Kristof...
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Topic: Kristof...
Posted By: BuffaloBFN
Subject: Kristof...
Date Posted: December-01-2008 at 2:57pm
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I've been reading a lot about what happened in Mumbai in our local papers. What I'd like to hear is a European opinion and point of view. Would you favor us?
Also, which online newspaper would you say is the most objective and reputable in your part of the world? Thanks! ------------- http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=2331&sort=&pagenum=12&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - 1988 BFN-sold "It's a Livin' Thing...What a Terrible Thing to Lose" ELO |
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Posted By: uk1979
Date Posted: December-01-2008 at 3:51pm
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/7758809.stm - BBC http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7758673.stm - Obama ------------- Lets have a go 56 Starflite 77 SN 78 SN 80 BFN |
Posted By: BuffaloBFN
Date Posted: December-01-2008 at 4:02pm
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Thanks Roger...and I didn't mean to leave the rest of you guys out; especially if opinions vary from one area to another.
How about the opinions that don't make the papers? ------------- http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=2331&sort=&pagenum=12&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - 1988 BFN-sold "It's a Livin' Thing...What a Terrible Thing to Lose" ELO |
Posted By: uk1979
Date Posted: December-01-2008 at 4:43pm
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Hi Greg.
The general feeling here is its a attempt to destabilize India and Pakistani relations to make the Pakistani troops move from Afghan borders where US and UK in Afghanistan are taking the Taleban out on both sides of the border,to the Indian borders giving time for the Taleban to regroup. ------------- Lets have a go 56 Starflite 77 SN 78 SN 80 BFN |
Posted By: BuffaloBFN
Date Posted: December-01-2008 at 5:18pm
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Thanks again Roger. That's more info in one statement than I've gotten from a big handful of long articles besides names and timelines. It also makes good sense and tends to fit with what I've read. The word here is that progress is good against the Taliban...is the same story told on your shores?
I asked this question because I have no real idea of what life is like in an area with so many different people and such close borders. Over here we may have different accents from state line to state line, and we may have different discussions over something different for dinner; but we're mostly similar in our core beliefs IMHO. It's also said that Obama will be tested. Have you heard that story? ------------- http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=2331&sort=&pagenum=12&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - 1988 BFN-sold "It's a Livin' Thing...What a Terrible Thing to Lose" ELO |
Posted By: uk1979
Date Posted: December-01-2008 at 7:02pm
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I think Bush would like a new head trophy to hang on the wall with Bin Lardin on it when he leaves the White House, yes your guys are picking off the Taliban with remote flying bombs, took a Uk terrorist out only the other week, think its getting a bit hot for Bin Lardin.
Obama tested? If you mean terrorist and countrys will push him to see what he is made of, yes they will. For me now comes the hard part fix America in 4 years or at best 8 think you will all be paying allot more Tax, can only think of what we have had over here with are lot,not too clued up on the problems in the US. Ten years back we moved from Conservative to time for change New Labour because the Cons had become a mess as a party with no real leader,but Labour had Tony Blair, so in he came with all this more for all which meant Gov spending when up and up selling all the reserves we had in gold and borrowing more and more, which has given us a welfare state of sorts, and yes taxes went up too + lots of new ones,now the world has hit the skids, what's the new plan borrow more just a trillion or two and we can all pay it back later which works out to be around 40,000.00 for every one in the UK. Yes we need a welfare system to help when your down, but that's ok if everyone will work but we have lots that just live off the system because its so easy too. It looks much the same your at the Change time hope it works out better for you guys. ------------- Lets have a go 56 Starflite 77 SN 78 SN 80 BFN |
Posted By: SNobsessed
Date Posted: December-01-2008 at 8:56pm
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Relating two threads together - - Maybe Azam Amir Qasab (lone India terrorist still alive) might be getting some taser treatments??
Can you say ouch? ------------- “Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.” Ben Franklin |
Posted By: Kristof
Date Posted: December-02-2008 at 7:52am
I could not have said that better! This is the overall feeling we have out here too. But I did not follow that item very closely, because in Belgium one of the most important trials is about to start. 21 persons where arrested for another kind of extremism: nazism! These guys are skinheads and neo nazi's who are member of a group called BBET (a faction of the so called "Blood and Honour" group), and, the leaders from this group were colleagues from my unit...!!! 
