SN 176
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Printed Date: March-14-2025 at 8:05pm
Topic: SN 176
Posted By: behindpropeller
Subject: SN 176
Date Posted: September-29-2009 at 5:44pm
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Anybody have one of these? Thoughts?
What years were they built? What hull is under the 98 models? Tim ------------- |
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Posted By: kapla
Date Posted: September-29-2009 at 6:07pm
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you can find the info looking on the brochures on the reference section..from that you can find they were introduced on 1997 as the sn176, then in the 1998 model they offered the sn176 and an air version called air tique, and in 1999 only the air tique version was available...
as for the hull no clue... I guess Godfather will know more about them... I recall they were said to have a very good wake for wakeboarding... ------------- <a href="">1992 ski nautique |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: September-29-2009 at 6:08pm
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I dont have one, but Ive been in and driven Kyle's (66Skylark) 176. He's got the GT40- its a quick little boat! Flirting with 50 by the Airguides, and I believe it. I didnt ski it, but the wake looks identical to my '90. All the 176's ride on the same hull, which I think is based off the 90-96 Ski Nautique. Its actually surprisingly roomy on the inside. CC shortened up the deck even more than normal to fit everything into a 2' smaller package. You cant get between the motorbox and drivers seat, but it shares the same 91" beam as the larger SN, so Id say it feels roomier than the 2001, at least the longer deck 82-86 version. ------------- |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: September-29-2009 at 6:52pm
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I do have a friend up north that does have a 176. All I know is everyone loves to ski behind it! ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: behindpropeller
Date Posted: September-29-2009 at 7:07pm
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Thanks for the replies so far.
Still looking at upgrading the '86, having a tough time deciding. I love everything about our '86 except for the wood stringers and top deck gel that has some blisters. Don't want to buy anything more than a ski nautique....lots of wakeboard boats for sale. Tim ------------- |
Posted By: Fl Inboards
Date Posted: September-29-2009 at 7:46pm
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What do ya want to know about the 176?
I can tell ya set up with a 11-A tabbed rudder and a GT-40 they are wonderfull ski boats. In My opinion one of if not the finest slalom boats ever built. This was the first computer rendered boat that We Built at Correct Craft. All the original frame stations for the plug came off a computer and then C&C cut on a router. A master Craftsmen tool maker then skined and faired the plug. when one looks a 176 you can see the clean crisp tool work that this man did. I remember that the boat was so good that managament at the time had us de-tune the boat by installing a hand made stainless steel rudder that was way under sized. Down side to the boat is that it has a rather small interrior space. None the less it was ahead of its time as it truly was a wide body boat in comparison to what was built at that time. Also the 176 when weighted made a pretty fair little wakeboard boat. When Ron Scarpa was still with us he had a GT-40 equipped stripped down 176 that he kept even a number of years after he went to Malibu. If you dont mind small interrior space and want the best wakes for overall skiing the 176 is a great little boat! Wish I had one! ------------- Hobby Boats can be expensive when the hobbyist is limited on their own skill and expertise. 1993 Shamrock "fat" 20. 2008 Nautique 196 5.0 |
Posted By: Keith
Date Posted: September-29-2009 at 8:34pm
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That explains the homemade-looking, stainless rudder on Kyle's 176.
------------- Former: /diaries/details.asp?ID=6170" rel="nofollow - 97 Sport Nautique 1994 Ski Nautique 86 Silver Nautique 79 Mustang |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: September-29-2009 at 10:50pm
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I remember taking the 176 in for a rudder change bronze to stainless, and i dont know why but I truly think mine was a 1996, really i did own one but to me back then it was a ski boat and i didnt put much thought into being a CC, it did have a nice wake and i believe they de-tuned those 176's because they really performed well. I too thought it was a baseline boat until I sold it and found it that it was highly sought after, I hated the flat glass but loved the transom corners ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: Luchog
Date Posted: September-29-2009 at 11:35pm
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what was the deal with the rudders? ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=2095" rel="nofollow - 1980 Ski Nautique Commander 351W |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: September-30-2009 at 10:29am
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i think it was part of the de-tuning, it was smaller than the original ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: September-30-2009 at 10:40am
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I'v got a feeling that with the large rudder they would power turn real easy and maybe when you really didn't want to!!
Jody, What's the story?? ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: September-30-2009 at 10:45am
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Sounds like because they didn't want a price point boat that would out preform their flag ship boat. Kyle, sounds like a new rudder is in order for you. ------------- |
Posted By: behindpropeller
Date Posted: September-30-2009 at 1:32pm
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Thanks for the replies.
