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thanks to all for responding.  Is there any advantage of the ski tique over the older Mustang for slalom skiing and overall usability or is it exactly the same hull as say an early 70's mustang?  Please advise and thank you.  I wish the one in TN was closer but might be worth a drive :)
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It is far but know there is a place for a CC fan and his family to crash within an hour and a half of it (Franklin, TN).  
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Pete,

Wow....small world!!  I think you're right , that the stringers are tired. There is some "Great Stuff" around the exhaust tubes where they leave the manifold so I know they were trying to band-aid something.  One thing I'll say is the engine sounds awesome, idles great, and jumps when I hit it.  It came with a nice Eagle Trailer and the lines of that boat are awesome so I'll put it in the water this weekend just to get the feel for it and then prepare to fix it up.  I was hoping to get away with new upholstery, buffing the hull, some better gauges, polishing the metal, etc.  It sounds like I may need to consider replacing the stringers.............I saw some pictures of that work in progress.  It looks like a LOT of work, and that's if I knew how to do it.  I just retired (early), so I have time and some energy so I'll see if it's in scope for me.  I need to get it in front of an expert to see if the stringers need to be replaced (I'm guessing they didn't repair them after you looked at it.  The timeline of their purchase in 1972 or 73 seems to match but they screwed up the registration along the way and it now states that it is a 1973 boat.

I really wish you could see it and tell me what's right and what's wrong.  I don't want to replace upholstery and have to replace the floor and stringers after.

We'll be in touch I'm sure.

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Thank you that is very generous
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Originally posted by Gary S Gary S wrote:

Why did you get rid of it relativity quick? 

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I think he put some of the money aside to start saving for his Fleetwood Bro-Ham  a few years down the road Wink

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  I'm practicing getting some pictures posted.  I'll send some more of the boat later today.

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Does anyone know where I can find a windshield for the boat in the picture above?  The left side of the windshield is gone.  I took off the right side, it seems fine.  I found one on a boat that is for sale in PA but am wondering if there is something closer to the Milwaukee area.  Any help is appreciated.

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you should start your own new thread about your new purchase so as not to confuse info with the OP’s original topic.
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I'm in the beginning stages of thinking about letting go of the '74.


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Thanks I will do that.  Didn't understand the protocol for how this site works

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Originally posted by Reno Reno wrote:

Thanks I will do that.  Didn't understand the protocol for how this site works

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You're fine with what you've done. Starting a new thread would just eliminate any confusion between your boat and any the OP'r has. 


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realize this might be challenging to answer but was wondering if anyone had input.  Would a Ski Tique offer a better slalom experience over a Glastron SX175 with a Volvo Penta outdrive.  I realize the initial pull would likely be better but was wondering about the Wake and pull at speed.  We have the SX today and would not want to take a step backwards.  Please advise thoughts and thanks again.
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I'll take the challenge and say the Tique will be better than the Glastron. Flatter bottom so a flatter wake on the Tique. 


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Originally posted by Swenster Swenster wrote:

realize this might be challenging to answer but was wondering if anyone had input.  Would a Ski Tique offer a better slalom experience over a Glastron SX175 with a Volvo Penta outdrive.  I realize the initial pull would likely be better but was wondering about the Wake and pull at speed.  We have the SX today and would not want to take a step backwards.  Please advise thoughts and thanks again.


2 part answer.

Part 1 - we have a 2005 Glastron GX185 with 190 HP V6 and VP outdrive, similar boat to yours. For the first time in a very long time I went to slalom ski on it 3 weeks ago. 2 small people in the boat. Trying to deep water start I dragged and fell twice. 3rd time I got up with difficulty. I'm 205 lbs. or so. Are you getting up fine behind the SX175 on a slalom ski? The Tique would pull me up easily by contrast.

Part 2 - the Glastron has a decent wake, maybe smaller than the Tique. But, the tow point at the back rather than the mid hull pylon on the Tique is a major difference. If you really want to slalom, you can't do so very well with a transom tow point like the Glastron.

