Snowmobiles - how fast?
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Topic: Snowmobiles - how fast?
Posted By: DeepCreekNauti
Subject: Snowmobiles - how fast?
Date Posted: February-07-2009 at 4:46pm
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I have been watching these things literally fly up and down the lake for the last several weekends. My question is how fast can they go? They move across the ice faster than any boat or seadoo we see in the summer which is about 70 mph. However, these snowmobiles seem to move much much faster. One guy told us the newer "sleds" with go 110-130 mph. Was this guy for real?
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Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: February-07-2009 at 4:52pm
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Yes!! ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: 62 wood
Date Posted: February-07-2009 at 5:04pm
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My 700 Yamaha Viper will run 120 plus MPH on good hard pack... ( Stock ..about 140hp/500lbs) We consistantly run the 60 to 80 mph area.
Not hard to get 155- 160 hp out of em.... but Ive left my last two sleds pretty much bone stock... Crack the throttle and breaking the track loose at 80mph is enough for me. Just about as much fun as boating..  ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1117&sort=&pagenum=6" rel="nofollow - 64 American Skier 62 Classic.. 73 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: p/allen
Date Posted: February-07-2009 at 9:59pm
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I get 95 out of my 500 polaris . It deffinatly makes the deer come and go faster . ------------- Pat http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w146/72ccfan/100_5977-1.jpg - My 72 Skier Rock River Dixon,ILL. |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: February-07-2009 at 10:59pm
Steve. No studs? Well most of the snow melted today in the Chicago area so I imagine it's gone down by you too. At least you were able to get out on the sled this year! ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
62 wood wrote:Posted By: DeepCreekNauti
Date Posted: February-08-2009 at 12:51am
| Wow. That is crazy fast! It must be awfully cold at 100mph. I did 73 on my buddys Seadoo this summer and that was plenty fast for me. |
Posted By: 62 wood
Date Posted: February-08-2009 at 2:24am
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Pete, 192 picks in the track, in deeper snow, it'll still break loose. I like the picks for breaking and cornering.
Chris, The sleds have adjustable hand and thumb warmers. That, with 500 to a thousand bucks in the right bibs, boots, coats, gloves, helmets, etc. its not that bad. You have to watch it, but we've ridden in 20 below actual air temp with no problems. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1117&sort=&pagenum=6" rel="nofollow - 64 American Skier 62 Classic.. 73 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: jbear
Date Posted: February-08-2009 at 2:38am
With all due respect...I can't imagine for the life of me why anyone would want to do that. john ------------- "Loud pipes save lives" AdamT sez "I'm Canadian and a beaver lover myself"... |
Posted By: 62 wood
Date Posted: February-08-2009 at 2:50am
John, sounds like your whimping out with old age! 
Actually, when we drive 8 to 10 hours north for a 4 or 5 days of riding, you cant alway choose the weather. The alternative is to stay in the motel room.....as for me, I'll take the ride! ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1117&sort=&pagenum=6" rel="nofollow - 64 American Skier 62 Classic.. 73 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: February-08-2009 at 10:31am
Old age with a warm climate attitude!! ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: hasbeenskier
Date Posted: February-08-2009 at 10:46am
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Now thats funny. "Old age with a warm climate attitude...holding a glass of sweet tea. Do I hear Jimmy Buffet playing in the back ground? Heck I am even worried about 72 deg. water at silver glen next weekend. That why I am worthy of the handle "Hasbeen" ------------- hasbeenskier |
Posted By: p/allen
Date Posted: February-08-2009 at 11:27am
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We went for a ride in Mich. one time . By the time we got back to the hotel it was - 30 air temp. We had no idea it was that cold or we would have gotten home sooner . The sleds run great when it is that cold out . ------------- Pat http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w146/72ccfan/100_5977-1.jpg - My 72 Skier Rock River Dixon,ILL. |
Posted By: reidp
Date Posted: February-08-2009 at 11:41am
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When I lived up North, in a previous life, my snowmobile had a Hemi, or was that a Cobra Jet?! Anyway, the speedometer wrapped around three times so no telling how fast it would go. Actually "North" Carolina is almost too far north for me. I'm gradually coming down with jbearitis, and I hear when you get older, there is no cure.
We actually had a dusting of snow here last Weds and it's supposed to be 68-70 degrees here today. ------------- ReidP /diaries/details.asp?ID=231&yrstart=1971&yrend=1975 - 1973 Mustang |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: February-08-2009 at 12:26pm
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It's been cold up in the north this winter. We didn't get our annual January thaw and we've had a lot of mornings well below zero. Cabin fever is setting in. But, we are not as cold as up in "The County" where they say they have 6 months of winter and 6 months of poor sleddin. ------------- |
Posted By: jbear
Date Posted: February-08-2009 at 5:16pm
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Thanks Reid, Pete and bj...you guys got my back.
