Bent rudder shaft
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Printed Date: January-15-2025 at 7:51pm
Topic: Bent rudder shaft
Posted By: Morfoot
Subject: Bent rudder shaft
Date Posted: February-22-2005 at 1:11pm
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I dropped the boat on the ramp last year resulting in a bent prop, skeg and rudder. I had a spare prop(that sings)and a bud gave his old rudder( shaft worn a bit). Anyway I recall seeing on this site or another one where someone actually had there rudder shaft straightened by a prop shop but I can't remember where ( mine isn't bent that bad). I think it was in Tenn but not sure. Anyone ever had one repaired? If so where,how much and did they do agreat job. Prob. send the prop and rudder at same time. ( that's gonna cost some $$ for shipping.) Any info or imput would be appreciated. ------------- "Morfoot; He can ski. He can wakeboard.He can cook chicken.He can create his own self-named beverage, & can also apparently fly. A man of many talents."72 Mustang "Kermit",88 SN Miss Scarlett, 99 SN "Sherman" |
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Posted By: Jim_In_Houston
Date Posted: February-22-2005 at 4:43pm
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Try Mike Hood's Propeller Shop in Houston. The may want to see it before they make any promises. I have been in their shop (too many times) and it's a nice shop. Let me know what happens. Their number is 713-649-7508. (I don't think they have a web site.) ------------- Happy owner of a '66 and a '68 Mustang |
Posted By: 66polyhead
Date Posted: February-22-2005 at 8:51pm
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I think KennyG had his straightened in Newtown OH. Where are you?
http://www.glenwoodmarine.net/Catalog/RUDDERS.pdf - Rudders ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=220&yrstart=1925&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - KY Wildcat |
Posted By: Morfoot
Date Posted: February-23-2005 at 8:58am
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I'm just south of Atlanta.
Just a word of WARNING to all. Don't apply silicon spray to your carpet bunks and not attach the wench or tow hook to the bow eye. That's how the boat was left on the ramp on drive out. I used to just power out on the the ramp and let friction and weight keep boat on the trailer after i left the water but the silicon spray on carpet did too good a job. On the plus side (i guess) is that when launching all I have to do is get her in place and she slides right of into the water. Keeps the gelcoat smooth on the bottom too. ------------- "Morfoot; He can ski. He can wakeboard.He can cook chicken.He can create his own self-named beverage, & can also apparently fly. A man of many talents."72 Mustang "Kermit",88 SN Miss Scarlett, 99 SN "Sherman" |
Posted By: kenny g
Date Posted: February-23-2005 at 1:16pm
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MORFOOT , that was www.deltaprop.com
877-238-8214 whoever dose the repair,have it magnafluxed to check for cracks. ------------- kenny g |
Posted By: Morfoot
Date Posted: February-23-2005 at 4:39pm
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Thanks kenny g. Preciate the heads up! ------------- "Morfoot; He can ski. He can wakeboard.He can cook chicken.He can create his own self-named beverage, & can also apparently fly. A man of many talents."72 Mustang "Kermit",88 SN Miss Scarlett, 99 SN "Sherman" |
Posted By: 66polyhead
Date Posted: February-24-2005 at 1:14am
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By the way 1287 & 1287L are only $170.00 Ea.!!! ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=220&yrstart=1925&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - KY Wildcat |
Posted By: soreneagle
Date Posted: February-24-2005 at 9:01am
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Kenny G
I know what you mean here, but I think magnafluxing only applies to magnetic (iron based) metals and you're right cracks are bad. No one wants to dive for half a rudder. ------------- 85 SN w/351 commander |
Posted By: David F
Date Posted: February-26-2005 at 12:20pm
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I was unsuccessful in getting my rudder straightened. The shafts are very likely to crack when bent as was the case with mine. I decided to go ahead and spend the extra money on a tunable rudder as currently installed on new boats.
BTW, I was able to have my strut and one out of three skegs straigtened. Also, the prop shaft was trashed. All told, I think the new parts set me back about $2000.00 |
Posted By: Morfoot
Date Posted: March-08-2005 at 2:17pm
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Just an update for all who may be interested.