Sounds like this could be a good replacement for the '86. Also sound like GT-40 heads, cam, and intake could make one of these boats quite a rocket. Add the right rudder and it may be quite a nice boat. If anybody knows of one for sale please drop me a note. Tim ------------- |
Posted By: 75 Tique
Date Posted: September-30-2009 at 1:52pm
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http://nh.craigslist.org/boa/1366051816.html - new hampshire ------------- _____________ “So, how was your weekend?” “Well, let me see…sun burn, stiff neck, screwed up back, assorted aches and pains….yup, my weekend was great, thanks for asking.” |
Posted By: behindpropeller
Date Posted: September-30-2009 at 2:00pm
Contacted that one....no response. ------------- |
75 Tique wrote:Posted By: 66Skylark
Date Posted: September-30-2009 at 2:56pm
Keith - I believe Jody used the term “handmade” not “homemade”… LOL!! 
I love my 176. It is a great little boat, especially with the GT-40! I’m a big guy, but the 176 has plenty of room for me – both behind the wheel and moving around in the boat. I don’t find storage is an issue, but I don’t use the boat much beyond our little lake. With the camp right there I don’t have to worry about keeping equipment in the boat all day. One small storage issue… I’m not sure if 196 owners have this issue, but I have to be careful when I do have skis in the boat. If I lay a ski behind the driver’s seat next to the motor box I have to make sure the fin is directly behind the driver, otherwise the fin would rest on the back seat. Not a big deal, but it does make me nervous that it might tear the vinyl. Of course this isn’t an issue with the back seat out or in the sun pad position. As I’m sure my friends on the site know, I’m about as ‘recreational’ as a skier can get, so I’m afraid I can’t comment on slaloming behind my boat. My idea of slaloming is our Connolly ‘Big Daddy’ ski, or – as my uncle calls it – the ironing board. Brad’s friend Erich slalomed behind my boat at the 07 NE reunion and he had great things to say about the wake. Cheney also skied behind my boat that day, but I’m not sure what she thought of the wake. I have heard that, with some weight in the back, the 176 has a pretty good wake for wakeboarding. I haven’t tried it, but just driving around with a few folks in the back of my boat I can see the wake does indeed look pretty good for wakeboarding. I will say that after running to and from Log Cove on Lake George the 176 does not handle rough water as well as the 196 or the 2001 hulls. I was behind Keith’s dad in Keith’s 1994 196 on the way up and followed Ken and Patricia in their 1986 2001 on the way back and I found that I seemed to bounce around more than they did. (I now know why the newer boats have a pad under the driver’s elbow!) I’m sure, since the bow on the 176 isn’t as ‘pointy’ as the other boats, it can’t cut through the waves as efficiently. Tim is correct, with fairly smooth water and only a couple of people in the boat, I can pin the Airguides at 50. I’d really like to check that on a GPS. Unfortunately I forgot all about the ‘Adirondack Dash’ at LG this year. I saw Tim with the GPS, but figured he was just seeing what the new BF Nautique would do. I didn’t realize I missed out till Keith did the awards at the banquet. Count me in for next year! Last year I noticed ’98 Prototype 176’ handwritten on one of the aluminum brackets that the motor mounts to on my boat. I emailed CC last year with this information as well as hull numbers and asked for any info they had on my 176 or the ’66 Skylark. I tried several times, but I never heard back from anyone. I know Dave (Hendricks) changed jobs around that time so I assumed I was lost in the shuffle. So we’re all on the same page, here are some shots of my rudder… 
Here is a shot of the '98 Prototype 176' written on the bracket... 
Kyle ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1445" rel="nofollow - 1966 Skylark http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1976" rel="nofollow - 1998 176 MA/ |
Posted By: Mark Mel
Date Posted: September-30-2009 at 2:59pm
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At LG we were all looking at that rudder - now we know. ;) ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=972&sort=&pagenum=4&yrstart=1976&yrend=1980" rel="nofollow - 1978 Nautique FBook - www.facebook.com/charliedontsurfct |
Posted By: Fl Inboards
Date Posted: September-30-2009 at 3:22pm
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Why the hand made rudder?