'Course now that I think about it...we are all kinda in the same place...age-wise. Definatly I got a "warm climate attitude"...had to turn the furnance on this week when the temps went in the 50's. john ------------- "Loud pipes save lives" AdamT sez "I'm Canadian and a beaver lover myself"... |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: February-08-2009 at 6:22pm
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John,
Steve and I (don't know about BJ - his B date isn't in his profile!) can get away with giving you a hard time about the age since we're all in the same boat 51, 52, 54 and ?. I don't know about Reid though. He's the kid in the group being born in 58!!!! ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: hasbeenskier
Date Posted: February-08-2009 at 7:00pm
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Pete,
It is 2/16/55 Meet me in Astor next weekend and lets have some cake! ------------- hasbeenskier |
Posted By: jbear
Date Posted: February-08-2009 at 7:05pm
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I bet Pete would come if he could! Are you really gonna put that beautiful boat in the water bj?
See Pete...we are all in the same boat..well Reid is kinda young for our group. john ------------- "Loud pipes save lives" AdamT sez "I'm Canadian and a beaver lover myself"... |
Posted By: 05 210
Date Posted: February-08-2009 at 7:37pm
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The new Yamaha four strokes (1000cc-150hp) will hit close to 130 in the right conditions.Most of the big 800 twins are done around 108-110mph. Maybe Phil(lfskizzer) will chime in on this.His dad just got a new Arctic Cat Z1 turbo 170HP.....I'm curious if he's rung that out yet. I'm more of a deep snow backcountry guy now, I got tired of meeting guys in corners at 80mph that can't stay on their side of the trail
Mike ------------- http:/diaries/details.asp?ID=2219" rel="nofollow - Air Nautique 210 Team 640 hours, not 1 regret |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: February-08-2009 at 7:55pm
Well, we sure have come a long way. I started on one of these:
The worst was getting them slushed in on a lake. You needed several large men to get them out due to the weight. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: 05 210
Date Posted: February-08-2009 at 9:05pm
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^^^^^^^^^ that's cool Pete! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
You still got it? I see the carb throat is aimed strategically at the rider so you smelled like a gas can after riding it all day! Mike ------------- http:/diaries/details.asp?ID=2219" rel="nofollow - Air Nautique 210 Team 640 hours, not 1 regret |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: February-08-2009 at 9:14pm
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Pete, the only one I've ever driven was an old yellow SkiDoo that was similar to that. I think the top speed was 35. ------------- |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: February-08-2009 at 10:21pm
All the early sleds had the carb intakes pointing at the driver. When the racing sleds started to use jack shafts allowing the engine to move forward and lay down lowering the center of gravity it put the carbs up under the shroud. Then of course, it caught on with the regular trail type sleds. Yes, the carb intake in the drivers crotch was a problem. One of the hot upgrades was to remove the choke plate and shaft reducing it's restriction and then replace the intake grill with a aluminum venturi. With the solid aluminum venturi strategically located, it wasn't long before someone came out with one made out of rubber!!! The other problem is they did suck things like scarves up in them. No, I don't have it anymore. Wish I did as there is quite a following of old sleds. They even race the old ones in there own classes. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: 75 Tique
Date Posted: February-08-2009 at 10:37pm
Pete, once again, we are about the same vintage. We started out with one of these in the mid 60s (not ours... a google pic I found) 
Don't remember the HP but as I recall, about 40 MPH was a big deal. A year or two later Ski-Doo came out with their TNT... that was the hot machine of the day. Talking about the air intake. Ours had a little plastic horn that opened up toward your crotch. That broke so my dad replaced it with an aluminum one. You knew it when you collided with that one. Our neighbors had an evinrude like yours. Had reverse, a pretty big deal, but you're right, it weighed a ton. ------------- _____________ “So, how was your weekend?” “Well, let me see…sun burn, stiff neck, screwed up back, assorted aches and pains….yup, my weekend was great, thanks for asking.” |
Posted By: 62 wood
Date Posted: February-09-2009 at 1:36am
You know Reid, I thought in some of the pictures I saw of you that were taken this summer something was changing...I just couldnt put my finger on it..... til you explained your condition.. "jbearitis"... Now I understand...
http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2659417720103439384GoCoZR">  ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1117&sort=&pagenum=6" rel="nofollow - 64 American Skier 62 Classic.. 73 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: jbear
Date Posted: February-09-2009 at 2:53am
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Wow...that picture is scary.