Never saw that one coming! They were planning several bomb attacks on key points here in Belgium in order to destabilize the country... The investigation went on for two years and an undercover agent followed all their reunions and meetings. At their arrest, the police found lots of weapons and self made bombs... ------------- - Gun control means: using BOTH hands! - Money doesn't make one happy, but when it rains cats and dogs, it's still better to cry in a Porsche than on a bicycle... |
uk1979 wrote:Posted By: jbear
Date Posted: December-02-2008 at 11:18pm
And you had no clue? Wow bet you guys were surprised. How could guys that are soldiers be so disloyal to their country? john ------------- "Loud pipes save lives" AdamT sez "I'm Canadian and a beaver lover myself"... |
Posted By: SNobsessed
Date Posted: December-03-2008 at 12:20am
Satan loves to take good guys down . . . ------------- “Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.” Ben Franklin |
Posted By: Kristof
Date Posted: December-03-2008 at 11:11am
None of us had any clue John... You can't even imagine how surprised I was, and, above all dissapointed of such treason towards our country
But I'm glad the rest of us still have the heart in the right place! ------------- - Gun control means: using BOTH hands! - Money doesn't make one happy, but when it rains cats and dogs, it's still better to cry in a Porsche than on a bicycle... |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: December-03-2008 at 11:55am
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yeah right, ring leader
remember when Clinton said "I did not have sexual relations with that woman" lol, I know your loyalty is for your country, I can tell when I talk to you ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: December-03-2008 at 12:13pm
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Weird stuff happens. I know someone that was a cop and in charge of drug contraband with 2 other guys. One of the guys, the straightess shooter in the group started using, stealing and selling. By the time it all came to light, it was a huge contraversy. Totally devestated the 2 good cops because it happened under their nose because they trusted each other so much. ------------- |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: December-03-2008 at 12:40pm
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Riley, your area is pretty infested with Heroin, i watched a show on Afghanistan production and it is up 90%, this is where people wonder why we dont go in and level the country, spray agant orange, that is BIG business, and alot of corrupt people have thier hands out, this *************** finances the cause. and to boot you cant get a pocket knife past airport security and this *************** is flowing into this country.
People sit back on this site and probably think Im a nut on the way I think, its all about the allmighty dollar no matter whats in its way, its a powerful force BTW, how is the housing market in your area? ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: sanity
Date Posted: December-03-2008 at 1:04pm
Proves that not one of us, soldier or not, are perfect. It is frightening when you take an oath and then have the ability and strength to dishonor your country. You can tell alot about a person by how they conduct their personal life too. An oath in marriage, an oath to your country or a personal oath to yourself...they all relate. I would not be very happy to have a "wingman" standing beside me who does not have strong values. Guess Bill Clinton showed us it was ok? He screwed up...but the big issue was the lieing that followed. Scary world.........sex and money. What were these guys like when you knew them? |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: December-03-2008 at 1:24pm
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Eric, a lot of our dope comes up from Mass. Lawrence is a big source town. Profiling on the Maine Turnpike works pretty well. A lot of the people running it up here have Mass plates and don't look like most Mainers. They can be profiled pretty easily, if the cops dare do that. There are a lot of addicts up here. We never used to have crime like robberies. They didn't happen. Now we have them every week. In all places rural and in the city.
Our market is continueing to worsen. It's holding its own along I95 and greater Portland, but go into the rural areas and prices are declining. Summer properties aren't selling too well. The appraisal business sucks. I keep waiting for the really low rates to kick off some business but it's not happening yet. ------------- |
Posted By: Kristof
Date Posted: December-03-2008 at 3:32pm
Eric, that's narrow minded of you LOL You should know by now that my loyalty is towards my country and its' partners (like you boys and gals!) 
Michelle, It is very frightening indeed and no, I'm not very happy either about those "wingmen"... What where they like...? Just guys you could have a normal conversation with in the canteen... Even if there were some differences in opinions, nothing would ever showed they were up to these kind of actions...  ------------- - Gun control means: using BOTH hands! - Money doesn't make one happy, but when it rains cats and dogs, it's still better to cry in a Porsche than on a bicycle... |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: December-03-2008 at 5:55pm
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Kris, now you know how Obama felt hanging around guy's like that, people are still people and the only difference is opinions and beliefs. does that make you think like them? I dont think so but they could still be your best friend ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: Kristof
Date Posted: December-04-2008 at 10:04am
Scary isn't it...? ------------- - Gun control means: using BOTH hands! - Money doesn't make one happy, but when it rains cats and dogs, it's still better to cry in a Porsche than on a bicycle... |
Posted By: Terp
Date Posted: December-04-2008 at 2:46pm
I would say these types probably don't see it as disloyalty. Quite the opposite, they probably view their beliefs and actions as the ultimate in national and likely racial loyalty. I would also venture to guess their Nazi ideology preceeded their military enrollment/enlistment. Kristof, is military service compulsory in Belgium? |
Posted By: Kristof
Date Posted: December-04-2008 at 4:52pm
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Terp, the compulsory military service has been abolished about 15 years ago.