Well like I said the boat turned out to exceed all expectations as far as performance and ski-ability. Managament at the time really wanted the boat for a entry level platform but it became obvious real quick that the little boat was as good or better a Slalom boat then the flagship Ski Nautique. So orders came down the pipe to de-tune it some how so the obvious was to put a smaller rudder on and effectivly make the boat not track and turn nor be as responsive as the Ski Nautique. The rudder was built in house with a plasma cutter and a grinder, welded with a tig unit and cleaned up as best as one could do it with out spending hours on it. Want somthing that has the mack daddy flat wake, low spray and will track better than most all of today's tournament boats. Try a 176 put a 11-A rudder in it! TaDa!  ------------- Hobby Boats can be expensive when the hobbyist is limited on their own skill and expertise. 1993 Shamrock "fat" 20. 2008 Nautique 196 5.0 |
Posted By: storm34
Date Posted: September-30-2009 at 4:13pm
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http://www.correctcraftfan.com/forsale/details.asp?ID=4301 - SN176 ------------- |
Posted By: 05 210
Date Posted: October-01-2009 at 1:11am
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I had a 98 Air Tique 176. Nothing wrong with the wake for boarding.I'd still have it,but with a wife,2 kids and guests (or a couple of fatsacs) it was just too small. It was a sweet boat though. IIRC mine had the bronze rudder. Come to think of it, I don't have one single picture of that boat.
Mike ------------- http:/diaries/details.asp?ID=2219" rel="nofollow - Air Nautique 210 Team 640 hours, not 1 regret |
Posted By: LaurelLakeSkier
Date Posted: October-01-2009 at 1:41am
| I'll throw in another "thumbs up" for the 176. I ski quite a bit with a friend and his wife who have one. It offers a very nice pull for slalom, barefooting and the very basic trick skiing we do. We do notice it is a bit tight on space if we have a bunch of gear and are not wanting to make trips back to the dock. As was mentioned before, the boat does get up and go...... |
Posted By: 66Skylark
Date Posted: October-01-2009 at 12:30pm
Here are a couple of shots of Mike's old Air Tique...
It was a heck of a nice boat! Wish I had that stereo in my 176! Kyle ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1445" rel="nofollow - 1966 Skylark http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1976" rel="nofollow - 1998 176 MA/ |
Posted By: Fl Inboards
Date Posted: October-01-2009 at 12:35pm
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Whats that white stuff in the back ground??? ------------- Hobby Boats can be expensive when the hobbyist is limited on their own skill and expertise. 1993 Shamrock "fat" 20. 2008 Nautique 196 5.0 |
Posted By: behindpropeller
Date Posted: October-01-2009 at 12:49pm
Thats what keeps us gator free in our lakes 
Nice looking 176...wonder if it is for sale? ------------- |
Posted By: 66Skylark
Date Posted: October-01-2009 at 12:57pm
IIRC? Is the correct acronym - If I remember correctly? I also had this shot of the transom... The rudder looks the same as my boat. 
So, for my edification, if I pull my 'handmade' rudder and install a bronze one, like the 196s have, it will do what? Better turning? If I ran the coarse, better tracking as the skier runs the buoys? Is it the shape or size of the bronze rudder that makes the difference? I appreciate the information! Kyle ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1445" rel="nofollow - 1966 Skylark http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1976" rel="nofollow - 1998 176 MA/ |
Posted By: 66Skylark
Date Posted: October-01-2009 at 1:04pm
NECC had it for sale about 4 years ago. I believe he sold it to a woman who had size and hp restrictions on her lake. She had the motor pulled and had a 4 cylinder motor installed. 
