Gas leak 72 cc Skier
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Printed Date: November-17-2024 at 5:15pm
Topic: Gas leak 72 cc Skier
Posted By: jborzak
Subject: Gas leak 72 cc Skier
Date Posted: June-08-2009 at 10:08am
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My 72 Skier has a gas leak. I can't seem to find it, I dry out the area under the motor and the gas returns. I think its the gas tank nothing else should leak without the motor running. Also it would leak more under pressure. Any one have an idea how to check the tank for leaks? Where can I get a tank? Will the tank come out easy? ------------- 1972 CC Skier 2004 CC Super Sport 210 |
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Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: June-08-2009 at 10:53am
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JB,
Are you sure it only leaks when sitting? How much gas are you seeing? It could also be the fuel line running up to the fuel pump or even the pump itself. On a 72, I'm not sure if they had started to use anti-siphon valves at the tank yet? Without one, you could be getting quite alot of gas. Get some paper towel and go after the bottm of the tank and then all the way up to the fuel pump. Is there a fuel shut off in the line running up to the pump? Could be the stem packing in it too. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: jborzak
Date Posted: June-08-2009 at 10:59am
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Sorry I stated that wrong, it leaks all the time. I meant its not on the pressure side. Not sure about anti-siphon, its vented of course. No fuel shut off. Obviously the hose would be cheaper and easier then a tank. Off to search. ------------- 1972 CC Skier 2004 CC Super Sport 210 |
Posted By: jborzak
Date Posted: June-08-2009 at 11:47am
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"Correct Craft boats since 1972 are equipped with an anti-siphon valve" from CC. I tried with paper towel no luck. Its a very small annoying leak, I mean an oz or two while sitting in driveway overnight. The smell is hugh but that doesn't take much. The trail seems to be from the stern to the sump area. ------------- 1972 CC Skier 2004 CC Super Sport 210 |
Posted By: 62 wood
Date Posted: June-08-2009 at 12:36pm
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First off, you probably know this, but I would not run the boat til you fix the problem.
How long have you owned the boat? Personally ,with a boat that age, I would inspect every inch of the feul system, including pulling the tank. Thats how I found a cracked fitting in the fuel pickup tube on my 64. You might be able to get an idea of where the leak is by pressurizing the tank thru the filler inlet. Just dont use a lot of pressure. A little time invested now could save some big problems later! ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1117&sort=&pagenum=6" rel="nofollow - 64 American Skier 62 Classic.. 73 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: Tim D
Date Posted: June-08-2009 at 12:49pm
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I bet the epoxy is worn off the bottom of the tank where it sits on the stringers and a pin hole has rusted through and the foam is full of gas. ------------- Tim D |
Posted By: jborzak
Date Posted: June-08-2009 at 3:00pm
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I've owned the boat 8 years and have inspected most all of it. Pulling the tank is sounding like the only option. ------------- 1972 CC Skier 2004 CC Super Sport 210 |
Posted By: jborzak
Date Posted: June-08-2009 at 3:45pm
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After reading about the epoxy wearing wearing off near the stringers I went and checked. Its wet at the base below the filler side.
OK now can that be fixed? If so how? ------------- 1972 CC Skier 2004 CC Super Sport 210 |
Posted By: 62 wood
Date Posted: June-08-2009 at 3:57pm
I think its time... Not sure on that style hull, but, I've got mine down to about a 15 or 20 minute job. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1117&sort=&pagenum=6" rel="nofollow - 64 American Skier 62 Classic.. 73 Ski Nautique |
jborzak wrote:Posted By: jborzak
Date Posted: June-08-2009 at 4:44pm
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Found my leak, end cap tank piece. It looks like it needs a real repair shop. Know of any around Lake Lanier Georgia ------------- 1972 CC Skier 2004 CC Super Sport 210 |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: June-08-2009 at 4:52pm
It's ether a new tank or repair the old. New plastic tanks are available but the filler necks aren't in the same location. Some have done it by plumbing changes but there's not much room under the deck of a 70's style hull. New aluminums can be fabricated but that's the expensive route. Do you have a radiator shop in your area? They typically repair tanks besides radiators. They are the ones who will have the hot tank to really boil out the inside. It may be just adding a patch and then coating the inside of the tank. Steve (62wood above) is currently going through a coating problem with his but, it doesn't sound like it was done professionally. I know lots of the wood boat owners have had very good success with repairing old tanks. If you do go that route or the aluminum replacement and the leak is from rubbing on a stringer, make sure you get a layer of rubber under the tank. The tank needs to be strapped down real good so it can't move. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: jborzak
Date Posted: June-08-2009 at 5:10pm
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I did that fix epoxy and seal lining on a CB750 gas tank and really wasn't pleased. I'm sure someone in the still repairs radiators and tanks.
The was on two long boars side to side then some foam underneath and two short boards used to clamp and hold it at the sides. Just guessing but I think it may have been a water sip or gas into the area, there is rust on that seem side. ------------- 1972 CC Skier 2004 CC Super Sport 210 |
Posted By: BuffaloBFN
Date Posted: June-08-2009 at 5:21pm
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Gainesville radiator has done nice work for me at a very reasonable price. I haven't used them in a while, but they were family owned and quality oriented last time I did.