john ------------- "Loud pipes save lives" AdamT sez "I'm Canadian and a beaver lover myself"... |
Posted By: adamt
Date Posted: February-09-2009 at 3:26am
PeteB won't be attending, the time-release door on his Y2K bunker he's presently in, waiting out the winter, is set for sometime in late March! ------------- -Adam 1973 Skier |
Posted By: 75 stang
Date Posted: February-09-2009 at 10:13am
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I remember when 440's were the big sleds. Had a lot of old Rupp's in the late 70's and early 80's and one old Bolens 440 that would touch 100 across the lake before the water cooled sleds came out and took over the game. ------------- Take your work seriously, not yourself. http://s133.photobucket.com/albums/q70/Bigblockbandit/Lake%20and%20boats/ - Boat Pics |
Posted By: h20loo
Date Posted: February-09-2009 at 1:03pm
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Ha! I still have my old Rupp grass racer(Jbears kind of sport-hot and loud) up in the rafters above the shop. I haven't seen it in probably three years and haven't run it in over 15. The last time we ran the Rupp was across 200 yds of open water at Sauble Beach.
My first machine was a 399 Nordic and a pocket full of plugs.When we got married we bought a new Blizzard 9500 and a Citation SS. Those machines hold memories to us like the early Mustangs and Nautiques do for most of you. Today I run a GSX 4Tec and my wife has a Fan and they are pretty sweet but that Rupp was scarey. 100 mph today is just part of a run. The way these machines handle and ride and cost I doubt that I will ever replace them. I honestly never get cold when we are out. Hand heaters, bum heaters liquid heaters and dress appropriatly- I find I sweat just as much skidooing as summer 4 wheelin'. I have a client coming in from Arizona today and I plan on taking him out for an afternoon of riding for our meeting. Tough day eh!! ------------- 70 Mustang project |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: February-09-2009 at 2:02pm
Larry, The 65 Evenrude was my dads. I worked and saved and saved and bought my own sled which was the 399 TNT! Yup, the hottest thing going in the day! I of course wanted the 699 but glad I didn't get it. They were horizontally opposed and compression on both cylinders at the same time to cancell out vibration. I had a friend with one and even though he was big, he had a hard time pulling it over - no compression release!! ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: backfoot100
Date Posted: February-09-2009 at 2:49pm
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My father-in-law owned two different small full service gas stations that I helped him at on weekends for about 20 years until he retired and sold them. He sold Allouette, Fox Trac, Scorpion and finally Polaris sleds since they were practically first invented. I had a number of different sleds through the years. The last one I owned was a 91 Polaris 500SP. I bought it brand new and immediately tore it down and had the motor ported and the carbs overbored and then put twin pipes on it. Got gunned at 117 with it. I could hang with any 650 out there at the time. We routinely went riding in northern WI and MN.
Up in Bimidgi, MN one trip we left the hotel at 6AM and it was -35 degrees. We got back at 7PM with 375 miles logged and the temperature never got above -25 the whole day. Great times, but I don't miss the sleds at all. Much happier now. ------------- When people run down to the lake to see what's making that noise, you've succeeded. Eddie |
Posted By: 62 wood
Date Posted: February-09-2009 at 9:48pm
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Eddie,
All the obsolete sleds...only the "big P" is still around out of that group.... there are 4 main sled manufacturers still around, however I dont think any of them are doing great on sales the last few years... maybe the 10G price to get a hi-po sled is part of the problem? how long has it been since you've ridden? ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1117&sort=&pagenum=6" rel="nofollow - 64 American Skier 62 Classic.. 73 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: peter1234
Date Posted: February-09-2009 at 9:56pm
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last winter we were all dragging on lake ossipee my mxz will hit 110 when i touched on that( fast enough) my 16 yr old blew by me like i was standing still . the jerk had his best friend on the back
I could have killed him. does anyone remember how hot sachs motors were? i had a 440 that was so precious to me when the track broke i used pliers to get the motor off, jumped on the back of my buddies sled and it was all that returned that night. we passed that enginless sled for yrs in the woods and always smiled ------------- former skylark owner now a formula but I cant let this place go |
Posted By: jbear
Date Posted: February-10-2009 at 1:08am
Well...I am much happier you ain't up there too. john ------------- "Loud pipes save lives" AdamT sez "I'm Canadian and a beaver lover myself"... |
Posted By: backfoot100
Date Posted: February-10-2009 at 12:24pm