------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1445" rel="nofollow - 1966 Skylark http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1976" rel="nofollow - 1998 176 MA/ |
Posted By: behindpropeller
Date Posted: October-01-2009 at 1:06pm
I wonder if she uses it anymore? I would LOVE to buy one of those and drop one of the 343hp motors in it :) Tim ------------- |
Posted By: kapla
Date Posted: October-01-2009 at 2:02pm
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A four banger on a tique..lol sad end for such fine boat... ------------- <a href="">1992 ski nautique |
Posted By: 05 210
Date Posted: October-01-2009 at 3:33pm
Indeed. What do I know? I spent all my time in it, not under it 
Anyway Kyle, it looks like you got my back on the pics. If you don't mind fowarding any shots of that boat to me that you have I would greatly appreciate it. You are correct, the boat went to a restricted lake and the motor was swapped out. I traded it in the fall of 05 and it resold I believe in late spring of 06. It came from Texas and only had 83 hours on it when I bought it in the summer of 05. It was about as close to "mint" (sorry Pete!) as a used boat could get. I believe the boat may be in Connecticut now . Mike ------------- http:/diaries/details.asp?ID=2219" rel="nofollow - Air Nautique 210 Team 640 hours, not 1 regret |
Posted By: 75 Tique
Date Posted: October-01-2009 at 3:59pm
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Tim,
I imagine you've scoured the interwebs as well as anyone but maybe these are obscure enough ads that you missed them. http://classifiedresults.com/1996-ski-nautique-176/ - 176 ad http://southeastnautiques.com/preowned.html?ID=827 - another one ------------- _____________ “So, how was your weekend?” “Well, let me see…sun burn, stiff neck, screwed up back, assorted aches and pains….yup, my weekend was great, thanks for asking.” |
Posted By: Fl Inboards
Date Posted: October-01-2009 at 5:13pm
You mean like our pet Stan? If you put a 11-A bronze rudder in your 176 you will see improvement in steering and tracking. ------------- Hobby Boats can be expensive when the hobbyist is limited on their own skill and expertise. 1993 Shamrock "fat" 20. 2008 Nautique 196 5.0 |
Posted By: kapla
Date Posted: October-01-2009 at 5:28pm
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WTF I wouldn´t swim near one of those for anything in the world..LOL ------------- <a href="">1992 ski nautique |
Posted By: Fl Inboards
Date Posted: October-01-2009 at 8:16pm
Thats the fun part of Skiing here in Florida,,,, You never know when your becoming part of the food chain!!  ------------- Hobby Boats can be expensive when the hobbyist is limited on their own skill and expertise. 1993 Shamrock "fat" 20. 2008 Nautique 196 5.0 |
Posted By: 66Skylark
Date Posted: October-01-2009 at 8:18pm
Mike - I have the shots that Craig sent me and I have some photos I took when I looked at the boat. I can email you the shots Craig sent me. The others I don't have electronically anymore, but I'd be happy to drop them in the mail. Drop me an email @ 66skylark@gmail.com with your address and I'll get them out to you. Kyle Jody - Thanks for all the info on the 176's rudder! ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1445" rel="nofollow - 1966 Skylark http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1976" rel="nofollow - 1998 176 MA/ |
Posted By: 05 210
Date Posted: October-02-2009 at 3:51pm
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thanks Kyle. You've got mail.....
Mike ------------- http:/diaries/details.asp?ID=2219" rel="nofollow - Air Nautique 210 Team 640 hours, not 1 regret |
Posted By: WakeSlayer
Date Posted: October-05-2009 at 10:20pm
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Tim,
Just popped up on PN http://www.planetnautique.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&p=126903#126903 - 1998 176 SN ------------- Mike N 1968 Mustang |
Posted By: behindpropeller
Date Posted: October-05-2009 at 11:29pm
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Damn....another red boat.
I don't want a red boat!!!! GRRRR!!! ------------- |
Posted By: bonuts
Date Posted: October-06-2009 at 12:03am
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I have a '96 SN176 and love it, I've grown up being dragged behind boats and this one is hands down the best one I've ski'd behind (I am no pro by any means) and when we load the boat up it does have a decent wake for wakeboarding behind. As mentioned space is limited, doesn't bother me though.
I would like more info on this rudder upgrade, where do you find the 11-A rudders, and is it a straight swap? bonuts ------------- Terry |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: October-06-2009 at 10:17am
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that would be a rudder down grade, stick with the bronze ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: October-06-2009 at 11:12am
Eric, are you following the discussion? The stock 176 rudder was the SS homemade job posted above. The 11A is the rudder found on most CC's from the mid-70's forwards. All the Ski Nautiques, v-hulls (Southwinds, BFN, etc), Sport Nautiques, etc had/have them. Smaller boats (Mustangs, etc) and some of the newer v-drives are the exceptions. ------------- |
Posted By: Fl Inboards
Date Posted: October-06-2009 at 5:13pm
I have a 11-A rudder out of my 92 I will part with as I put a tabbed 11-A that has been pollished installed. The rudder will go in as a direct replacement. Their is a catch! I want your old SS welded frankenstein rudder for my wall of shame!!!
