new/old 69sn
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Printed Date: October-18-2024 at 6:21am
Topic: new/old 69sn
Posted By: todd johnson
Subject: new/old 69sn
Date Posted: March-05-2009 at 8:07pm
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Brought home a 69 sn last night. I'm going to
get some parts from her for my 70 sn. Then not sure what Im going to do??? If the need is great enough I'll part it out. If not mabey I'll start a restore. Anyway here are some pictures. She's in rough shape, but enjoy. Any comments on the glass are welcome. 
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Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: March-05-2009 at 8:12pm
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Looks like the boat is pretty complete. Its a shame to see it parted out rather than restored. ------------- |
Posted By: WakeSlayer
Date Posted: March-05-2009 at 8:33pm
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I agree with Tim. Shame to waste.
However, if you decide to part out, I need some stuff for my 68 project. ------------- Mike N 1968 Mustang |
Posted By: todd johnson
Date Posted: March-05-2009 at 11:47pm
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Mike, what are you looking for? I'm mostly
useing detail peaces and gauges. no motor stuff. Let me know. |
Posted By: JMurph
Date Posted: March-06-2009 at 12:47am
I'm curious what you guys would do to restore this type of decay? Are you talking grind down and regel the whole hull or possibly the deck to? ------------- |
todd johnson wrote:Posted By: JMurph
Date Posted: March-06-2009 at 12:49am
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A followup question: If you did decide the redo the gelcoat, is that a backyard job or would you definitely need a paint shop quality environment? ------------- |
Posted By: todd johnson
Date Posted: March-06-2009 at 1:11am
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I've never done any gelcoat work before, but
I would think you would need to grind or sand the top layer of gel off. the glass would be ok. I think? And to answer your 2nd ques. I would say the amount of dust that would be created from this undertaking, you would want to be outside. Luckly its only on the bottom 1/4 of the boat and the whole underside. The deck is in fairly good condition. Only one spot there in the rear. I'm doing some repair of the gelcoat on my 70 sn, so I'm hoping to get a crash corse. I have a good friend that dose boat glass and gel repair for a living, so I will know what it will take vary soon. |
Posted By: WakeSlayer
Date Posted: March-06-2009 at 2:32am
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I need the dash logo more than anything. Gauges and such would be nice, and I like that gauge panel. Depending upon what you use. I will look at mine this weekend to verify what my panel is. Maybe the horn and sight glass. Let me know.
thanks Mike Curious on the gel opinions, too. Mine is not as bad as that, but not super good either. ------------- Mike N 1968 Mustang |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: March-06-2009 at 10:25am
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Todd,
You're correct that the boat would need a gel job - hull and deck. I wouldn't take a chance on doing a partial removal. The deck of theses older Nautiques have another issue too. The raised section from the stem to the windshield may have a wood filler in it! These are known to have rot problems. Is the raised part firm or can does it flex when you push down on it? Getting the old gel off will be dusty if you grind. There are devices made to remove it that are similar to paint strippers with carbide cutters but are pricy. Gary (farmer) made his own out of a grider by making a head with carbide inserts and a means of depth control. He posted a tread on it but the last time I checked the pictures had been removed. "Machining" it off isn't as dusty. If you do decide on doing this, do plan on flipping the hull. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: March-06-2009 at 10:51am
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I agree that it appears all there and a shame not to see it restored, but you'd really have to love that boat to deal with the fiberglass.
I'd be interested in some parts if you part it out. ------------- |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: March-06-2009 at 11:54am
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Personally, Id probably leave the gel as-is unless I was going for a showroom restore. Its really amazing how much less visible the cracking becomes after you smooth the surface by wetsanding and buffing. I doubt many people noticed the large section on the bow of my '90 that has gel damage.
Before pic: 
I still hate to see the boat parted out, but as long as the feeding frenzy has begun, Id likely be interested in the motorbox, rope clearance bar, steering wheel and sight glass. The sight glass doesnt have to be pretty- Id take your old one if you have it, Mike. I know of someone who could use the motor, too. Todd, shoot me an email if you decide to part out: TRBenj@gmail.com ------------- |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: March-06-2009 at 12:30pm
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Dang Tim, why'd you have to point out the imperfections on that perfect boat of yours.
