starter, repair or replace
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Printed Date: December-21-2024 at 10:32pm
Topic: starter, repair or replace
Posted By: ryanowen
Subject: starter, repair or replace
Date Posted: July-01-2008 at 3:42pm
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Apparently I have a bad starter. Sometimes it doesn't want to go and giving it a crack on the side seems to fix it. I'm not wanting to keep living this way, so I'm trying to figure out what makes the most sense. Do you usually repair or replace starters? Any idea on what to expect as far as cost? Can I remove it myself?
Thanks for any advice! ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=3284 - 1988 Ski Nautique |
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Posted By: Captleisure
Date Posted: July-01-2008 at 4:29pm
| I just did mine a couple of months ago, take your starter out there's two bolts that old it to the flywheel besides the cable bolts. You'll need a foot long extension to get to the bottom bolt. Take it to an auto electric place or a parts store and have them check it. Most likely you'll notice rust falling out of it and it's probably bad. Now get out of the auto parts store because they wont have what you need. Correct craft or a decent dealer will have a left rotation starter but they'll want $500.00. I found an auto electric repair place that was able to order a marine starter for $225.00,you want a marine starter or you'll void your insurance. It's the first thing they look at if you have a problem. |
Posted By: 79nautique
Date Posted: July-01-2008 at 4:32pm
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NAPA has rebuilt marine starters cheaper than most others. You might have to have them dig out a marine catalog if the store isn't near a lake/boating area. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=756&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1979&yrend=1979 - 79 nautique |
Posted By: backfoot100
Date Posted: July-01-2008 at 6:16pm
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You can take it to a shop and have it rebuilt for a whole lot cheaper than a new or remaned. Last starter I had rebuilt cost me $70 or something like that. I've had starters rebuilt and had very good luck with them. That would be my first effort IMO. Then again, the last starter I had was rebuilt four times in three years by three different shops. Worked fine for a few months and then had issues again. I finally got tired of pulling that damn thing out all the time and bought a brand new one. That was two trouble free years ago and I am soooooo happy I did that.
------------- When people run down to the lake to see what's making that noise, you've succeeded. Eddie |
Posted By: 79nautique
Date Posted: July-01-2008 at 6:22pm
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really all that needs replaced are the brushes and add a little grease to the bearing and clean the commutator ring and put it back together. That is provided the nose cone section is good and the gear isn't worn out. 0n a GM you have to replace the solenoid as well but not on a ford model. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=756&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1979&yrend=1979 - 79 nautique |
Posted By: boat dr
Date Posted: July-02-2008 at 1:50am
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Chris that nose cone is called a "drive end housing", and all the new styles have a needle roller bearing to support the armature.
The older ones had a "oilite bushing" that needs replacement with a rebuild.Also the commutator end cap has a bushing too , this needs a new one too, along with a new "brake washer", thats the leather washer . The gear is called a "starter drive" or "Bendix" just a name brand slang that descibes the same part.If it is not worn and is not slipping lube the splines and reassemble with new brushes. Two hours of labor includes R&R starter and rebuild with 20.00 in parts.Done properly a good return in labor/parts VS a rebuilt unit from Bubba's Auto Electric & Tanning Salon.............Boat dr ------------- boat dr /diaries/details.asp?ID=4631 - 1949 Dart /diaries/details.asp?ID=1533 - 1964 American Skier |
Posted By: tullfooter
Date Posted: July-02-2008 at 12:16pm
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Ryan
I had my starter rebuilt by an excellent shop in New Hudson (Wixom). I know that it is a ways from your house, but they are well versed in marine starters. The shop is called Hans Auto Electric (248-437-1717). If you call, talk to Marty. If he is too far, he may know someone in your area. If you need any more info, email me. They've done all of my companies starters, alternators and 12/24 volt motors for 20 years. Steve ------------- Play hard, life's not a trial run. '85 BFN '90 BFN White Lake, Michigan |
Posted By: ryanowen
Date Posted: July-02-2008 at 12:31pm
Thanks for the info gents. I'm going to limit my involvement to just removing the thing for a professional rebuild. I guess I'll need to buy a longer extension for that bottom bolt. Steve, I just gave the guys at Hans a call. Sounds like they might even be able to get it fixed tomorrow. If not, I'll just ride around this weekend with a hammer. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=3284 - 1988 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: 79nautique
Date Posted: July-02-2008 at 1:10pm
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just be sure and tell them it's a reverse rotation motor if it is. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=756&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1979&yrend=1979 - 79 nautique |
Posted By: ryanowen
Date Posted: July-02-2008 at 11:51pm
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According to the manual, it is a right rotation motor. I'm not sure if that translates to reverse rotation or not. Now that I have the starter off, the gear on the end (Bendix, right?), turns freely to the left. Should that be the info the rebuilder needs to know? ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=3284 - 1988 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: tullfooter
Date Posted: July-03-2008 at 12:26am
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Ryan
The rebuilder should be able to tell. Are you going to Hans? Marty will know the rotation by the gear direction. Let me know if I can help. Steve ------------- Play hard, life's not a trial run. '85 BFN '90 BFN White Lake, Michigan |
Posted By: ryanowen
Date Posted: July-03-2008 at 1:38am
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Steve,
I'm going to call them in the morning with the model of the starter. When I talked to them today, I didn't know that info so they couldn't say for sure if they had all the parts needed. Ryan ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=3284 - 1988 Ski Nautique |