$50.00 and plus your old SS it is yours! we will just trade out shipping! ------------- Hobby Boats can be expensive when the hobbyist is limited on their own skill and expertise. 1993 Shamrock "fat" 20. 2008 Nautique 196 5.0 |
Posted By: behindpropeller
Date Posted: October-06-2009 at 5:39pm
I will take it if I find a 176 this fall. Waiting on some return emails on a couple of boats. Tim ------------- |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: October-06-2009 at 7:13pm
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my mistake, I thought he wanted to go to the SS backyard model, i didnt realize they labeled the bronze that way. i had alot going on today the Dane's clipped my bank account and added some big time viruses, and the first trip to the dentist office for my 4 year old. fcn Danes
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Posted By: behindpropeller
Date Posted: October-07-2009 at 11:40am
I called this guy on the boat. Sounds like he bought it cheap and gave it a good cleaning and new steering cable and graphics. He wants 13.5K for it. I was considering it until I found http://www.planetnautique.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&p=91286&highlight=#91286 - THIS post. Tim ------------- |
Posted By: hotboat
Date Posted: October-07-2009 at 12:02pm
You wanted one with a junk motor correct? Almost got your wish  ------------- Brian |
Posted By: behindpropeller
Date Posted: October-07-2009 at 12:17pm
I want the junk motor....but I also want the junk motor price ------------- |
Posted By: 05 210
Date Posted: October-07-2009 at 12:28pm
I'd try again. I was talking to Craig about your boat last night and he is under the impression that it was "the" prototype 176/GT40 combo. Apparently there were not many 176's built with that engine.Like less than a dozen. May be some good history to document,if for nothing else good conversation at the next reunion. Maybe Jody can recall some info as well,he was obviously still there around that time. Mike ------------- http:/diaries/details.asp?ID=2219" rel="nofollow - Air Nautique 210 Team 640 hours, not 1 regret |
Posted By: behindpropeller
Date Posted: October-07-2009 at 12:30pm
There is a 176 here in Ohio with a GT-40 in it too. It was Ron's boat when Ron's Marine was selling Nautiques here. Tim ------------- |
Posted By: hotboat
Date Posted: October-07-2009 at 12:41pm
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On onlyinboards.com there appears to be a 96 176 for sale?
http://www.onlyinboards.com/Details.aspx?ID=818045 cleveland $11,500 ------------- Brian |
Posted By: behindpropeller
Date Posted: October-07-2009 at 12:55pm
Small world. That is the one Ron used to own. Turns out the guy is about 5 miles from me. Tim ------------- |
Posted By: hotboat
Date Posted: October-07-2009 at 1:21pm
What gives? It is listed as a 96 and the reference section doesnt show them in 96? Sounds like it was meant to be  ------------- Brian |
Posted By: Fl Inboards
Date Posted: October-07-2009 at 1:48pm
No not prototypes but just options. The 176 had nearly all the options that the Ski Nautique had. Their is one out their with a Python in it! ------------- Hobby Boats can be expensive when the hobbyist is limited on their own skill and expertise. 1993 Shamrock "fat" 20. 2008 Nautique 196 5.0 |
Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: October-07-2009 at 1:55pm
The brochures were often published early, they've missed a couple "new" models over the years. ------------- |
Posted By: 05 210
Date Posted: October-07-2009 at 2:13pm
Que nationwide manhunt about to be conducted by boat enthusiasts in Mass/Ct. and N.C. 
Mike ------------- http:/diaries/details.asp?ID=2219" rel="nofollow - Air Nautique 210 Team 640 hours, not 1 regret |
Posted By: hotboat
Date Posted: October-07-2009 at 2:29pm
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Oops found another 176 at our trading dock.com, judging by the surrounding boats for sale they could want six figures for this baby. I do like the colors though. ------------- Brian |
Posted By: bonuts
Date Posted: October-08-2009 at 5:43am
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That boat from Rons Marine is the only other 176 I've seen with the same colour scheme as mine (I'm sure there a lots of them) And also kinda interesting my boat was originally purchased from Ron's Marine, just got finished removing all his decals.
bonuts ------------- Terry |
Posted By: NECC
Date Posted: October-08-2009 at 10:45am
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FL Inboards [/QUOTE]No not prototypes but just options. The 176 had nearly all the options that the Ski Nautique had. Their is one out their with a Python in it! [/QUOTE]
The GT40 and all other engines other than the std HP 351 carb were not on the price sheet as options and not officially offered. We had numourus request for the GT40 and the factory was reluctant to put them in for liability reasons. In later years there were a few that we special ordered (off price sheet engine upgrades) with GT40's and other engines. The 176 that 66 Skylark has was the original prototype with the GT40 from the factory. That boat came from California then the owner moved to NH and traded with us on a new 196. On the rudders the first few 176's that were shipped were delivered to us with the brass rudders and then the factory started fabricating the SS rudders and sent them to us to change them out. And yes it was because the boat performed too well and they were scared it would affect the 19'SN sales. Excellent boat to get a hold of and we still have 4-5 that we service on a regular basis....Maybe I could get one of them to sell
Probably Not |
Posted By: Fl Inboards
Date Posted: October-08-2009 at 12:24pm
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Going to have to dispute the statement of the 176 belonging to 66 Skylark is the original prototype 176!
