Odd starting issue

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   I’m not quite sure how to explain this. It happened once a day over the last 2 days. 

Last fall I had my pitot gauges replaced with Faria GPS. I’ve also recently replaced the thing the key goes into, ignition key thing. 

So what it does is I push the ignition switch, then turn the key as usual. It turns over fine but doesn’t start, and the starter continues to turn and turn and turn, even though I am not holding the key on. I pull the key totally out and turn off the ignition switch, and it kept turning over. It stopped when I put the key back in and turned to on position. 

Clearly there is some kind of short. Where should I even start though?

1989 SN 351W

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Netdewt Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: February-15-2010 Location: Minneapolis Status: Offline Points: 215	Post Options Post Reply Quote Netdewt Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Odd starting issue Posted: July-03-2021 at 6:56pm
	I’m not quite sure how to explain this. It happened once a day over the last 2 days. Last fall I had my pitot gauges replaced with Faria GPS. I’ve also recently replaced the thing the key goes into, ignition key thing. So what it does is I push the ignition switch, then turn the key as usual. It turns over fine but doesn’t start, and the starter continues to turn and turn and turn, even though I am not holding the key on. I pull the key totally out and turn off the ignition switch, and it kept turning over. It stopped when I put the key back in and turned to on position. Clearly there is some kind of short. Where should I even start though? 1989 SN 351W
	1989 Ski Nautique 2001, 880 hours

KENO Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Grand Poobah Joined: June-06-2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 10889	Post Options Post Reply Quote KENO Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: July-03-2021 at 8:38pm
	Does this happen every time or just sometimes, couldn't decide from the description if it got started 10 times a day for example and acted up once or you started it once and had the problem. If it's every time I'm gonna guess that you have the wrong wires on the wrong terminals on the new keyswitch If you look at the back you should have 3 terminals unless you bought one with an accessory position, then there will be 4 terminals. If you look at the TRB diagram below which works very well for your 89, you see a Red wire that should go to the BATT terminal, a Purple wire attached to the I or Ignition terminal and a Yellow/Red wire attached to the S or Start solenoid terminal. I'd make sure you can read the terminal markings and that the right wires are on the right terminals. Alternately, I think maybe it's the "Revenge of the Airguides"

Netdewt Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: February-15-2010 Location: Minneapolis Status: Offline Points: 215	Post Options Post Reply Quote Netdewt Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: July-03-2021 at 9:09pm
	I’ve been starting it probably 20-30 times a day as we are out and getting kids going. So it’s not every time at all. Yeah I would have loved to keep the air guides. They are haunting me.
	1989 Ski Nautique 2001, 880 hours

KENO Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Grand Poobah Joined: June-06-2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 10889	Post Options Post Reply Quote KENO Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: July-04-2021 at 12:58am
	Well in that case, I'd replace the starter solenoid/relay on the back of the engine and make sure it's grounded good through the mounting bolts. It sounds like the big internal contacts are getting bad and stick and one time will weld themselves together. It's probably working with the ghost of the Airguides

Netdewt Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: February-15-2010 Location: Minneapolis Status: Offline Points: 215	Post Options Post Reply Quote Netdewt Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: July-04-2021 at 10:30am
	Thank you, that gives me a “starting” point.
	1989 Ski Nautique 2001, 880 hours

Odd starting issue

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