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clarkebar
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Posted: January-14-2008 at 4:24pm |
Hello, I am goung to replace the stringers in my 62 claasic and was wondering if I should use presure treated wood that has dried or white oak. Any help would be great.
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8122pbrainard
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Eric, Do not use treated even if it is dry and although white oak is a excellent choice it is overkill. The treated will cause a chemical reaction and the white oak is too heavy. Some nice clear fir is the best. Do use epoxy resin for the job. Have you read any of the threads here about stringer replacement? A 62 is right at the point where foam was started to be used in the CC hulls. Was yours foamed?
I just noticed that you are new to posting on the site. Welcome! Keep us informed with the project and do rely on us for any questions that you have. |
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clarkebar
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Brian,
Thanks for you input. I will use fir but my only concern was, would the wood be dense enough to hold the lag bolts which hold the engine mounts. Mine uses the wooden wedges for alinment. The old stringers just looked to be white oak. If fir is what is being used then I am glad to use it. Thanks |
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clarkebar
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Brian,
I forgot to answer the foam question. No mine did not use foam. I found a tag next to the motor which had PC172 on it. I assume it is the hull#. Maybe it will help somebody identify when they started using foam. |
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My bet is that the original stringers were fir. CC used fir stringers right up until they switched to composites in 1993. |
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8122pbrainard
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A boat with oak stringers is rare. I have only seen it once and it was a custom built 20's replica of one of Gar Woods racers. Mahogany yes in pre war was common.
Eric, Your lag bolts should be rather long. Maybe 4" of thread engagement into the stringer? Don't worry, that will hold!! I asked if the boat had been foamed because it is the foam that holds all the water and is felt to be a major cause for the rot. Was the hull sitting outside and filled with water? How bad are the stringers? Edit: Eric, I just noticed after re reading that you haven't mentioned rot! Are they rotted? When someone talks about replacing stringers here on this site, it is usually rot related! |
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JoeinNY
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Reid mentioned that has 64 SN was never foamed so my guess is it was after 64 they started.
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p/allen
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My 64 mustange does not have foam either .
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BuffaloBFN
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PC172 sounds familiar...did you just buy it?
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skicat
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Hey Greg,
PC172 is the serial number of the 62 classic that you were thinking about buying down in Loganville. If that is the boat, Stringer replacement is completely necessary because of rot. Eric is this the boat you bought? Where are you located. I am in Duluth, Ga 62 Classic |
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Barracuda
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You could have called it the light pole boat and we would have know which one
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8122pbrainard
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Eric, PC172? Do you own a Dremel tool? Lots of work! A complete gel removal may be needed. Keep us posted.
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clarkebar
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John,
Sorry about the name thing. Yes It is the boat from loganville. I traded a liitle fishing boat for it. Yes the gel coat is in very bad shape. I do have a dremel tool but why? I am going to do my best with the gel coat but if nothing else I will just make it a beater on the lake. |
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clarkebar
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Greg,
It is the boat from Loganville I am in marietta. I plan on replacing the stringers in the near future. |
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8122pbrainard
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Eric, I mentioned the Dremel tool because repairing cracks in the gel coat requires them to be routed out and then filled. When there are lots of cracks like yours, it is usually better to compleatly remove the gel (recommended) and start over. The only problem with removal is that the depth reference of the original gel is lost. Ether way, it is work! If just painted or gelled over the cracks will telegraph through which is usually the first time it's out in the sun. There are several threads here on site that cover the process of re gelling.
Does the engine turn over? |
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clarkebar
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Pete I just looked a the Profile I think I finally got you name right! So sorry.
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skicat
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Eric,
Glad someone got the boat to fix up before he cut it up. There are several post on here about stringer replacement if you do a search. Lots of knowledge on here as well, so ask away with the questions. If you are looking for the motor cover, I think 67nautique312 (Paul) might have the one you need. Good Luck & keep us updated with some pictures of the restore! One more thing. On here they are not beaters, they are classics! |
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clarkebar
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greg,
Thanks for the input. I was going to just make one but if his will work, great. It will save me the time of figuring out the measurements. I will keep everyone posted with pictures. |
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clarkebar
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Pete,
I have read quit a bit on re-geling vs. paint. I agree gel is the way to go. I am just confused at this point as to which gel or perhaps petit epoxy to use. The work does not bother me. Just another reason to drink beer. I will have to completely sand down the hull anyway so I think I am going to make that decision a little later. The motor does turn over. It is a Crusader 282 185HP. Not sure about the condition of the water pump or trans. Either way they will be rebuilt. |
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