I saw the 176 Prototype and first out of the mold last month at Correct Craft as I was down their doing some testing with the engineering dept and the Ski 200. It has lettering on the side ACME Skier! I have a lot of time in that boat as it was my parts test mule for a lot of years. The boat that 66 Skylark has may have been one of the first production boats and or also a photo / catalog boat. Maybe someone in the past got Photo And Proto mixed up. We did not let the first prototypes out into the field. If one goes to the 1990 catalog and looks at the yellow Ski Nautique that boat was a Prototype that in 96 we cut up and destroyed, it also had composite stringers. I am amazed that the ACME skier is still upon the earth!! ------------- Hobby Boats can be expensive when the hobbyist is limited on their own skill and expertise. 1993 Shamrock "fat" 20. 2008 Nautique 196 5.0 |
Posted By: behindpropeller
Date Posted: October-08-2009 at 1:26pm
So the ACME is the first 176? ------------- |
Posted By: 502Python
Date Posted: October-08-2009 at 3:13pm
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Hear that Wakeslayer? There's a 176 with a Python! ------------- 1999 Sport Nautique-Python Powered 1999 Ski Nautique-Python Powered |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: October-08-2009 at 3:25pm
I think NECC was claiming that he had the original prototype 176 with a GT40, not the original prototype 176. After all, the boat is a 1998! BHP, heres a '96 for sale in Iowa: http://classifiedresults.com/1996-ski-nautique-176/ - http://classifiedresults.com/1996-ski-nautique-176/ ------------- |
Posted By: behindpropeller
Date Posted: October-08-2009 at 4:03pm
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Tim-
I called and have pics on that one. Its pretty beat up. I'm actually looking at one next week that is 5 miles from me, looks decent, price is a bit high though. Tim ------------- |
Posted By: NECC
Date Posted: October-08-2009 at 8:35pm
Thanks Tim, That is what I was claiming...Since the 176 came out in 96. I found a stand alone CC brochure for the 176 in my archives and they had the boat nationally advertised at $18,500.00 with standard features no trailer. |
Posted By: Pauly-Banana
Date Posted: October-08-2009 at 9:06pm
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I have the 1996 brochure in front of me! It does not show the 176? As far as I can tell it was 1997 Ski Nautique 176 and in 1998 it was the Air Tique and nothing for 1999? ------------- mailto:mrfurymn.8124@yahoo.com" rel="nofollow - Pauly-Banana http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=4102&yrstart=1981&yrend=1985" rel="nofollow - My 1983 Nautique <b |
Posted By: anthonylizardi
Date Posted: October-08-2009 at 9:49pm
I think he meant that the 176 brochure was separate from the Nautique line catalog. |
Posted By: NECC
Date Posted: October-08-2009 at 9:50pm
The 1996 176 came out after the 1996 all model brochure was printed thus the reason for the stand alone brochure that I have. 
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Posted By: 05 210
Date Posted: October-08-2009 at 10:24pm
Wow! You dudes at NECC sure are packed with good info. Must be the reason you're Chicken Sodomizing Index scores are so high 
Mike ------------- http:/diaries/details.asp?ID=2219" rel="nofollow - Air Nautique 210 Team 640 hours, not 1 regret |
Posted By: NECC
Date Posted: October-08-2009 at 11:25pm
Yea Buddy...We aim to please....Thats why you allow us to service your toy...
Your scaring me a little with your description of what CSI stands for...Is that a York, Maine past time?
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Posted By: Pauly-Banana
Date Posted: October-09-2009 at 1:08am
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I wonder how many of the 176's were made between 1996 and 1998?
If I had one, that would be something I would want to know! Also, how many had the stronger GT40 engines! ------------- mailto:mrfurymn.8124@yahoo.com" rel="nofollow - Pauly-Banana http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=4102&yrstart=1981&yrend=1985" rel="nofollow - My 1983 Nautique <b |
Posted By: 05 210
Date Posted: October-09-2009 at 1:49am
I belive that sport originated in Rochester. Oh no,wait, you guys are actually in "GONIC" aren't you......  .
ps, I looked for an emoticon with no teeth,but couldn't find one Mike threadjack over.Sorry Tim ------------- http:/diaries/details.asp?ID=2219" rel="nofollow - Air Nautique 210 Team 640 hours, not 1 regret |
Posted By: pjpayleitner
Date Posted: October-09-2009 at 1:47pm
| I have seen 2 1996 SN 176's with GT-40's so I'm not sure how a 1998 model can be a prototype if they had been making them 2 yrs before that? |
Posted By: Fl Inboards
Date Posted: October-09-2009 at 2:49pm
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Yea! like I said in an earlier post the ProtoType is in Orlando.
