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    Posted: January-16-2013 at 7:20pm
Customer brought in his newest aquisition so we can cut holes and put a nautique FCT3 tower on it.

The second of two Malivettes the family owns. You can guess what water sport they like to do.

Confirmed 57mph on Gps. It looks new and still sports the original Vette goodyear tires.



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That back in the 'Footin boat' section of your shop?

FCT3 on a BU? Couldn't they get a swoop tower or whatever BU makes?

PS - the BU makes that 200ski in the background look even better.
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What is the wake like at 70 feet? I have never heard of it being any good. The only reason to have a fast barefoot boat is for wake slalom so fast is only good if there is a nice wake to cross.

Is that the same hull as a Sportster? Those have nice footin wakes.
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I think it might be a sportster since its so fast. My buddies 02 lxi runs 50.4 GPS it's had a 3 Angle valve job and some shaved off the face to bump compression.

Chris, that 200 sure looks sweet ;).
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Hollywood Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January-16-2013 at 9:36pm
Lets see the tower on the wolf pack boat there and the folding tongue. Or I'll just see it myself Saturday.
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I'll gladly show you Saturday haha. We just installed the skinny center section on that FTC sitting on wolf pack. Mark is thinking about maybe using the new tower Roswell hasn't released yet. It mounts like a fct3 or 5.
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Curious to see what the Corvette looks like with the tower mounted on it as well.
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Why would they put a Nautique tower on a classic BU? Does it have the Calloway (sp) engine?

Chris, that 200 looks like it was desgined by the same guy that designed the BU, LOL. Other than graphics and tail lights, it's hard to tell them apart.
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We may be changing their mind about that FCT3 on the Bu. We are going to have to take out a ton of metal from the center section to make it fit properly. It will probably end up looking goofy.

I would assume it's the Calloway motor Riley. It has the Big throttle body deal on the top of a single plane intake. It also has Hi Po manifolds with a iron lower section and stainless risers. It clearly makes some power to run that fast.
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I think all of those Vettes came with the Calloway 383 originally... though I think they were somewhat problematic? The one on our lake (same red as the one above) hauls, but has been in the shop on a semi-annual basis it seems. I believe the original Calloway was swapped out pretty early on- not sure what it has for a powerplant now.

Someone correct me if Im wrong, but wasnt that boat based on the Response? Not sure if the Response and Sportster shared hulls in the mid-late 90's. Both seem to be pretty fast hulls.
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I believe the Vette was based on the Echelon, which was their flagship boat before the Response. I think the 1st year or 2, the Response had the same hull as the Echelon which was the same as the Sportster, but later had improvements that made it better for slalom, but not as good for barefooting.
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Tim, I figured with that type of speed the thing had to be a 383.
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From some quick searches on the WWW....
Tim is correct on the Callaway 383 Suoernatural. It was built by Callaway and marinized by Indmar. It was based on the 350ci LT1 engine which was iron block and aluminum head. The LT1 engine was designed to be reverse cooled from heads to the block. The inherent cooler temps from the aluminum head as well as the reverse cooling allowed compression ratios to increase.

Indmar rebadged the base LT1 into the Hammerhead and maybe a couple others (Monsoon or Scorpion???). The early LT1 based engines did have some issues. I've heard it was different expansion rates of the heads/block or maybe it was the reverse cooling or a combination of both????? Who knows.

I'm pretty sure any early issues with the LT1 based engines has been fixed.







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A number of my buddies with MC's on our lake have early LT1's ('93-96) that have not had any major issues. I think the 383 Calloway motors were a different story.
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There was a guy on MalibuCrew, Galaxytoad, a few years ago that had a Sportster with a Calloway Supernatural and he had a lot of problems with it and ended up rebuilding the engine. He claimed he got 60 mph out of his Sporster with 4 people sitting in the back seat after the rebuild.

Malibu's 1st Hammerhead was a 5.7 with aluminum heads. According to members on TMC they started having problems supposedly after Indmar had to switch to a new head source. Indmar then came out with the new Hammerhead which was based on the 383 and was 400 hp and eventually 425 hp. I remember people posting that those engines were using oil, but I they ran well.

The Monsoon was a 5.7 with efi and was their flagship motor for a long time. It might still be. I believe those were a crate GM motor with Indmar efi.

Indmar did some cool stuff with engines like the Hammerheads and they also had a Corvette engine. It was a $5k upgrade when we got our Sportster and weighed 200 lbs less than a 5.7. Someone told me they were prone to burning valves if you ran them hard, which I found surprising seeing it was a late model hi tech Corvette engine. I would have thought they were meant to be run hard.
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That boat does have an electric circulating pump im sure for the reverse cooling.
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You could be correct Tim about the Callaway being an issue but I know I've heard of issues with some early aluminum head/iron block engines. I just don't remember for sure what they were.
I have a buddy who has had several Barefoot BU's with the Hammerhead. He always traded up every two years. I keep thinking his first Hammerhead was 377ci. and the next one went to 383 and I believe his latest one is a 388. I skied behind three of them and all three were very fast. He never had problems that I'm aware of but he didn't put more than a couple hundred hours on each one either. He said he knew of others that did have problems though.

Riley, I know a Sportster with a Monsoon engine is pretty friggin' fast. I think my dream boat would be a Sportster with a Hammerhead. I know my buddy with the Barefooter Response LXI and a Hammerhead does well over 50. The LXI tips the scales at almost 2900 lbs. I gotta believe a much lighter weight Sportster with that same Hammerhead would be a rocket. It would not surprise me at all to hear somebody doing 60+ with a Sportster.
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Eddie, A few years ago peter@smoothwatersports, a malibu dealer ordered a solid red Sportster with a 400 hp Hammerhead. It was a great looking boat. There are pictures of it burried somewhere in TMC. He said it was fast, but not as fast as he'd hope it was. I don't think he posted the top mph though.

Ours has the stock 310 hp carb engine and I can pull my son long line without getting near the secondaries. The OB has a different hull than the CB version and might be a little faster/quicker. Ours goes about 50 and really starts planting the bow in the high 40's. My son would like to do an engine job on ours like you did on yours.
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Finished the install yesterday. Some custom welding and paint work later it turned out looking pretty dang good. It's a little tall IMHO but I prefer the 2 point mount towers as opposed to 4 point. Satin black goes with the boat well.

Pulling it down today to have the cover modified.

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