1986 Barefoot Nautique
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Topic: 1986 Barefoot Nautique
Posted By: jo nautique
Subject: 1986 Barefoot Nautique
Date Posted: November-06-2009 at 4:14pm
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Hi everybody,
My name is Jo and my brother and I just bought a 1986 BFN. Kristof, who you all know and is a member here told me these babies are quite rare here in Europe... It is a project boat, but we made a very good deal on her, especially compared to European standards. Here are some pics (sorry for the poor quality, but they were made at night with a cheap camera  ):
BTW, fiberglass on stringers is bad, but wood is still rock solid... |
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Posted By: BuffaloBFN
Date Posted: November-06-2009 at 4:34pm
Better check with Kistof again. He's been around long enough to know what we'll say. I see a few areas that will indicate water where it shouldn't be. A biggie is the inset where the removeable floor goes. I think it was only gelled at the factory. Also, the battery box drain and vent hoses are open for discussion. The plus side is a Barefoot in Belgium! Luv it! ------------- http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=2331&sort=&pagenum=12&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - 1988 BFN-sold "It's a Livin' Thing...What a Terrible Thing to Lose" ELO |
jo nautique wrote:Posted By: GottaSki
Date Posted: November-06-2009 at 4:35pm
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Nice! (cept for the fork-lift steering knob)
But what's with black tranny & block? Its been out and/or apart before. And the 2V carb on a 454? I've seen the 4-into three exhaust before. Hope it works out, let us know as you have questions ------------- "There is nothing, absolutely nothing, half so much worthwhile as messing around with boats...simply messing." River Rat to Mole |
Posted By: GottaSki
Date Posted: November-06-2009 at 4:36pm
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Oh, thats propane...
best check the cfm of that model ------------- "There is nothing, absolutely nothing, half so much worthwhile as messing around with boats...simply messing." River Rat to Mole |
Posted By: behindpropeller
Date Posted: November-06-2009 at 4:42pm
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Nice.
I would not be surprised by the stringers. My guess is 95% of 1986 ski nautiques need the stringers redone, thats just life. Tim ------------- |
Posted By: Kristof
Date Posted: November-06-2009 at 4:43pm
Guys guys guys, Jo, his brother and I are sitting next to each other in front of the computer. (That European reunion might get realised after all  )
Greg, exactly what I told these youngsters 
I did do some checks together with them, and, the wood from the stringers does sound solid... Engine cradle bolts bite. Just the fiberglass is bad (looks like a poor job to me anyway). They already started working on her and got rid of the first layer of poor paint job on the hull. Still lots of sanding and polishing to do... Gotta Ski, The carb does look different, but that's because its converted to LPG... Here's a pic of his LPG tank: 
------------- - Gun control means: using BOTH hands! - Money doesn't make one happy, but when it rains cats and dogs, it's still better to cry in a Porsche than on a bicycle... |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: November-06-2009 at 4:47pm
Welcome Jo, nice boat! Lots of fans of the BFN here, youre in good company.
Sorry, but Id caution your optimism here. Our '79 BFN appeared to be mostly solid (save for a small part of the floor around the pylon), and it had similar cracking on the stringers. As we continue to tear it apart, we're finding that it was wet and rotten to the core! Im not sure theres such a thing as a solid CC that old. Thats not saying that you cant run it as-is (Im sure there are TONS of people that do), but there are certainly underlying issues on most boats, even pristine ones. ------------- |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: November-06-2009 at 4:49pm
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Jo,
Glad you found the site but I'm sorry you know that guy named Kristof!! Hopefully he doesn't show you the picture of him in the bathtub.
BTW, you need stringers. Just because the glass seems solid, it doesn't mean the wood is still in good shape. You've come to the right spot for any info/help on doing the job so keep us informed. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: SN206
Date Posted: November-06-2009 at 4:55pm
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Welcome Jo,
If I remeber correctly there was a Competitive barefooter who live next door to my parents in Winter Haven Florida by the name Robert Teurezbacher. I think him and Scarpa were working together way, way back in the day. Anyways, he is from Austria and at one point would bring a promo BFN back every year to sell somewhere in Europe. Last I heard he was still doing some instruction with his company Barefoot Ect. and still taking some older barefoot boats across the pond. It may be worth checking out if you needed parts or anything else. ------------- ...those who have fallen and those who will. |
Posted By: tullfooter
Date Posted: November-06-2009 at 5:22pm
Welcome to the BFN club. I hate to say it, but the pics of your stringers look better than mine.  But I'm a procrastinator, and am running it, as is, for now.