Back when we came out with the boat I installed everything from a standard 5.8 and including a GT-40 also acouple of manifestations of Chevy and even set a Python in it just to see if the bigblock motor box would fit. I even set a Lightning motor in one but was not givin the time to test it. So any one can believe what they want and promote their boat the way they like if it makes them feel better. ------------- Hobby Boats can be expensive when the hobbyist is limited on their own skill and expertise. 1993 Shamrock "fat" 20. 2008 Nautique 196 5.0 |
Posted By: NECC
Date Posted: October-09-2009 at 3:16pm
Yea Yea Yea....What ever....I'm done...
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Posted By: behindpropeller
Date Posted: October-13-2009 at 1:27pm
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Looked at a nice 176 last night. It was a '96 model with a goofy back seat in it.
All stock. I know these sold for 18.5K when new..... Can't seem to get an idea of what they are selling for used. Tim ------------- |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: October-14-2009 at 2:12pm
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Tim, I got your msg but cant reply (your email is private). TRBenj@gmail.com ------------- |
Posted By: Madcap
Date Posted: October-18-2009 at 5:44pm
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Nice to see other SN176/Air Tique owners! I purchased my '99 Air Tique last summer, and through the contacts and info provided by CCFan I have been working dilligently to get it up to par. The wet sanding and buffing is done (that was work!), and the black gel-coat stripe now gleams as does the rest of the hull. Woody helped with parts, along with fantastic assistance from White Lake for replacement stickers. It heads off to Christine's next month for a full interior replacement.
All this to say that I love the boat, and after a few pulls, the lake neighbors are envious of the wake, saying it's the nicest slalom wake they've ever skied behind (these guys are serious short liners). At wakeboard speeds, it puts up plenty of height for this recreational wakeboarding family. It runs great, is quite efficient, and I can see no need for more than the 270HP it provides through the 351W, giving me about 44mph wide open. Thanks for the info on the rudder - that's good stuff.
Behindpropeller: I paid 10K in a better economy whne the boat had less than 300 hrs on it. The boat only had cosmetic needs, and I put in new carb and steering cable. All in I will have invested about $13K bringing it to like new condition. Good luck - I hope you find one. ------------- '99 SN Air Tique |
Posted By: behindpropeller
Date Posted: July-25-2010 at 1:00am
Just tried to swap mine out tonight. Shaft diameter on them is different.
Tim ------------- |
Posted By: bonuts
Date Posted: July-25-2010 at 5:37am
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Thats interesting. I was just looking for this rudder again to upgrade mine. Finally got the boat out again after its long winter, and was looking for the 11a rudder again. Would like to here more about this before I continue looking.
bonuts ------------- Terry |
Posted By: kmac
Date Posted: May-06-2012 at 8:57pm
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I am new to the forum. Just picked up a 1996 176. Went to change out the stainless steel rudder for the current 11a replacement rudder and noted that the shaft size on the new rudder was bigger then the stainless steel rudder. Would replacing the port be the next option? If so is that fairly easy to do? I wonder if the hole pattern on the new port would match up with the current rudder port. I surly don't want to do anything to the hull to accommodate a new port. Any help would be much appreciated. |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: May-06-2012 at 9:35pm
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Ken, Welcome to CCfan. Glad you joined in to a fantastic group. Yes, a larger port will be needed. You may have to epoxy fill the old mounting holes. When bedding in the new port, I recommend using 3M 4200 adhesive sealant. Why the change? You don't like the SS fabricated rudder? Now the next question is one we ask all new members - we need pictures!! Also, when you get a chance, make a submission to the diary section.------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: watrski
Date Posted: May-07-2012 at 2:40pm
Correct, you need the other port. You can also pull yours out and have a machine shop bore your current one out. |
Posted By: watrski
Date Posted: May-07-2012 at 2:42pm
They do not track or steer with the SS rudder(ett) |
Posted By: watrski
Date Posted: May-07-2012 at 2:47pm
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Posted By: kmac
Date Posted: May-08-2012 at 2:07am
| Thanks for your quick and helpful response. Have only been in the boat a short while. It didn't seem to turn as well as a 1999 Moomba Outback that I have. I read through the discussions on this forum and thought it would be good to change out the rudder. So today I ordered a new rudder port to match the new rudder. Can't wait to try her out once all is installed. Thanks again. |
Posted By: kmac
Date Posted: May-14-2012 at 9:31pm
