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    Posted: October-27-2007 at 5:13pm
Am I missing something. This is the first year I have had a Nautique in 10 years and am getting ready to winterize. However, I never had a problem once with the way I did before.

1) Take boat out after running with Stabil
2) Drain oil and change filter
3) Disconnect intake hose and insert into a 5 gallon bucket
4) As long a engine is warm fill bucket with 2 gallons of earth friendly antifreeze. Have a third gallon on hand juse in case.
5) Within 30 seconds pink antifreeze should be coming out. Turn off Engine.
6) Fog engine.

Done.

I have never drained before because I worry if i got all the water in some places.

Never had a problem ever.
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skidog, I think you have been lucky so far. Although there are plenty of people who do not drain before putting in the RV antifreeze I wouldn't take a chance of getting a pocket of water. The RV antifreeze if mixed with water will loose lots of its freeze protection. You are really not running the engine long enough to be sure that all the water has been replaced with antifreeze.


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Originally posted by skidog skidog wrote:

I have never drained before because I worry if i got all the water in some places.

You think theres less of a chance of leaving water behind by draining the block than there is by leaving it full of water? Sounds like backwards logic to me

I agree with Pete- youve been lucky so far. The RV antifreeze doesnt offer much protection when diluted.
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I am also in MN and I usually drain the block and take off the stat housing and pour antifreeze directtly in until I cant put more in. Then I take to hoses off the stat housing and put about a gallon in each manifold. Other than oil and fogging thats what i do.
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winterizing proceedure

Don't forget the good old method of just draining the water!


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Im with Pete. hell with the antifreeze, alot of manuals say nothing about antifreeze, it is merely for corrosion protection. the manual's do say elnumberone-o to drain the block of all water then antifreeze if at all.
I would never chance that method the block has to many cavities that may not clear of water, this is being said from doing 40 or so boats every fall. if they crack i have to pay so I wont take a chance. and i use the just drain method on guys that refuse to pick up thier boats
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Eric, I had better say more on the subject on just draining! First, I do not advise it. The antifreeze is very good insurance. With the complexities of todays engines as compared to the good old straight 6 Hercules block draining and pouring antifreeze in to get any low spots is the only way to go.


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Pete, i still anti-freeze them, i look at it this way, if you drain all the drain points you wont crack, if you just add antifreeze there is a chance of a crack.
my point was whichever path you choose you cant go wrong with draining the block, but i also recommend drain it and antifreeze it
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Eric, Sometimes I think you need to slow down!! Go back and read my previous post!! "I do not advise it" (draining only) "very good insurance" (antifreeze)


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eric and Pete: 20 years of owning C/C's....never drained...always did the antifreeze method...no problems ever with 6 boats. Helped many guys do theirs as well. Would not agree with leaving the block empty but I think there is lots of guys here that know way more than me.

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I thought that maybe you thought that that i thought not to antifreeze, but then you thought that i thought about cheap insurance to antifreeze and then again i thought about it and thinking that you thought about it again hahahahaha.
On the serious side i warm them, fog em, drain em and antifreese them, no more than 2 gallons per engine (it adds up),when you drain the block it also cuts down on antifreeze useage, those of you that like to pollute can use green antifreeze, i use bio AF and you can fire the boat in the lake
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well I am confused now...but gotta agree with one thing...always use pink.

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Originally posted by jbear jbear wrote:

well I am confused now...but gotta agree with one thing...always use pink.

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Now I am confused, I thought "it" was all pink on the inside.....
But there I go thinking again, and Karen says I am not allowed to do that.
Winterization consists of throwing a light blanket in the boat for those afternoon runs.
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what if its pink and it stinks?
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Maybe you should call Roto-Rooter..........
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Originally posted by jbear jbear wrote:

eric and Pete: 20 years of owning C/C's....never drained...always did the antifreeze method...no problems ever with 6 boats. Helped many guys do theirs as well. Would not agree with leaving the block empty but I think there is lots of guys here that know way more than me.

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John, If you have always used the pink eviro friendly then I really feel you have been lucky because it is not meant to be diluted. Opening up 5 drain plugs is no big deal so if you ever get up north, I recommend draining.


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Thanks Pete but I am not thinking of goin' back North anytime soon. I always used it straight.

dr: You know I like your "winterization" method. You also know you should listen to the boat nurse more often. Did you notice on another thread that I got my package? Call you next week.

eric: Spoken like a true "brunstuckian".

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