Nice find. BTW, you found the best liaison to CCFan in Belgium.  ------------- Play hard, life's not a trial run. '85 BFN '90 BFN White Lake, Michigan |
Posted By: Mojo
Date Posted: November-06-2009 at 5:33pm
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I love the custom light bar on the monster tower... Cool add on
Moj' ------------- 05' SV211 TE 73' Martinique had:96' SNOB had:76' Nautique had 77 Tique |
Posted By: Kristof
Date Posted: November-06-2009 at 5:41pm
Yeah isn't it
We were discussing over the fact if we're gonna keep it or not 
Think that after a few beers this thing looks even more cool ROFLOL. Let's find a 12V one!! ------------- - Gun control means: using BOTH hands! - Money doesn't make one happy, but when it rains cats and dogs, it's still better to cry in a Porsche than on a bicycle... |
Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: November-06-2009 at 6:30pm
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You can see little of the actual stringers in that boat, remember on the BFN the striners are really short and under the mufflers. The cracked up fiberglass is just over the plywood that is used to get the floor up there for the foam and floor fiberglass. ------------- |
Posted By: 86BFN
Date Posted: November-06-2009 at 6:44pm
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Congratulations and welcome! You're gonna love it! ------------- š£ Steve http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=4057&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1986&yrend=1986" rel="nofollow - 86 Barefoot Nautique 89 Martinique Former Owner: 93 Hydrodyne 350 MAG |
Posted By: BuffaloBFN
Date Posted: November-06-2009 at 7:05pm
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Kristof, look after this guy as he has a very cool boat! If you don't, we'll have to tie you to a tree and throw ice cubes at you...or whatever HW comes up with.
It's worth fixing in my opinion...these guys(like you) beat through those little waves...a BFN rides through! Tull, are we gonna have to shoot you?
FWIW-I like Tull; I know your name is Fred. ------------- http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=2331&sort=&pagenum=12&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - 1988 BFN-sold "It's a Livin' Thing...What a Terrible Thing to Lose" ELO |
Posted By: uk1979
Date Posted: November-06-2009 at 7:51pm
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Welcome aboard great news we now have a euro BFN. ------------- Lets have a go 56 Starflite 77 SN 78 SN 80 BFN |
Posted By: Kristof
Date Posted: November-06-2009 at 8:06pm
Ya'll can try that at GL next year, because I told him about this reunion and we looked at some pictures and he wants to come with me... Don't worry Greg, he's in good hands... I showed him the path to CCfan now didn't I??? ------------- - Gun control means: using BOTH hands! - Money doesn't make one happy, but when it rains cats and dogs, it's still better to cry in a Porsche than on a bicycle... |
Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: November-06-2009 at 8:08pm
In the bathtub together? ------------- |
Posted By: BuffaloBFN
Date Posted: November-06-2009 at 8:12pm
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HW, you do need to clue these Euros into the swing...
Lotsa work but worth it! ------------- http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=2331&sort=&pagenum=12&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - 1988 BFN-sold "It's a Livin' Thing...What a Terrible Thing to Lose" ELO |
Posted By: SNobsessed
Date Posted: November-06-2009 at 9:43pm
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Jo - Run it like you stole it until you have the resources & time to weed that pumpkin patch!
It will probably go for 2 or 3 years like it is without major work. Polish the hull, buy some beer, invite some ladies & have a great time! ------------- āBeer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.ā Ben Franklin |
Posted By: jo nautique
Date Posted: November-07-2009 at 4:45pm
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Hi all,
Today we started to dissasemble her. Kristof came over and the three of us started working on the boat. First we started to get the oil out. There was our first surprise (but we suspected it): milky white goo... So we looked a little closer and found a crack in the block...
But, we put our disapointment aside and decided to get the engine out for a full restoration (get on the lookout for a block). We continued to dissasemble the boat and progress went well... As work advanced further and further, Kristof even convinced us to do the whole nine yards on this baby. So it looks like we're gonna do a stringer job too and get this beauty back to her full glory... Pic's of today's labor: 
Previous owner even mounted a windscreen wiper...