| Here is an update. Pulled the rudder port that went with the small stainless steel rudder. The new port to accommodate the newer version of the 11A rudder would not fit through the hole in the hull. The bolt pattern was identical so that was not a problem. I had to enlarge the hole in the hull to allow for the new port to fit. Not something I really wanted to do but felt as though I needed to press on. The hole was not a perfect laser cut circle but it was a reasonably good tight fit and I used plenty of the 5200 3M sealant. Looked good once all was done. Probably would not have undertaken all of this if I had a lick of sense but I hope the end result is lake worthy and steers like a champ. |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: May-14-2012 at 9:44pm
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Ken, I'm curious as to what method you used to enlarge the hole in the hull? I'm also glad you didn't take the route that was mentioned about boring the exiting port. I sure would have been concerned with the wall thickness remaining but the even bigger problem may have been getting the packing to fit. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: watrski
Date Posted: May-14-2012 at 9:56pm
The OD on the old and new ports is the same. |
Posted By: kmac
Date Posted: May-15-2012 at 12:39am
| I hate to say it but I used a dremmel and went around the edges of the hole that was there. I didn't have a hole saw but I doubt I could have lined it up great anyway. I talked with the guys at Nautique Parts/ White Lake marine and they told me that is what they would have done if they had the job to do (surly not the dremmel use but the principal of enlarging the hole). I believe that the finished hole that I ended up with was fine. Sure am glad for the 3M sealant though. I was surprised that the outside diameter of the two ports was not the same. The new port is significantly more stout. |
Posted By: watrski
Date Posted: May-15-2012 at 1:08am
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Interesting. Mine was the same exact OD, just different ID. |
Posted By: kmac
Date Posted: May-15-2012 at 2:58am
| I do wish the outside diameters had matched. Then it would have made for a pleasant swap of the ports. Not sure why the difference. The hole wasn't caked up with caulk etc. The new port OD is a little over an 1/8 inch or so larger. The 176 that I have has a hull ID that shows it was made in 1995. Not sure if they changed things around as they got more into production. I'll see about posting some pictures although it will be hard to do a side by side comparison now that one is installed. |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: May-15-2012 at 8:42am
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Ken, Once again, I'n glad it worked out for you. Using the Dremel must have taken a few! If you ever get somthing from one of the cheap import tool places like HF or NT, tack on a hole saw kit. They aren't expensive and will come in handy. For exiting holes that need enlarging, you use this arbor adapter with two hole saws.  I'm surprised White Lake didn't suggest it but I guess they don't have one ether and just grind out the holes. with a "pro" marina!------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: kmac
Date Posted: May-15-2012 at 8:25pm
| That is a great idea. I love the small diameter hole saw being threaded upside down. Wish I had done that. |
Posted By: kmac
Date Posted: May-15-2012 at 8:30pm
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Posted By: kmac
Date Posted: May-15-2012 at 8:32pm
| Not the best picture but the older port is on the left. Can sort of make out the size difference between the two. |
Posted By: kmac
Date Posted: May-15-2012 at 8:59pm
| The guys at White Lake were a big help. I don't think any of us expected the difference in outside diameter. I know they would have used a proper hole saw if they did the install - I think their point to me was that what I did with that crazy dremmel job would be OK! |
Posted By: kmac
Date Posted: May-24-2012 at 7:39pm
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Update: Took the boat out and all was well. No water leaking through at all. Also the boat handled MUCH better. Nearly night and day between the two rudders. A lot of hoopla with changing out the rudders but I am glad that I did it. Thanks to all for their help |
Posted By: spring river footer
Date Posted: June-26-2012 at 2:32am
| would you like to sell your old rudder? thanks todd |
Posted By: kmac
Date Posted: June-27-2012 at 6:27pm
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sure. Would be happy to. The rudder is fine but the port would not be something you would be interested in in that it took a little work to remove it. Ken |
Posted By: B_Bob
Date Posted: July-09-2012 at 6:31am
| Just bought a 96 ski nautique 176. Does anyone have pics of the back seat of an air tique 176 or know where I could get one? |
Posted By: Madcap
Date Posted: July-09-2012 at 9:27pm
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Hi Brent - Glad you are enjoying the boat. I have a '99 Air Tique, and the back seat is exactly as pictured here (from the brochure section of this site). I can get to my boat this weekend. Are there any other pictures you need?  ------------- '99 SN Air Tique |