How deep should I go?
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Printed Date: November-18-2024 at 3:30am
Topic: How deep should I go?
Posted By: SNobsessed
Subject: How deep should I go?
Date Posted: October-06-2009 at 11:47pm
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I've put this one off all summer. Now it's time for action. I think I will have to take the gas tank out & reinforce this from the inside. Of course I will fix the gel from the outside. What do you guys think?
The PO must have caught a stick or something with the pitot tube. I would think an impact hard enough to crack this much gel would have broken off the pitot tube.  ------------- “Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.” Ben Franklin |
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Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: October-06-2009 at 11:55pm
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it may have cracked from his pilot hole being to small and running the larger screw in ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: SNobsessed
Date Posted: October-07-2009 at 12:03am
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Good point, Eric, didn't think of that. Maybe it's not fractured all the way through.
By the way, you were on the site at 6:30 AM too. You don't watch much TV either?? ------------- “Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.” Ben Franklin |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: October-07-2009 at 12:12am
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i was on my second pot of coffee, dont get much sleep these days, luckily my neighbor had a spare tower cause I got a major virus yesterday and then someone in Denmark got my Bank account info and started spending worse than the wife..got that handled this morning. Im trying to skip the morning news, giving Buffalo a chance to reload ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: DAY_TRIP
Date Posted: October-07-2009 at 12:42am
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There is so much glass in that area that I am sure it is not cracked through. If you die grind the crack form the outside you will see very easily if it extends into the glass and how far. If it does but not all the way through I would grind until you are into good glass, bevel the glass back at a 45 approx., then fill it with polyester resin thickened with microfibers and cabosil (silca). The cabosil will help in not sag. underfill it so you leave room for gelcoat. once cured gelcoat the area and put a piece of wax paper over it to get it smooth and flat. You should add some wax to the gelcoat to keep it from being sticky.
This repair would be better with epoxy but then gelcoat is out. I would not take the tank out and do anything from inside unless the crack goes all the way through. My two cents. Jim |
Posted By: storm34
Date Posted: October-07-2009 at 2:22am
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Chris,
Hate to say it but I think that boats ruined! You can drop it off at my house if you'd like...I'll take it off your hands for ya!! ------------- |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: October-07-2009 at 9:51am
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Chris,
I'd just route out the gel (Dremel with a small burr) and see what's under it. Yes, there's lots of hull under that area. Epoxy resin isn't out of the picture here if you do see some cracking under the gel. Yes, polyester resin/gel doesn't like to stick to epoxy and a conversion layer of polyvinyl resin is usually used but that's on big areas when you're doing a complete regel. A small gel repair like this you won't have a problem. If it is cracked under the gel, use a glue injector (syringe) and get the epoxy into the crack. Wipe it down to remove any excess. Let it cure and then go back at it with the Dremel to just clean up the groove again. Then you can get the gel back in. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: SNobsessed
Date Posted: October-07-2009 at 10:44am
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Thaks guys. I'll do that, will save a lot of work. I already have a gel coat repair kit from Evercoat (still need to fix the crack by the front lift ring, that is not anywhere this bad). It will be interesting trying to color match! ------------- “Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.” Ben Franklin |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: October-07-2009 at 10:57am
Chris, We'll all be sure to take a look when we're at GL 10! You're probably better at it than I am. It can be tough! Just use the end of a tooth pick to add the tints slowly. It doesn't take much! ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
SNobsessed wrote:Posted By: GottaSki
Date Posted: October-07-2009 at 11:49am
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Its unsafe at any speed, remember the intro to the six million dollar man? I'll even come pick it up. ------------- "There is nothing, absolutely nothing, half so much worthwhile as messing around with boats...simply messing." River Rat to Mole |
Posted By: SNobsessed
Date Posted: October-22-2009 at 1:17am
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Finally got this finished.
Here are the during & after pictures. The PO had replaced the pickup with one that has a different base hole pattern & left the 3rd hole partially open! I wonder how much foam I soaked in the last 130 hours?? I made a rookie mistake on the color match - I rolled the boat outside to get some sunlight & matched best I could (to the deck). Then after block sanding the original gel color came through around my repair. Won't even mention the pinholes. A little touch up paint (shame on me) & now it is good enough for the transom under the platform. My hat's off to you guys that do this for a living! 
 ------------- “Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.” Ben Franklin |
Posted By: BuffaloBFN
Date Posted: October-22-2009 at 8:33am
Looks good Chris! Next time you drop by... 
Don't hold yourself back on my account. Heck, I wouldn't know where to start a political discussion right now...too many options! ------------- http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=2331&sort=&pagenum=12&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - 1988 BFN-sold "It's a Livin' Thing...What a Terrible Thing to Lose" ELO |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: October-22-2009 at 9:26am
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Chris,
I can't see what the color difference and I'm sure others won't ether. Looks good. Now are you going to do the deck around the lifting ring? I've posted a method that I find works for me. If you've missed it, here's what I do on critical gel repairs. Route the crack out. Overlay the area several inches on both sides with fine line tape. Go back and carefully route out the tape that's now covering the routed grooves. Overfill with the gel. Rough hard block wet sand level down to the top of the tape. The tape will prevent you from sanding the original surrounding area too much and act as a guide to your sanding depth. Remove the tape and finish hard block wet sand. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: SNobsessed
Date Posted: October-22-2009 at 10:58am
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Pete - Your method would have worked better. it was a restricted area with contour so I just did it the old fashioned way. I think I beveled the gel a bit too much. What my 'during' picture doesn't show is the partial fill with epoxy. That got a little to full & ended up at the surface in a few spots. The color looks good now because I gave it a coat of matching spray paint!
This was a good spot to try this procedure - - The crack on my deck, (next to the lift ring) is so minor that I don't think it is worth this amount of work, plus the color mismatch would be even more apparent! I'm leaving that sleeping dog lie! You guys will have to look for it at GL next year, I'm not pointing it out to you. ------------- “Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.” Ben Franklin |