I'd like the chocks, step plates, gas fill and horn. But Todd, first take some simple green and a brush, and then some compound and fool with the hull before you decide to part it out. You may find you love her after she's cleaned up. ------------- |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: March-06-2009 at 1:50pm
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Ha, thanks Bruce but its far from perfect- Ive got it shined up half way decent, but its a workhorse!
A little road trip to Maryland to grab some parts for us northeast guys wouldnt be out of the question if Todd decides not to restore the boat. ------------- |
Posted By: kapla
Date Posted: March-06-2009 at 2:14pm
tim i'd like to see the after pic as I also have some spider cracks on the same area of the bow but on the passengers side... PO hitted a boat... It was repaired but cracks showed again... what can I use to polish and buff?.. ------------- <a href="">1992 ski nautique |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: March-06-2009 at 2:37pm
Sebastian, I dont have any great "after" pics- its tough to capture the difference with a camera. This is the best Ive got:
The damage is still visible, but you have to be up close to notice. When I bought the boat, the damage was obvious enough that I was getting quotes to have it repaired. After buffing the deck out, it became much less noticeable- so I currently have no plans to fix it. Its just not worth the time or effort since you can barely see it. I used the same sand and buff procedure on it that I used on the rest of the deck (and several other boats since). Check out the http://www.correctcraftfan.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4721&PN=2 - buffing gelcoat thread in the Common Questions forum. ------------- |
Posted By: RainDog
Date Posted: March-06-2009 at 2:47pm
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If the trailer becomes available, I'd like to talk to you about it. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1868&sort=&pagenum=1 - 62 Classic http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5242&sort=&pagenum=1 - 2002 Super Air |
Posted By: kapla
Date Posted: March-06-2009 at 2:56pm
nice post there... a task for the winter along with a carb resto and new exhaust and riser gaskets...------------- <a href="">1992 ski nautique |
Posted By: todd johnson
Date Posted: March-06-2009 at 3:10pm
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I wish it would be as easy as some light
sanding, and buffing. But the gelcoat on this boat is badly cracked!! I can put my finger- nail in almost all the cracks. Some are even starting to peel away from the surface, this would really need a new gelcoat. 
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Posted By: kapla
Date Posted: March-06-2009 at 3:26pm
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arenīt those cracks sign of weak stringers? or is just the gelcote damage due to leaving the boat at open air..sun rain...snow..etc... ------------- <a href="">1992 ski nautique |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: March-06-2009 at 3:28pm
Todd, I feel what Tim is saying is the deck may be salvageable and it could be wet sanded and buffed out. However, as mentioned, do check for soft spots in the raised sections of the bow deck that would indicate possible rot. Defiantly the hull gel is gone!! ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: Mojo
Date Posted: March-06-2009 at 3:29pm
Looks like a nice bar to me...  ------------- 05' SV211 TE 73' Martinique had:96' SNOB had:76' Nautique had 77 Tique |
Posted By: kapla
Date Posted: March-06-2009 at 3:40pm
yaep but it's also hard to get that transom shinny.....  ------------- <a href="">1992 ski nautique |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: March-06-2009 at 3:53pm
I was actually commenting on the whole thing- but after seeing those pics of the hull with the gel flaking off, youre probably right Pete- hull gel is toast. Unless youre up for a lot of labor hours, Mojo might be right- that hull might be best used as a bar. 
I might be up for a trip to MD and could bring back everything minus what you strip off for your Inca Gold SN. Bruce can have his misc parts, Ill take the few I want, I can ship Mike what he needs for his '68 and Steve can pick up the trailer at LG09.  Shoot me an email.------------- |
Posted By: WakeSlayer
Date Posted: March-06-2009 at 4:16pm
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Later this Spring I will get some shots of the 68 hull and see what you guys opinion is. My goal is to completely re-do, but was kind of planning on painting. Maybe that will not be an option. ------------- Mike N 1968 Mustang |
Posted By: WakeSlayer
Date Posted: March-06-2009 at 5:07pm
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Alright. This is ridiculous. I have not even been done with the Mustang for a week yet, and I am outside tromping through the snow to look at the Nautique. Sick, sick, sick.