Called Delta prop and talked to Gary. He gave me a quote of $85.00 to $95.00 to fix the prop ( 3 blade) and $35-$40 for the rudder. Turn time was about a week and that included shipping. Sounds pretty reasonable to me. Any feedback ?? ------------- "Morfoot; He can ski. He can wakeboard.He can cook chicken.He can create his own self-named beverage, & can also apparently fly. A man of many talents."72 Mustang "Kermit",88 SN Miss Scarlett, 99 SN "Sherman" |
Posted By: David F
Date Posted: March-09-2005 at 1:12pm
| Prices sound reasonable. Inspect the rudder shaft closely for cracks. If you see any, do not bother sending it out. If you do not see cracks, you may be alright. However, cracks can develope when straightening the shaft, but only trying to straighten it will tell you this. Hopefully yours is not too bad and can be straightened successfully. |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: March-09-2005 at 3:14pm
| Hey David... When I talked to Gary at Delta prop yesterday he asked me how bent it was. Seemed concerned that I not send it to them if the shaft was bent real bad. I informed him that it wasn't and before I removed it that it still would turn some but just not full travel. Thanks for the input. |
Posted By: Morfoot
Date Posted: April-03-2005 at 9:23pm
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UPDATE!! Just wanted to let ya'll know that I got the rudder shaft and the rebuilt prop back on the 1st and MAN was I impressed. The rudder straightening was only 27.00 and the prop rebuild was 100.00. Prop looks brand new Can't believe it was mine. Turn time was about 8 business days so anyone needing this done might wanna give Delta prop Co. a ring. ------------- "Morfoot; He can ski. He can wakeboard.He can cook chicken.He can create his own self-named beverage, & can also apparently fly. A man of many talents."72 Mustang "Kermit",88 SN Miss Scarlett, 99 SN "Sherman" |
Posted By: kenny g
Date Posted: April-05-2005 at 11:06am
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they also sell drive shafts cheaper than any place i've found. ------------- kenny g |
Posted By: David F
Date Posted: April-05-2005 at 2:13pm
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Speaking of shafts, I got me looking at my invoice for the double tapered shaft I purchased a couple months ago. FWIW, I paid $170.00 for the shaft (and another $110.00 for an aluminum coupler). But, more importantly, I looked at the cut sheets on the shaft and it shows three prop retention methods (must specify syle when ordering, I chose nylock):
1. Nut and jamb nut with cotter pin. 2. Nylock nut with cotter pin 3. Castle nut with cotter pin. The important thing being that all methods inploy the cotter pin. Remember the post that someone lost their prop by only using the nylock nut? So anyone using just a nylock nut should add the cotter pin. |
Posted By: kenny g
Date Posted: April-05-2005 at 2:29pm
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real good advice !
i should have went with the double taper shaft when i ordered a new one.woody did'nt mention to me that thats a better way to go.i think all u have to do is change the coupler. advantage is: with a double tapered shaft the coupler cant come loose or spin itself on the shaft correct ? ------------- kenny g |
Posted By: David F
Date Posted: April-06-2005 at 2:04am
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That is what I understand and it makes sense since there is a bar stock keyway at the taper and a nut retaining the shaft to/in the coupler. The coupler then has a set screw that tightens against the nut preventing it from loosening.
I once learned the hard way what happens when a shaft pulls out of the coupler. Ouch, it did a number on my prop and rudder. I then also learned that dimpling a straight shaft is a good idea...has not happened since. My '77 Martinique does not have the collar that I believe is supposed to help keep the prop from hitting the rudder. |
Posted By: skicat2001
Date Posted: August-31-2011 at 1:23pm
Mr. Morfoot, I tore up my 540, completly bent on of the blades inward, and the shaft itself was slightly bent at the end. But I noticed after I had put my boat on the trailer, my steering wheel was real hard to turn. Does this mean that I have a bent rudder too??? And did I read your post correct. 127.00 from delta. wow! And after a prop, shaft being bent, is it best to do another alignment again?? Apperciate any advice on this.. ------------- 1985 CC 2001-SOLD Lee Michael Johnson |
Morfoot wrote:Posted By: Morfoot
Date Posted: August-31-2011 at 2:19pm
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Lee, Wow sorry to hear about your issues. Hurts, don't it? Call the guys at the prop shop for a price quote as my incident happened in 2005. Prices may be a little bit higher but you never know.
I'd say you have a bent rudder shaft and easiest way to be sure is to drop it out of the boat and look at it to see if it's bent. Your description sounds very familiar and brings nightmares.  If your steering frees up after the rudder is out then I'd say you have a bent rudder and send it to Delta along with the prop.
I'd due a run out check on the shaft to see if it got damaged too by whatever you hit. You can do an alignment check but I don't think its necessary if the runout is good. Let us know what you come up with. ------------- "Morfoot; He can ski. He can wakeboard.He can cook chicken.He can create his own self-named beverage, & can also apparently fly. A man of many talents."72 Mustang "Kermit",88 SN Miss Scarlett, 99 SN "Sherman" |
Posted By: skicat2001
Date Posted: August-31-2011 at 6:29pm
Will do.. Thanks Mr. Morfoot ------------- 1985 CC 2001-SOLD Lee Michael Johnson |