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Printed Date: November-18-2024 at 12:47am


Topic: Oil recomendations
Posted By: bonuts
Subject: Oil recomendations
Date Posted: October-05-2009 at 11:54pm

I drained my transmission on my '96 SN176, with the PCM 1.23 Trans, and the tranny case, and my owners manual conflict with what I should run. I am sure the tranny case should be the right one, but wanted to make sure.


   My owners manual says to run 20wt oil, and the plate on the trans says to run DexII.


   What do you think?


   bonuts

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Posted By: 87ccsn2001
Date Posted: October-06-2009 at 12:07am
go with what is on the plate, on the trans, thats my 2 cents but I'm new to the game, hopefully other guys will chime in


Posted By: SNobsessed
Date Posted: October-06-2009 at 12:33am
Was the oil you took out red or brown?

Dexron III is what is recommended. If you took out engine oil (brown) then you might have to change it a couple times to convert to ATF.

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Posted By: bonuts
Date Posted: October-06-2009 at 2:37am
It looked reddish, maybe somebody ran 20wt at some point, cause it didn't really look like ATF


   bonuts

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Terry


Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: October-06-2009 at 9:37am
Maybe it was really old ATF.

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Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: October-06-2009 at 10:14am
these tranny's were converted from 20w to Dexron/Mercon. stick with the dex merc

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Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: October-06-2009 at 11:02am
If it looked redish then it was probably already switched over to ATF. Follow the recommendations already given- stick with Dex/Merc or DexIII. Use conventional, do NOT use synthetic. Avoid high mileage formulations.

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Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: October-06-2009 at 11:50am
I changed the fluid in the Classic over the weekend. It had looked red on the dip stick all summer. When I pumped it out it looked like old oil and I wondered if someone had been running 20W in it. I stuck a paper towel in it and it had a red tint. I'd say it was just really old tranny fluid.

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Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: October-06-2009 at 1:09pm
and, never ever any transmission additives unless you want to finance my next years vacation

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Posted By: jeclarke
Date Posted: October-06-2009 at 2:57pm
My model year 2001 SN 196 manual says to change the trans fluid every year but there is also a maintenance table that shows it should be changed every 100 hours.

Does anyone know which is correct? I'm inclined to change it every year as that should be cheap insurance.


Posted By: kapla
Date Posted: October-06-2009 at 6:35pm
I think Is what happends first..

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Posted By: tullfooter
Date Posted: October-06-2009 at 7:20pm
Originally posted by jeclarke jeclarke wrote:

My model year 2001 SN 196 manual says to change the trans fluid every year but there is also a maintenance table that shows it should be changed every 100 hours.

Does anyone know which is correct? I'm inclined to change it every year as that should be cheap insurance.


I think you should put 100 hours/year on your boat. That will end the confusion.

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Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: October-06-2009 at 7:29pm
Tull, what if you only put on 99

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Posted By: bonuts
Date Posted: October-06-2009 at 9:47pm
Out of curiousity why no synthetics?

   As far as when to do the oil changes, when I talked to the local boat guy he said you had to change trans oil before lay-up because of acids that eat cluth material? Any truth to that or does he also have a bridge for sale?


   bonuts

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Terry


Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: October-06-2009 at 10:10pm
Originally posted by bonuts bonuts wrote:

   Out of curiousity why no synthetics?

   As far as when to do the oil changes, when I talked to the local boat guy he said you had to change trans oil before lay-up because of acids that eat cluth material? Any truth to that or does he also have a bridge for sale?


   bonuts


Terry,
The marine trans has nothing in common with a automotive automatic. No torque converter! It's simply a hydraulic pump to apply pressure to a forward or reverse clutch pack. I see no benefits to a synthetic hydraulic fluid even in a industrial application unless the system has been poorly designed with inadequate cooling and the synthetic is needed because of the high system temperatures. That's certainly not the case with the marine trans. I however do not know of a problem running synthetic. I'm sure Eric can elaborate.

I think the guy is trying to sell you the bridge or he's slow and needs some work! Did he tell you how much he charges for a trans fluid change? Acids eating up the clutch? Eric? Ok guys, I've mentioned that it's was 29 years on my 312 without a tune up, well the Velvet drive has NEVER had a fluid change since I bought the boat. Doesn't leak a drop and runs fantastic!!

Now, if he's talking about engine oil, that's a different story. Yes on a oil change before layup.

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Posted By: anthonylizardi
Date Posted: October-06-2009 at 10:18pm
IIRC, I believe Eric mention something about too slipery can cause a problem. Something about rubbing your hands together. I bet he will chime in soon.


Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: October-06-2009 at 10:48pm
Pete, 27 years? Wait to you see how brown it is when you finally do change it. I guess you do like to keep it original!

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Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: October-06-2009 at 11:15pm
we must of been talking about HW and Quinn,
Pete, we think the same, I dont take care of *************** till it breaks, a matter of fact I know my car needs oil cause the light pops on in the corners, really, you dont eat the doughnuts when you work at the doughnut shop lol,
anyways, once a season is fine, in the spring. transmissions dont produce any by-products such as acid, synthetics are not good on the clutch plates, in terms we can understand put your dry hands together as if you are praying, push them together and try to rotate them opposite of eachother...that is what normal oil will do, when you introduce a synthetic and do the same thing but this time adding a touch of hand creme, I'll let HW or Quinner finish this one

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Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: October-06-2009 at 11:16pm
Originally posted by Riley Riley wrote:

Pete, 27 years? Wait to you see how brown it is when you finally do change it. I guess you do like to keep it original!


Bruce,
The last time I checked it, was a couple days before I headed up to GL. Looked great - No signs of water, looked clean and smelled fine!

I was waiting for the "original" comment!!

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Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: October-06-2009 at 11:37pm
I really dont know what the lifespan of Dex/Merc is, engine oil is subjected to higher temps and will break down under different conditions, in a trans there will be sediment that can float but it would have to come from an outside source unless something is starting to fail. you will see sludge in the pockets of transmissions, not alot most of the time with regular oil changes. but i never had to rebuild a transmission because of bad oil unlike an engine

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