Dumbest thing the government did! Several polls over the last few years all show more than 75% of the population is pro reistating military service... ------------- - Gun control means: using BOTH hands! - Money doesn't make one happy, but when it rains cats and dogs, it's still better to cry in a Porsche than on a bicycle... |
Posted By: Terp
Date Posted: December-04-2008 at 5:26pm
| I think it would be a good idea to at least try it in the US. At this point I don't think we need it for improving defense, though that would have to be the primary goal. I do think it might be a good way of "molding" our young men and improving the habits and decisions they make. Among other things, I think it would be interesting to see the impact it might have on our crime rates. I don't think the military is the place to carry out social experiments, but you cannot deny the impact, both positive and negative, military service has on the social fabric of a population. |
Posted By: jbear
Date Posted: December-05-2008 at 2:33am
probably??!! john ------------- "Loud pipes save lives" AdamT sez "I'm Canadian and a beaver lover myself"... |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: December-05-2008 at 9:47am
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John,it all makes sense though,
Im also now convinced that Oswald was the lone shooter ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: SkiBum
Date Posted: December-05-2008 at 11:34am
The US military is a volunteer force. Folks volunteer for different reasons. Some people find that it is not the place for them once they join. These people are a huge burdon on the leadership and have a negative impact from the platoon level up. That is why most true warriors migrate toward the special forces. Every Airborne Ranger, Sapper, or Operator volunteered to do what he is doing. Just because you volunteer, doesn't mean you will be accepted. A transcript military is completely opposite. They don't want to be there. They can't be kicked out. It is a very challenging concept. In my opinion that is a horrible concept. I understand that historically, the US instituted drafts, and created some very successful fighting units. However, I would rather have ten motivated warriors than one hundred conscripts. ------------- Bill http://www.freewebs.com/billsboatworks - http://www.freewebs.com/billsboatworks www.freewebs.com/billsboatworks 1987 SN Rebuild Project |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: December-05-2008 at 11:37am
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I prefer the Coast Guard, somebody has to guard the woman and children ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: Kristof
Date Posted: December-05-2008 at 5:13pm
We are feeling the impact on our youngsters in order of respect, discipline and moral values right now! I'm not the guy that says that the army has to be the place to educate children, but we can be just one more cog in the whole "fabrication" process...
Hahahaha... Eric, that has to be one of your most cynic quotes as of yet... Ever take three shots in a row with a bolt action rifle...???
Agreed Skibum, but still if you take the time to work on them (green card from the higher echelon needed though)...
It is indeed, but the benefits at the end of the line are also rewarding... (BTW, they don't get kicked out... they get kicked in!!)
And these guys are indeed needed to guide and teach the a**holes that think they do not belong there... ------------- - Gun control means: using BOTH hands! - Money doesn't make one happy, but when it rains cats and dogs, it's still better to cry in a Porsche than on a bicycle... |
Posted By: sanity
Date Posted: December-05-2008 at 6:09pm
Now Eric...am I going to have to correct your statement? 
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Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: December-05-2008 at 9:03pm
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Kris, it wasnt considered a 12" pattern, from a sharpshooters perspective he was way off but not on the last meditated shot. I believe he practiced for that fateful day, and he got what was coming to him,.....as did OJ today!!!!! he had the background and desire to do what he did.
Sanity, I thought it was an honorable suggestion ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: December-06-2008 at 2:09pm
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maybe OJ will get the Dahmer treatment, you can catch a ball but that dont make you any smarter ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: uk1979
Date Posted: December-07-2008 at 2:59pm
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Hi Guys.
This is the new thing our Gov has now come up with,from now on if you have a mortgage and find you cannot pay through loosing your job it will guarantee the interest on the loan for up to 2 years if you extend your mortgage until you find new work.The max mortgage you can apply this too is 400,000.00.So if this mess runs for less than 2 years we are all ok if not you are out your house. I think your new Guy many run something like this for you. ------------- Lets have a go 56 Starflite 77 SN 78 SN 80 BFN |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: December-07-2008 at 6:03pm
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uk, programs are in place already at the bank level, they are not highly publicized. they are flexing a bit. its going to take some time to recover from this mess, at least the Gov. finally admitted we are in a recession.
It sure the f is funny on how the gas prices 2 months ago were 4.00 a gallon and this morning I paid 1.56, un fin believable, We are puppets, I still say in the big picture someone in power let loose of these sloppy loans and new exactly what the outcome would be, they dont just hand out money as they did without knowing the end result ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: uk1979
Date Posted: December-11-2008 at 10:43pm
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Eric Gas is down here now too 0.98 per L not as much as you guys but the has fallen off a cliff against the $ and Euro.
I see they have had more rounded up in Kristof neck of the woods fill us in Kristof. ------------- Lets have a go 56 Starflite 77 SN 78 SN 80 BFN |
Posted By: BuffaloBFN
Date Posted: December-12-2008 at 8:50am
I saw that too; what did the papers leave out? ------------- http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=2331&sort=&pagenum=12&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - 1988 BFN-sold "It's a Livin' Thing...What a Terrible Thing to Lose" ELO |
Posted By: uk1979
Date Posted: December-12-2008 at 9:40am
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They said on the radio that some more terrorists had been rounded up,all I know.
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