Dashboard out: 
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Posted By: Kristof
Date Posted: November-07-2009 at 4:55pm
LOL! Been hanging around for some time on this site! Except for the monster tower, we're going for resto to original (I told these boys about you Pete!! )
I love to hang out at these guys' place. They have a lot of knowledge about cars and boats, and also a shop that looks more like a treasure cave  .
Here's how we build an engine cradle from scrap metal lying around... 
Engine is coming out of the boat tomorrow afternoon... ------------- - Gun control means: using BOTH hands! - Money doesn't make one happy, but when it rains cats and dogs, it's still better to cry in a Porsche than on a bicycle... |
Posted By: kapla
Date Posted: November-08-2009 at 8:42am
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Hey Jo welcome to the comunity!!! I was going to ask Kristof if the you were they guy I met when I was there..and now I can confirm you are after thisw pics..LOL nice you have a long winter project...I have just finished my boat yesterday..after 6 months of work.. and the moment you put the last bolt turn the key and everything its ok its the best!!! I will follow your post with great interest ..keep up the work coming... ------------- <a href="">1992 ski nautique |
Posted By: Kristof
Date Posted: November-08-2009 at 2:24pm
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Today's update on the boat:
Getting ready to pull the engine out: 
Tom firing up the fork lift (these guys got some nice gear in their backyard ):
Jo preparing the engine for the lift: 
Engine out of the boat and on its way to its cradle: 
Engine on the cradle in front of their shop (or better said: treasure cave): 
------------- - Gun control means: using BOTH hands! - Money doesn't make one happy, but when it rains cats and dogs, it's still better to cry in a Porsche than on a bicycle... |
Posted By: Kristof
Date Posted: November-08-2009 at 2:33pm
The crack in the block (and the freeze plug half out) and the milky white goo still leaking out of the dipstick hole:
Pic of the tranny (especially for you Eric ):
lifting the LPG tank out: 
Pic of messy jobs by PO on the transom: 
Looking over the work done so far and wondering if we should get ourselves another beer: 
------------- - Gun control means: using BOTH hands! - Money doesn't make one happy, but when it rains cats and dogs, it's still better to cry in a Porsche than on a bicycle... |
Posted By: jbear
Date Posted: November-08-2009 at 3:43pm
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Wow is this gonna be fun to watch...as long as there is no "tub" shots.
Welcome to the site guys. You are in good hands with Kristof. I see that he already has you guys sharing lots of pictures on here. john ------------- "Loud pipes save lives" AdamT sez "I'm Canadian and a beaver lover myself"... |
Posted By: BuffaloBFN
Date Posted: November-08-2009 at 5:10pm
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I wanna yank Kristof's chain, but I'll wait to next time.
We're looking forward to what you 'euros' come up with! ------------- http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=2331&sort=&pagenum=12&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - 1988 BFN-sold "It's a Livin' Thing...What a Terrible Thing to Lose" ELO |
Posted By: 86BFN
Date Posted: November-08-2009 at 5:13pm
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Now thats an engine hoist! Looks like a great project. Keep the pics coming!
Steve ------------- š£ Steve http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=4057&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1986&yrend=1986" rel="nofollow - 86 Barefoot Nautique 89 Martinique Former Owner: 93 Hydrodyne 350 MAG |
Posted By: Kristof
Date Posted: November-08-2009 at 6:18pm
Oh Yeah...??? Bring it on my friend, bring it on!!
Gonna pick up the phone right now and call you... ------------- - Gun control means: using BOTH hands! - Money doesn't make one happy, but when it rains cats and dogs, it's still better to cry in a Porsche than on a bicycle... |
Posted By: Kristof
Date Posted: November-08-2009 at 6:39pm
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Greg,
Nice talking to you on the phone. You a funny man, WEALLY funny
So, start looking for a cheap plane ticket and get you butt over here! Jo, tell your dad to prepare a room in his B&B, the Pumpkin professor might come over .
