New owner here - 1984 Ski Nautique 454 |
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Hollywood ![]() Moderator Group ![]() ![]() Joined: February-04-2004 Location: Twin Lakes, WI Status: Offline Points: 13521 |
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What it comes down to is that the hull was designed for going up to 36mph in a straight line over generally calm water.
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Mojo ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: December-06-2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3110 |
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55 mph, motor spinning the wrong way, over powered hull, rough water........... Yep "Super Beast" sounds about right.... ![]() ![]() |
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05' SV211 TE
73' Martinique had:96' SNOB had:76' Nautique had 77 Tique |
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Crmaverick ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: July-06-2019 Location: Central MA Status: Offline Points: 190 |
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How calm of water are we talking, does it have to be glass? lol
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TRBenj ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: June-29-2005 Location: NWCT Status: Offline Points: 21198 |
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The danger is when the front of the boat gets low in the water and the sharp chine grabs steering control away from the rudder. Boat wakes are going to be a much bigger danger than wind chop. Especially wakes traveling away from you, at anything other than a perpendicular angle. Slowing down as you enter them will exacerbate the issue. This can happen at relatively sane speeds on a flat bottom ski boat, especially one with strong leaning tendencies (such as a LH Prop 2001).
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Crmaverick ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: July-06-2019 Location: Central MA Status: Offline Points: 190 |
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I've always said "when in doubt, throttle out"
Might really be the best thing to do in this boat to keep the nose higher though if you need to act fast |
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MrMcD ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: January-28-2014 Location: Folsom, CA Status: Offline Points: 3778 |
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I have heard as mentioned from trusted friends that this happens in the 2001 hull design.
I never experienced anything like this in the 1978 I owned or the 1995 NWZ hull. Am I wrong, can this happen in other Correct Craft hulls? |
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TRBenj ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: June-29-2005 Location: NWCT Status: Offline Points: 21198 |
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Can happen to any of them. 2gen SN’s and earlier run pretty bow high to begin with so you have a little more margin before you get into trouble but same rules apply. Can’t say I’ve seen or heard of a NWZ or newer getting into trouble but I’m sure it’s possible. The chine angles may be slightly shallower which would help, but they are also larger boats that will take quite a bit more power to push into the mid 50’s... and I don’t recall anyone having done that yet.
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KENO ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() Joined: June-06-2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 11191 |
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I see the "usual suspects" have shown up after all ![]() |
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Crmaverick ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: July-06-2019 Location: Central MA Status: Offline Points: 190 |
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So I was looking at the PCM chart, was the PLN a 390 HP motor or 425 HP? The PCM book is showing 390. My motor is a PLN, which actually also indicates salt water setup according to this. See link attached for PCM decoding charts.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Rlm2DwfFtzUZ_RO2MaksQ3WIDrRFplyv/view?usp=drivesdk https://drive.google.com/file/d/19zhbo_i_2WaeRmNUTV2VYYwIE_Fj1Pej/view?usp=drivesdk |
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TRBenj ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: June-29-2005 Location: NWCT Status: Offline Points: 21198 |
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The manuals with the charts are also in the reference section here.
PXLN would indicate closed cooling and since you have a PLN and lack the normal stuff that comes with a closed system, at least that part seems original-ish. I’ve never seen 425hp referenced anywhere but on this site, 390 is what all the manuals state. Since the auto/crate version (LS6) that used the same 990/088 rectangle heads was rated at 425hp and had a bit more compression (10-10.5:1 vs 8.6:1), I suspect the 390hp might be closer to reality. The roller cam, depending on the specs, might offset the CR difference though. Wish we had some info on that piece. |
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Crmaverick ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: July-06-2019 Location: Central MA Status: Offline Points: 190 |
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Cool makes sense, do you see any other things that don’t look original to the boat, you noticed something with the cooling system? |
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GottaSki ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() Joined: April-21-2005 Location: NE CT Status: Offline Points: 3365 |
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Ok, confirmed we are speaking of the same boat, no doubts.
PM sent to Chis with contact info to owner prior to the its stint in CT, I wasn't aware my friend is also responsible for its current scheme as well, I must have missed those seasons. |
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"There is nothing, absolutely nothing, half so much worthwhile as messing around with boats...simply messing."
River Rat to Mole |
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Nautique2001 ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: June-14-2004 Location: Massachusetts Status: Offline Points: 2832 |
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Would love to time travel back to the early 80’s to hear who suggested the 454 HO in the Ski and reason behind it. Marketing? Celebrating coming out of bankruptcy? To test the limits of the Ski? I can understand having more power in the Footer. If I’m an insurance company I’m saying you’ve got almost 400 HP in a 18.9 vessel....denied!
Nevertheless, super cool craft. Now a days 450 in a Ski is nothing. Ken |
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2001 ![]() Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: April-16-2019 Location: Marysville Status: Offline Points: 40 |
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Wow! 55?!! Cool! ![]() I'm jealous ![]() |
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1988 2001 Ski Nautique
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