posted: September-03-2005 at 6:38am
Problem solving 101...Just interested in what others think and what you might come up with!!!
Problem solving test! Nautique guy's will love the punch line!

How would you solve this issue? In reality it has been solved ...however I am wondering what the rest of you who wish to contribute would have done it!

Problem....beached inboard.
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1)inboard boat...Mc prostar(1984)
2)wieght=2800 lbs & full tank of gas
3)Boat was on sand bar...20 feet from where it entered.( too fast , too dark out)
4)other side of bar is about 20 feet to water...but is very shallow for about 200 yards.
5)the entry point where the boat traveled from ...is the deepest water around the bar...10 feet from the the bar is waist high and @ 20 feet out is over my head!
6)sand is semi soft with clay about a foot under it.

And just to be difficult...the Army corp. of enginers say's no digging...indian burial grounds (not that it would have stopped me)

There are three marina's on the lake....two were clueless...one said we can do it in two weeks at a painfull price...I knew I had to go it alone!

my oldest son suggested digging out under the hull and placing his body under the boat with feet sticking out...call 911 for an air lift...hint..we did not do that!

A famous 1972 nuatique once owned by Fred Krueger Senior (father of freddy...world champ jumper!)Was involved in the rescue!!!That boat is now owned by Brian Whitfield...and is one killer ride!(gotta get him to get that boat on the site)

So...lets have fun here and see if anyone figures out how we did it!

Boat...is fine now and suffered only minimal damage!(prop and minor gel work)

Jeff...you pathetic bast__d you may not comment...because you were there...however you may poke fun of me a will!!! As for the rest of you guy's...don't bash me to hard for owning a MC...I have always liked the stars and stipes MC's and mine has been a great running boat! Other than just that one ...iT"s all CC!and always will be!!!

How would you do it!!!! Have fun!

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Sorry 'bout this Stang but I would get two things from my wife/#1 driver/helper; matches and my insurance agents phone number. That is, if I was even crazy enough to be owning a mc.....jbear
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Lighten the load....siphone out the fuel, remove the seats and anything else you can. Then put inflatable under the swim platform...then float it out.
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an MC, I say just get your equipment, jump in
Mr. Whitfield's boat, and leave it :>).

Seriously, I don't think the boat can
be moved forward. DavidF has the right idea.
However, I suspect the tracking fins were
buried in there pretty good, and so I suspect
you needed the nautique to pull it back
rather than just floating away.

Incidentally, you've got to be very careful
pulling a boat out with another. Friend was
doing this two weeks ago, rope snapped and took over 20 stitches to put his wrist back
together.

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Backhallpass...True can't go forward!We had to go out the way it went in. Fins where dug into clay...the prop spun though 20 feet of sand/dirt until we came to rest and I turned the engine off! My wife sitting next to me was wearing our cooler ...ice, drinks and all...I think she was sort of pissed! Good point about the towing staps...a break could kill! We did bring down some very hravy staps (50 & 100 footers)

David F...you are thinking along the right lines!Keep in mind though the boat was dry locked and needed to move 20 feet before finding water!We kicked around inflatalbes a bit! Hint...Yes it would need something to help assist it in movement!The sand/dirt was soft and resistant...the boat was sunk in a bit.

We could have hooked up to a couple big boats and pulled it off( maybe)..and could have pulled the transom out! No way!

Hint...We removed the prop and dug a trench to the water to make room for the shaft and fins to pass...we needed something to help in move freely...think like an Egyption!

How do you think we got it to the water? Without damaging it!
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I'm trying to think like an Egyption but every time I do I get hungry and thirsty. So, you either wrapped it up like a mummy or aliens from a UFO floated it with anti-gravity just like they did when they built the pyramids. Am I right?

I know what you did, you sold it to some Palestinians and after they got it off the sand bar you took it back. Pretty clever. I would have never thought of that.
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Jim your brilliant! I should have picked your brain first...now thats scarey thought as well as a life changing event (Jims brain could be dangerous)!Best leave it alone...Keep guessing!
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leave the POS Master Crap where it is beached as a reminder that there is a sand bar at that spot. Know the lake you navigate before you go hap hazard with disregard for the body of water your on.


it doesn't suprise me with the people involved or who wihtnessed it, try a few less beers next time because if you were sober you are a couple of dumb      's
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79...thats a bit harsh...my wife and I were the only ones involved and the only ones who were there when the craft was beached...others who helped are good folks! I may have been a dumb --s but wife was not!!!

I agree ...know the lake...and that's a hard way to learn a lession. Too many beers was not hte reason...only bad judgement!

Only a dumb --s would make judgements about people you don't know!

Btw...no we did not leave it! Got any other ideas?

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May only he who has boated for 1000's of hours without an embarrassing incident, post the first unnecessarily judgemental comment. Come on '79, I know you don't fit that bill, do you?