Oh, and make sure there's enough beer in the fridge ------------- - Gun control means: using BOTH hands! - Money doesn't make one happy, but when it rains cats and dogs, it's still better to cry in a Porsche than on a bicycle... |
Posted By: Tom nautique
Date Posted: November-09-2009 at 4:53pm
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Hi everybody,
My name is Tom, Jo's brother. Today we did some more work, took out the engine support out, pulled the stikkers off, claend the inside a bit, and took out all the cable's. We'll post some pic's tomorrow. |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: November-09-2009 at 5:22pm
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Kristof,
If Greg comes over, you'll need a interpreter!! At GL this year, at least we had Billy to do the interpreting. (Believe it or not, Billy doesn't have the deep southern accent!!!!) ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: Kristof
Date Posted: November-09-2009 at 5:43pm
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Tom,
Doing some work behind my back now??? That's not fair! 
Pete, ROFLOL!!! Strange, on the phone he didn't sound all that bad
Greg, Who's yankin' who's chain now buddy 
------------- - Gun control means: using BOTH hands! - Money doesn't make one happy, but when it rains cats and dogs, it's still better to cry in a Porsche than on a bicycle... |
Posted By: jbear
Date Posted: November-10-2009 at 1:01am
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Called Greg to offer my services as interpeter and there was a party goin' on. Keith, the Moorfoots, Amy and who knows who else. Sounded like fun. Heard that Greg made them eat Steak instead of Toothpick surprise. Hated to miss that one. All the more reason to look forward to the St. Johns.
john ------------- "Loud pipes save lives" AdamT sez "I'm Canadian and a beaver lover myself"... |
Posted By: kapla
Date Posted: November-26-2009 at 5:50pm
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We need UPDATES!!! LOL
------------- <a href="">1992 ski nautique |
Posted By: Kristof
Date Posted: November-26-2009 at 6:52pm
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Seb, stay cool dude... They're coming LOL
Jo has made some more pics. I told him to post them. No worries, I'll be at their house again on saturday and we will post them...  ------------- - Gun control means: using BOTH hands! - Money doesn't make one happy, but when it rains cats and dogs, it's still better to cry in a Porsche than on a bicycle... |
Posted By: Ben#155
Date Posted: October-21-2010 at 5:14pm
How is the project going? finished? |
Posted By: jo nautique
Date Posted: November-13-2010 at 12:05pm
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Project started again this week... Finally.
We flipped the boat over and are in the process of sanding... Sanding and sanding some more  .
Main stringers are still in perfect shape and dry. So they're staying in. Gonna put an extra layer of glass on them. Here are some pics: 
Getting the anti-fouling off is a PITA! |
Posted By: Kristof
Date Posted: November-15-2010 at 2:41pm
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As Jo said, we checked out the main stringers by chipping away the fiberglass at a few places. To my great surprise (and moreso disbelief) they where indeed in perfect condition and dry!
So we're gonna close up the chipped away parts and put an extra layer of glass on them. Spent the whole afternoon sanding her with Jo. Man, that anti-fouling is some serious nasty cr@p... Especially since its on layer upon layer... Everything in the shop is covered with a thick layer of white and gray dust 
------------- - Gun control means: using BOTH hands! - Money doesn't make one happy, but when it rains cats and dogs, it's still better to cry in a Porsche than on a bicycle... |
Posted By: kapla
Date Posted: November-15-2010 at 8:13pm
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was foam removed or still there? IĀ“d check that also..leaving wet foam is not a good idea...
you are painting or will re-gel? ------------- <a href="">1992 ski nautique |
Posted By: Mojo
Date Posted: November-15-2010 at 8:33pm
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Amen to that.. Kristof, if you are going to go through all that resto, it would be best served by pulling the foam and making sure there's no water at all lurking in there...