My gauge panel is different, same as the Mustang which makes sense as both are 68's. So I am good on that. My motor box is junk, so if that is available that would be a huge improvement over what I have. As mentioned above I would really love to get a dash logo as I definitely do not have that. That is, of course, if you are not using it. The gel is not nearly as bad as I recall as a whole but a couple spots are pretty bad. I have a few questions about the motor. It is the 318. What in the heck is a 318 Poly? I seem to have two different exhaust manifolds. The port is more egg shaped and says Chrysler on the side, and the starboard appears to be just like Todd's above. I cannot see the port in the photo but it also looks different. Is this correct? With respect to the sight glass, the Nautique actually does not have one. Nor a spot for it. The Mustang has a spot for one, but the hole is capped from the bottom. and gelled. They would not have drilled the hole and not installed one, I would hope. I have one spotted for that boat so i guess I would not need that, afterall. My wife may kill me soon. Mike PS: Todd, look what you started. that thing is parted down and getting bolted to your wall already. ------------- Mike N 1968 Mustang |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: March-06-2009 at 6:35pm
Leave it to Dave to always have the 3 B's on his mind: Bars, Babes and Boats and not necessarily in that order!! It was his idea to meet at Hooters the other evening and of course the main topic was boats! ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: RainDog
Date Posted: March-06-2009 at 7:10pm
Wow Tim, very generous of you to bring the trailer to GL. You are a hell of a guy... ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1868&sort=&pagenum=1 - 62 Classic http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5242&sort=&pagenum=1 - 2002 Super Air |
Posted By: JMurph
Date Posted: March-07-2009 at 12:36am
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Todd,
I didn't notice that you are on the West River in Maryland. You're right up the street from me. I'm over in Crofton and have an office in Annapolis. Do you run that 1970 of yours in the salt waters around here? I would be surprised, because it looks like its in great shape in the pictures. -John ------------- |
Posted By: 62 wood
Date Posted: March-07-2009 at 1:06am
Mike, The "Poly" "A" block 318 was made til around 1966 and is the predecessor to the "LA" (light A) 318 that most everyone knew of in the late 60's. Im not a Mopar guy, but I think the LA was made well into the 90's They do share some common parts, but I dont think the exhaust manifolds are interchangeable. The heads are completely different...even to the point of intake/exhaust valve configuration. The poly is most noted for the "saw-tooth" bottom shape of the valve covers. Hope this helps? ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1117&sort=&pagenum=6" rel="nofollow - 64 American Skier 62 Classic.. 73 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: storm34
Date Posted: March-07-2009 at 1:49am
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Isn't CCF awesome?! Todd, What a great find! Is that the boat thats in the diaries?
I love watching to see what happens to all these great boats....Some call 'em part boats...I like to think of them as Donor Boats! ------------- |
Posted By: todd johnson
Date Posted: March-07-2009 at 7:03pm
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OK I;m going to part the boat. Some of the
parts are spoken for by me .I'm going to put an offical parts list up with prices on the parts for sale thread. Give me a few days to get all the parts togather and I'll post pictures as well. A few of you I have already contacted about parts, you know who you are. Thanks TJ. |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: March-07-2009 at 8:16pm
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Todd, if not already spoken for I'm interested in the scoops on the rear deck. Thanks ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: clarkebar
Date Posted: March-08-2009 at 6:44pm
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Todd ,
If you part out the boat I am very interested in the correct craft emblems as well as the cleats,lifting eyes and morse controls. Was this the boat in Atlanta that was forsale? Thanks eric |
Posted By: todd johnson
Date Posted: March-08-2009 at 11:23pm
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Eric shoot me an email and we will talk about
whats left. tj@areacorp.net |
Posted By: todd johnson
Date Posted: March-08-2009 at 11:36pm
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I haven't had a chance to post a list on parts for sale, and I don't see any need to at this point. lots of you have contacted me via email and we have worked some stuff out. You all know how you are. Give me some time and I'll post what parts dont sell in few days. |
Posted By: storm34
Date Posted: March-10-2009 at 11:07am
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Is there a Pylon? Don't see one in the pictures. If there is I might be interested! ------------- |