A 70's Tique isn't a good slalom wake by today's standards, but it is workable.  If slalom is your primary focus moving up to a 90's vintage boat is the way to go.
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Originally posted by DrCC DrCC wrote:

I'm in the beginning stages of thinking about letting go of the '74.




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That makes sense.  The Glastron will pull out my wife and daughters on one but it is a pretty long drag for my son and me.   A lower pitch prop would help but definitely agree a more centralized pylon would be a plus.  I may add a removable ski pylon to it at some point but it will never have the pull of an inboard.  I realize an older boat will never match up to our 2006 Nautique but I do like the vintage sound and look and that it will fit in our single car garage and will likely be even easier to launch do to its' smaller size and weight.  I appreciate the insight.
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I forgot you have a 2006, so you know the difference. Smile

Yes, a different prop would help the Glastron.  But, it already winds pretty high at WOT and cruising, which the boat is used for most of the time, would be impacted negatively I think.

Get a Tique! We can tell how much you look forward to the old school sound and feel. It will be a blast to ski behind.  One more comment ... after having an inboard to ski with most of the time for 40 years now, I really don't enjoy the I/O. I remind every skier it's back there when they are ready to jump in, and just generally prefer not to have a prop and outdrive as compared to the safety of the inboards.
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The Glastron should have a much flatter wake than the Tique.   The Tique should pull you out of the water not much different than your '06.   You probably won't like the Tique wake after skiing with the '06 and Glastron.   And the 16 ft. feels pretty tiny from the drivers seat.
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When I had my Glastron , I had two different pitched props . One for skiing - wakeboarding and one for cruising.
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Originally posted by DrCC DrCC wrote:

 You probably won't like the Tique wake after skiing with the '06 and Glastron.   And the 16 ft. feels pretty tiny from the drivers seat.

 Ahhhhhh but that's the joy of skiing behind a classic CC. Kermit isn't exactly the ideal wake to ski behind but at 30mph there isn't a better sound ANYWHERE than the duel muffler subwoofer driven by a 302HM amplifier, and especially when the driver has to throttle up to maintain speed. Heart
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Thanks.  Definitely enjoy the sound of the vintage inboards.  Two quick questions:
1. Is a later tique essentially the same as a Mustang?
2. Is a 302 easy to winterize?  I imagine the steps are drain the block, drain the intakes, disconnect the waterpump pickup, place waterpump intake in RV antifreeze, start fog.  
Is that correct?  also realize oil change and filter should occur too.

Please let me know.  I have always had my newer Nautique done for me but was wondering if i could do this one.  Thanks to all for the replies.  Great site.
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Yes,  Ski Tique / Mustang 16 - exact same mold.  The ST should have a bottom fin.
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Thanks for advising.  Would the fin make a significant difference in the handling and ski-ability vs a Mustang.  I also found the below near me but they want $8k for it which i think is a bit high.  It was restored with a new floor and stringers.  Not sure if they offered this color scheme in 71??


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The red stripe may not be original.   And the orange or brown on the deck was not there in '71.
The fin:    I had a '66 Mustang.  I installed a fin.  It did not make much of a difference.  The one difference I did notice was that It turned tighter without the fin.   As far as keeping it between the bouys with really good skier,  not much difference.


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Thank you for advising me.  The seller shared pictures of the restoration done prior to his ownership.  Is the below concering?  It appears they encased everthing in glass or foam?  Would this make the parts encased impossible to replace?  Please share any thoughts


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Concerning,  yes.   Not impossible, but a huge inconvenience.



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thank you..  Would you pass on it based on this?  not sure how often the encased items would need to be replaced but I wouldn't want to inherit a major problem.  Please confirm and thank you.
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I would pass just for the orange or brown whatever it is on the deck.   I would walk from the 8k.  Then I would run from the permanent exhaust.    Then I'd call up Pete and ask if we could spend the day on his Ski Tique.
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