Stang, I commend you for having the honesty to admit and share your mistakes. I've logged nearly a gazillion hours over the past 30 years, inland and all thru the Bahamas and FLA Keys, and I could write an epict on my many miscues. I've tried to learn from each.

So, did you use water noodles to roll her back on?
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Reidp...That thought process gets things closer! We did think of that!
Getting something under the boat...we did do that!
Hint...lumber was used and a couple bottles of Dawn dish soap!

79...marking the channel with the boat...not a bad idea, however first one would want to get it off and onto a trailer to pull a great runninng 351 and tranny...then tow it back out to the bar!

Heading to Mark Twain lake today ( will buy a map)...share the rest tomorrow!
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There are two types of people. Those who have made the mistake and those who haven't made it YET. Hey Stang, does the water table flux any? Some places we been before you could've had one of those beers to which 79 was refering, turn on the radio and water for the water to rise.
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OK, I'll say that you wedged some 2x4s/4x4s under the chines, soaped them up, and pushed her out. Used a long 2x4 as a lever to lift each side to get the clearance for the fins and propshaft before putting the wood "runners" under it?
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Originally posted by mrese mrese wrote:

There are two types of people. Those who have made the mistake and those who haven't made it YET.


Actually there are 3 kinds of boaters(sailors) those who have run aground, those who will run aground and the ones who lie about it.
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Mrese...Good ole Army corp. of eng. dropped the lake 6 inches over night...6 inchs yhe other way would have made it easier!

Bob's2001...I now am one who has run aground...no point to lie about it...unless I did it again!

Bill336...DAMN STRIEGHT MAN !!! You got it!

We used 4 eight ft. sections of 4x4 with with eight foot sections of 2x10 nailed to the bottom(so we would not sink in).
We got the one side up and washed it with water using a weed sprayer pump(to remove sand and avoid further scratching).Got a rail under it and soaped it down...did them same to the other side...took the other two rails and moved them in front of the first two...soaped them well!
Then we TRIED to push it off....well thats where the 72 Nautique came in...hooked the towing straps and watched that sucker pull!!!
The boat easily slid to the next set of rails...repeated the process until with one last mighty pull it found water!!!

So it goes something like this...

Lumber...      $50.00
doughnuts      $12.00
coffee...      $6.00
gas...        $30.00
Dish soap      $10.00
6 good buddies $free(until they need something)

What's the punch line????

NUATIQUE PULLING MASTERCRAFT OFF BAR   ________?

Ya all know this one!

Happy boating all!!!!


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Find another MasterCraft and attach a 100 foot thick nylon rope on the back, attach it to the beached boat as well. (use only nylon because it has great rubber band stretching qualities).
Pull in any direction using full throttle.

Stand back, drink beer, and enjoy the show!!!!
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Skyhawkflyer...that's how we gotta it up there!
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Too funny!!!
I saw 2 Donzies doing exactly that about 5 years ago. I almost wet my pants when the one was slingshoted into the other and the hulls made a loud clacking noise as they hit. Of course there was lots of adult language being used, and it was probably helpful that both the drivers were somewhat intoxicated as well. They both resumed drinking beer after they determined that there was not enough damage done that would cause either boat to sink. I maintained my distance from either!!!
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What a riot! You see it all on the lake! Because no one is required to have a license to drive a boat or any educational background...any idiot can be on the lake!

I think the the ramps provide the finest intertainment on the lake.I once saw a man trying to back his boat in...he was all over the place and his wife was directing as well as telling him how stupid he was...(he had the wench strap disconnected) got pissed and hit the breaks hard and the 20' I/0 came off the trailor! A good verbal exchange took place between the two (or should I say ... a Not so good exchange)


Keep keeping your distance!!!
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Some of my most cherished memories have been seen at the boat ramp!!!! I swear, if you get bored, go sit down and watch things going on at the boat ramp. Lots of kind words exchanged between adults!!!!!!!!
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I had a winch rope break about 50' from the launch with a roller trailer and a 17 Sea Ray. The boat ended up resting on the outdrive at a 45 degree angle off the back of the trailer. I retied the bow hook, and we had 7 or 8 guys lifting at the transom and it wouldn't budge.

This happened about 12 or 13 years ago. Not to hijack the thread, but what would you do in this situation?
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Borrow the marina fork lift and a chain or lift strap to lift the rear, ease it back onto the trailer... ??

Have those 7-8 guys sit in the bow to lever the outdrive off the pavement, then carefully back the rig until the boat is in the water?
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No marina at the lake, but we did consider getting a tow truck to lift the stern. That is until someone mentioned the "Have those 7-8 guys sit in the bow to lever the outdrive off the pavement" (in this case gravel) method. Once it got level, a couple others pushed from the back and I was able to winch it up and put on the safety chain. Worked like a charm and there was no damage to the boat.
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I was thinking tow truck...or more man power!
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Cool. You never know when a creative solution will come in handy...
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The punch line part!Whats the punch line?

"Nuatique pulling Mastercraft off sand bar"(review the thread)

     ___________?
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