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    Posted: October-03-2007 at 12:46am
I was changing speakers on my 93 sport and I came across a problem where I have too large a magnet to fit against the vynal. I guess I need to know if I can cut out the 3.5" to clearance for the magnet in the side fiberglass. Will I want to reenforce it in that area or will it not be a problem to cut it there. As soon as possible would be great :)



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Could you not use a shim or spacer ring between the speaker and the vinyl? How far off is it?
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about 3/4" Obviously safety and structural integrity is utmost. I was just hoping someone knew if it would be safe to do.
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If it's only 3/4" you should be able to find a nice trim ring to push it out. Do a search IIRC Randy_in_Ohio may have done some upgrades on his +/-93' SN, also do some searches on Planet Nautique, more Stereo upgrades happen over there. Hate to see you cutting up the boat if it's not necessary.
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I posted it on Planet Nautique, I went and looked and it is about 3/4 -1". It just sticks out too far for my liking. I am taking these speakers from my old boat and they cost me a pretty penny and I really dont want to loose them ,but I dont want to get rid of them cause of some minor problem like this.
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I wouldn't be cutting into the fiberglass in that area if I was you.
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Im surprised that the fiberglass isnt cut out from the factory. Im not sure if I would break out the sawzall, but my boat has the holes with no ill effects.

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Why would someone cut a hole in a boat, that is forever,,,,,,
Kinda like modifying a dash to install a radio,it will never be the same. But whatever turns your crank..............
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Tim,

Very interesting, were those cut-outs on your boat done at the factory?
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Originally posted by quinner quinner wrote:

Tim,

Very interesting, were those cut-outs on your boat done at the factory?

Im not sure, but I suspect that they were.
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I had the same issue when putting speakers in my 86 ski nautique. I got a 4 inch hole saw and measured it up and cut away. Came out looking pretty sweet, Nice clean hole
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Originally posted by boat dr boat dr wrote:

Why would someone cut a hole in a boat, that is forever,,,,,,
Kinda like modifying a dash to install a radio,it will never be the same. But whatever turns your crank..............


Reminds me of a 1930 21' Dodge Watercar that I knew about years ago in Three Lakes. The kids cut a hole in the dash for radio/8 track and holes on the inside cockpit trim for the speakers. They even came up with a step up transformer from the 6 to 12 volts. Surprisingly there dad wasn't that upset!! I was glad to see the boat go to a collector/broker in the Minneapolis area because he respected the boat. He did restore the boat and of coarse had to replace wood where the holes were cut.


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But for some of us its not about the boat being a collectors item. A 1930 Dodge water car is one thing, but in a ski nautique its a different story. Its more about the functionality and the enjoyment of having music out on the water
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It's just fiberglass underneath a coaming pad for goodness sake, it's a freakin ski boat not a classic car.

If you don't want to break out the sawzall a dremel or roto zip with a spiral cutter works well, nice clean cut.
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Originally posted by wakeboardin2k4 wakeboardin2k4 wrote:

I had the same issue. I got a 4 inch measured up. pretty sweet, Nice clean hole
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Originally posted by 81nautique 81nautique wrote:

It's just fiberglass underneath a coaming pad for goodness sake, it's a freakin ski boat not a classic car.


Alan, You may have taken my comment wrong! I'm all for cutting the hole in back of the exsisting for his speakers. All I said, was that it reminded me of the stereo in the Dodge. By the way, a Dodge Watercar is a boat. It was a prewar that didn't make it. It was the son of the founder of Dodge that ran the company. Absolutely beatifull boats! They made a Chris Crafts look like work boats!


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Originally posted by 81nautique 81nautique wrote:

It's just fiberglass underneath a coaming pad for goodness sake, it's a freakin ski boat not a classic car.


Alan, You may have taken my comment wrong! I'm all for cutting the hole in back of the exsisting for his speakers. All I said, was that it reminded me of the stereo in the Dodge. By the way, a Dodge Watercar is a boat. It was a prewar that didn't make it. It was the son of the founder of Dodge that ran the company. Absolutely beatifull boats! They made a Chris Crafts look like work boats!


That wasn't directed at you Pete. Just seemed like a pretty basic thing, if he wants to cut a hole for a speaker do it it's his boat, who cares.. The factory does it all the time. I don't understand the reasoning behind "You can't put it back", or I wouldn't be cutting there. He's gonna fill the hole with a speaker and cover it with a coaming pad, will look nice, no big deal.
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Pete,

I've seen several of the Dodge boats at the Tahoe boat show in August. BKH
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Brian, I think one of the reasons I've never made it out to the Tahoe show is that there are TOO many beautiful boats!! I'd want all of them!


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Originally posted by 81nautique 81nautique wrote:

Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:

Originally posted by 81nautique 81nautique wrote:

It's just fiberglass underneath a coaming pad for goodness sake, it's a freakin ski boat not a classic car.


Alan, You may have taken my comment wrong! I'm all for cutting the hole in back of the exsisting for his speakers. All I said, was that it reminded me of the stereo in the Dodge. By the way, a Dodge Watercar is a boat. It was a prewar that didn't make it. It was the son of the founder of Dodge that ran the company. Absolutely beatifull boats! They made a Chris Crafts look like work boats!


That wasn't directed at you Pete. Just seemed like a pretty basic thing, if he wants to cut a hole for a speaker do it it's his boat, who cares.. The factory does it all the time. I don't understand the reasoning behind "You can't put it back", or I wouldn't be cutting there. He's gonna fill the hole with a speaker and cover it with a coaming pad, will look nice, no big deal.


I know it will work but my big question which I dont think will have a problem is integrity. I dont want speakers sticking out and I will cover the holes anyway and I know it will look nice cause I am picky like that. I dont envision myself owning this or any other toy boat and not have some tunes in it. So as long as I wont hurt it structurally, I will be cutting them this weekend :)
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TRDon,

IF it was my boat I wouldn't hesitate to do it. The factory cuts speaker holes and a hole for the throttle. Not a big deal even with th ebottom cut out as Trbenj's photo above shows. USe a spiral cutter so you get a nice clean edge with no chipping of the gel. Really doesn't matter since you're covering it up anyway. Cut the hole with no square corners (All radiused) so there is no stress point for the fiberglass to crack from although I don't think it would anyway but better safe than sorry.

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Awesome, exactly what I was looking for. I was planing on reverse cutting through the gel with a 3.5 inch holesaw and taking it out that way then filing it the rest of the way round on the edges :)

I just spent 5 hours using heavy rubbing compound on my hevily chalked and discolored hull and I am spent. Tomorrow I get to go through it again with a lighter compound , the a couple coats of polish then a UV wax. Probably get to the speakers tomorrow too if I am up for it. It is looking really good now though, it was a pretty dramatic difference. I cant wait til its done though.
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I cut some holes with a hole saw drill bit. Works great.Go here to see the pics.      hole saw pics
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