Yeah Steve, he sold each brand until they went bust then just moved on to the next one. He may have sold Rupp for a while too. He'd been selling Polaris since Scorpion folded in the early to mid-80's I believe. My Scorpion Sidewinder was a '81 or '82 I believe and that was one of the last years that Scorpion was around. I owned three different Polaris machines. They were pretty awesome. My SP was a screamer and I had reworked the suspension with Fox gas shocks in addition to the engine work so the handling and ride were just incredible. I can only imagine what the performance is like now on the new machines. The last year I rode was 92. It was just getting to be so expensive. I rode with a bunch of guys who were very hard aggressive riders and we averaged 300 miles/day. When you run like that, there's no time to be sitting in the bars until we were back at the hotel at days end. Then we lit it up though!!!! The only places that were good riding were northern WI or MN. The travel time to northern WI or the UP was 4 to 6 hrs. and every trip to MN was at least 12 hrs. The only time it paid was to take at least a four day weekend. By the time you paid for lodging, food, gas and of course the bar, we figured it cost about $100/day (then). That was after I dropped $8K on the sled and the upgrades. Just couldn't afford that while the family was sitting at home. Got rid of it, bought the boat and never looked back. The family time and memories far outweigh the sled trips. Whoever said owning a boat was like throwing money into an open hole in the water never owned a Hi-Po sled. I'll take the boat expenses any day. ------------- When people run down to the lake to see what's making that noise, you've succeeded. Eddie |
Posted By: 05 210
Date Posted: February-10-2009 at 12:39pm
You must have b@lls o' steel Eddie. I have done a few 400 mile days myself,but never in temps below 15-20 degrees. Sounds like you rode the same way we did, if you didn't go at least 250 miles it was an off day! I tell people now that even at $10k,buying the sled is the cheap part.It's all the crap that goes with it that will add up on you. Trailer,gas travelling, good gear ,etc..... I'll take a boat anyday. The last saddlebag trip I took was to the Gaspe Penninsula in Quebec and we rode just under 1400 miles in 4 days,... but it was 40 degrees .
Mike ------------- http:/diaries/details.asp?ID=2219" rel="nofollow - Air Nautique 210 Team 640 hours, not 1 regret |
Posted By: 62 wood
Date Posted: February-10-2009 at 2:10pm
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The only way I can afford the sleds is to buy from "distressed" situations... usually late winter/early spring, when the guy that bought the sled last fall realizes he still has to make payments on it thru the summer.
The '02 Viper Im currently riding came with the invoice.... over $8600 delivered. I bought the sled 3 months old and paid $4200 with 1100 miles on the clock and two years of warranty left. Had a buyer for my 97 700sx at $2900, so actual cash to upgrade not that big a deal. I dont ride that much anymore, just a way to get out of the house in the winter. btw, predicted record high, 65 today! .... man gets me in the fever for the boat... BUT, snow again this weekend. reality check  ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1117&sort=&pagenum=6" rel="nofollow - 64 American Skier 62 Classic.. 73 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: Mojo
Date Posted: February-10-2009 at 7:26pm
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Steve,
We put on about 300 miles in Minoqua(sp), two weekends ago.. Temps were in the teens. I sweat my ass off keeping that sled upright. I wish it was colder... We were running Yamaha 700's non picked.. Boy did those this suck in the corners while braking.... Fun times.. No one was there though.. Superbowl weekend and we had the whole place to ourselves... Moj' ------------- 05' SV211 TE 73' Martinique had:96' SNOB had:76' Nautique had 77 Tique |
Posted By: backfoot100
Date Posted: February-10-2009 at 7:51pm
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Moj,
That's exactly what it was like every time I rode. The colder the better. I got off the machine and was sweatin' like crazy. I just had to put my handwarmers on the first 30 miles or so just to take the chill off. Once you started running pretty close to the envelope, you needed all you had just to keep the shiny side up. That was just the way we rode. Had to admit, that really cold weekend, when you really leaned into a turn anything over 50MPH that initial air blast out from behind the windshield definitely got your attention! Man, the sleds run so good when it's that cold! Had to make sure that you changed the jets so you didn't burn it down. Definitely the worst part of that whole day. Changing jets at 5AM when it's -35 out! Now that did suck. ------------- When people run down to the lake to see what's making that noise, you've succeeded. Eddie |
Posted By: Mojo
Date Posted: February-10-2009 at 8:20pm
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Exactly, hand warmers went on for ten minutes then off until the next time you stopped for a beer.. Soaked and exhausted by the end of the day, but what a great time in the cold for sure...
Moj' ------------- 05' SV211 TE 73' Martinique had:96' SNOB had:76' Nautique had 77 Tique |
Posted By: p/allen
Date Posted: February-11-2009 at 10:38pm
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Supposed to get 4 to 8 inches Friday night . ------------- Pat http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w146/72ccfan/100_5977-1.jpg - My 72 Skier Rock River Dixon,ILL. |
Posted By: tullfooter
Date Posted: February-12-2009 at 12:21am
That's what she said! ------------- Play hard, life's not a trial run. '85 BFN '90 BFN White Lake, Michigan |