Still not convinced those stringers are rot free dude.. Moj' ------------- 05' SV211 TE 73' Martinique had:96' SNOB had:76' Nautique had 77 Tique |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: November-15-2010 at 8:59pm
Kristof/Jo, be aware that fiberglass will not "chip away". Resin-soaked fiberglass cloth/mat will flex and not be easy to get through. Resin (no cloth) by itself is brittle and will chip- what you likely were removing was the gelcoat layer in the bilge. I am somewhat skeptical that you even got down to the bare wood. Like Mojo, Im extremely skeptical that the wood is dry. Ive yet to disassemble a CC of any age and find dry wood. Its not always rotten, but its always wet- and its ALWAYS worth replacing. To remove all the gel and re-wrap with glass (which you would need to do for it to adhere properly) is only incrementally less work than removing everything and repairing the boat the right way. ------------- |
Posted By: Kristof
Date Posted: November-16-2010 at 7:05am
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Guys,
Trust me, I was even more sceptical than you... But first we removed all the foam (and yes part of it was wet, as expected). Two of the bulkheads were also wet and showed first signs of rot. After removing all the foam and having the two main stringers remaining, we really checked them onto bare wood. Maybe I didn't use the right words, but with a grinder we grinded through the glass wrap around the main stringers to check the wood. When we started, I even said to Jo and Tom that is was a waste of energy because they would have rot and would have to be removed all the way. But... they where dry at all the places we looked!! I still cannot believe it, because I've read so many posts on here that prooved the opposite. If it was my boat, and I would be at this point, I would replace them anyway. But the two brothers are stubborn . So I'll leave it at that and tell myself that in the end it's their boat.
I hope I won't have to tell them "I told you so" somewhere in the future...
------------- - Gun control means: using BOTH hands! - Money doesn't make one happy, but when it rains cats and dogs, it's still better to cry in a Porsche than on a bicycle... |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: November-16-2010 at 9:24am
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have you guy's located a block yet? ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: Kristof
Date Posted: November-16-2010 at 4:51pm
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Nope Eric, not yet...
You got something lying around in your shop perhaps...? ------------- - Gun control means: using BOTH hands! - Money doesn't make one happy, but when it rains cats and dogs, it's still better to cry in a Porsche than on a bicycle... |
Posted By: kapla
Date Posted: November-16-2010 at 6:48pm
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after looking to mike macqueen thread pictures I canĀ“t imagine leaving the stringer untouched in joĀ“s BFN...
http://picasaweb.google.com/mike.macqueen/CORRECTCRAFTFAN?feat=email#5539918658724527138 - rot ------------- <a href="">1992 ski nautique |
Posted By: kapla
Date Posted: November-16-2010 at 6:51pm
I really see black wood under that glass... anyway if the plan is to leave the stringer IĀ“d put tons of Cpes or like and cot them with the proper epoxy resin etc... ------------- <a href="">1992 ski nautique |
Posted By: Kristof
Date Posted: November-27-2010 at 2:50pm
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Seb, where you see that black (and indeed rotten wood) is the part we took out completely.
The main stringers in that barefoot are under the exhaust pipe... ------------- - Gun control means: using BOTH hands! - Money doesn't make one happy, but when it rains cats and dogs, it's still better to cry in a Porsche than on a bicycle... |
Posted By: wakeboardin2k4
Date Posted: November-27-2010 at 7:57pm
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Nice looking boat and should be a great project. Can't wait to see how this project comes out.
You guys should try and find a 502 BBC. I have no idea what Eric Lavine would have around but he seems to be pretty good at finding a needle in a haystack. ------------- "I'm planning to bring my girl that rides on a trailer with me and leave my girl that complains about camping at home" |
Posted By: skutsch
Date Posted: December-01-2010 at 12:19pm
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Great Project! ------------- Our http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=4669" rel="nofollow - 98 Sport Nautique My Dad's 63 Ski N |
Posted By: LennyBoat
Date Posted: June-01-2023 at 12:53pm
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Hi All, Skipping ahead a few months, now the engine itself has been taken apart and sent of to the garage, together with another replacement block and crank. Itās a GenV instead of a GenIV, so still not sure this is possible or what adaptations are necessary. We pitched up an old tent in my brothers garden (he's renovating his house), flipped the hull upside down and started the repairs on the bottom. https://ibb.co/bPtmhJQ" rel="nofollow"> https://ibb.co/9ybQQDT" rel="nofollow"> Once all the dusty work is done, we will move the boat to a closed
garage for a repaint. This is our first boat "restoration" as well as our first DD boat, so safe to say we will encounter a lot of issues along the way. Seeing the amount of knowledge on this forum, I know we'll be able to sort them all out with a little help. I'll try to keep this thread regularly updated on our progress. Very excited to get this Barefoot back on the water! |