If you take your tank to them, you'll be within 15 mins from here. Stop by and swap a few stories with us! ------------- http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=2331&sort=&pagenum=12&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - 1988 BFN-sold "It's a Livin' Thing...What a Terrible Thing to Lose" ELO |
Posted By: BuffaloBFN
Date Posted: June-08-2009 at 5:23pm
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FWIW-Because of the chicken industry here, there are also several aluminum fabricators here who might be looking for work. ------------- http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=2331&sort=&pagenum=12&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - 1988 BFN-sold "It's a Livin' Thing...What a Terrible Thing to Lose" ELO |
Posted By: jborzak
Date Posted: June-08-2009 at 5:40pm
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I'll give them a call. It seems I either have to go to Gainesville or toward Atlanta and use Sims ------------- 1972 CC Skier 2004 CC Super Sport 210 |
Posted By: jborzak
Date Posted: June-08-2009 at 5:54pm
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I'll have to stop by when I go to Gainesville, I'm pretty sure we met at the Masters this year. ------------- 1972 CC Skier 2004 CC Super Sport 210 |
Posted By: BuffaloBFN
Date Posted: June-08-2009 at 5:58pm
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I met so many people I won't brave your name...green shirt? ------------- http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=2331&sort=&pagenum=12&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - 1988 BFN-sold "It's a Livin' Thing...What a Terrible Thing to Lose" ELO |
Posted By: jborzak
Date Posted: June-08-2009 at 6:18pm
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Hundreds of green shirts thanks to Mon A Vie. Neither remember what I wear, 100's of pictures but none of me. Probably orange or grey. It was a good time until the old CCSN wouldn't run in the parade.
Some shots of the parade: http://www.me.com/gallery/#100040 ------------- 1972 CC Skier 2004 CC Super Sport 210 |
Posted By: 62 wood
Date Posted: June-08-2009 at 8:28pm
Probably not the best situation, but until I find a replacement tank, I ended up cutting the top of of my tank with a 3" cut off wheel, and opening it like a suitcase. I removed all the old liner,then had my son (who welds for a living) welded it back shut. When we pressure checked it, there were a couple of pin-holes in the welds, which we expected, so I installed a new "Red-Kote" liner in it last night. That should seal it just fine. But for safety, Im now going to put a layer of tank- epoxy on the culprit weld area. You sure couldnt afford to pay someone profesional to do this whole process... probably have 7 or 8 hours of time in it.  ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1117&sort=&pagenum=6" rel="nofollow - 64 American Skier 62 Classic.. 73 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: jborzak
Date Posted: June-09-2009 at 9:39am
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One of the shops around here quoted $85 to clean it and real seal. Fair price I think ------------- 1972 CC Skier 2004 CC Super Sport 210 |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: June-09-2009 at 9:48am
Greg, What do the aluminum guys do for chickens? Cages? ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: BuffaloBFN
Date Posted: June-09-2009 at 9:52am
The 'de-assembly' lines are all stainless and aluminum. Did you see the Tim Allen man's kitchen? It's a very wet environment and meant to be washed down ceiling to floor with super high pressure, super hot water. The first time I heard the pump spool up, I was sure it was going to fly apart! It's been a long time, but I think I remember 22,000 rpms? ------------- http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=2331&sort=&pagenum=12&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - 1988 BFN-sold "It's a Livin' Thing...What a Terrible Thing to Lose" ELO |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: June-09-2009 at 2:08pm
I like the tackful word "de assembly" Greg  ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: Tim D
Date Posted: June-10-2009 at 2:11am
I replaced mine several years ago with a plastic tempo tank. The only thing in a different location was the air vent, just needed a longer hose. Here's a pic with the old and new side by side. I don't think Tempo makes that tank any more.
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Posted By: 62 wood
Date Posted: June-10-2009 at 3:21am
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Tim,
Tempo is no more... I tried to call them a week ago. Last year they were purchased by Moeller, who also makes plastic fuel tanks. Looks like they arent making the Tempo tank configurations tho. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1117&sort=&pagenum=6" rel="nofollow - 64 American Skier 62 Classic.. 73 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: jborzak
Date Posted: June-10-2009 at 3:48am
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I contacted Temp/Moeller because it appears to be the same tank. Have not heard back. Has to be more expensive then the fix ------------- 1972 CC Skier 2004 CC Super Sport 210 |
Posted By: 62 wood
Date Posted: June-10-2009 at 4:02am
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Moeller wouldnt even quote me. Said they dont sell direct. .... And, I was just trying to get a part number...
85 bucks is not out of line for the repair. If they are sealing the inside, the Red Kote I used in mine was just short of $25/Qt. When I was looking at Tempo tanks last year for my Higgins, most were in the 150 to 200 buck range. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1117&sort=&pagenum=6" rel="nofollow - 64 American Skier 62 Classic.. 73 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: jborzak
Date Posted: June-11-2009 at 1:06pm
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Well I did find Tempo use to make a tank similar to the one originally made for the boat in plastic but Moeller ruined all that. I tried finding some old stock to no avail. Here is what Moeller said so I don't know why they bought them in the first place.
Good morning, Moeller did acquire some of Tempo's assets however we are not offering their entire line. Moeller has their own roto tanks, so unfortunately this is one of the parts that we do not offer, therefore we do not have the information you are requesting. You may want to take a look at our website to see if you find a tank you would like to use there. Let me know if there is anything else I can help you with. Thanks Joy Sauer Moeller Marine Products ------------- 1972 CC Skier 2004 CC Super Sport 210 |