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Topic: Vinyl Foor 101
Posted By: Mojo
Subject: Vinyl Foor 101
Date Posted: December-04-2009 at 5:13pm
Yes, I know there has been plenty of discussion about finding the match for the "tweed" style vinyl floor for our 60's CC's. I remember however that no one has ever really found the correct pattern and or something that will last better than wall covering..

I'n curious if anyone has found something they really like, is durable, and looks half way decent???

The carpet has to come out of the Cuda, just wondering what I want to put back in it... Since the boat is going "original style", I thought to weigh out the vinyl floor option...

Anything really worth looking at ??

Moj'

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Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: December-04-2009 at 5:25pm
I bought this in white for our Mustang, but haven't installed it yet.
http://www.yourautotrim.com/nadedotfl.html - http://www.yourautotrim.com/nadedotfl.html

There's a heavier, pricier flooring from A & A that we're considering for the Classic. It's rubber with lines on it.

I've yet to find anything that's like the textured rubber floor that came in those older boats.

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Posted By: Mojo
Date Posted: December-04-2009 at 6:27pm
Thought the stuff from Cabellas looked pretty good... I'm afraid of "white" although that would look pretty classy...


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Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: December-04-2009 at 7:05pm
Dave,
I did find in my searching for vinyl wall covering that there are different weights available. The stuff CC used was pretty light weight. Still, don't know if you cold find the "basket weave". I know Charlie (Brady) has the same in his 70 Cuda but hasn't had a chance to go to a wall covering store yet. I did see plenty of grass cloth styles and do know CC used it too. I've got a feeling they were using remnants or over runs!!!! BTW, Charlies lasted for 30 years! Put the same stuff back in and give it another 30 years. By the time it goes, you'll (and myself) be doing other mods to our boats - like a wheel chair access!!

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Posted By: p/allen
Date Posted: December-04-2009 at 8:35pm
Heck Pete my floor is still original at 37 years

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Posted By: The Godfather
Date Posted: December-05-2009 at 1:11am

Dave,

I will take a photo of my floor and post it later.

Mine is 37 years old as well. And you will see in great shape as well.

Dave


Posted By: connorssons
Date Posted: December-05-2009 at 11:36am
Hello a friend put the floor in from A A marine looks great, thay also have a floor that looks similar to the old CC floors. good luck jeff.


Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: December-05-2009 at 12:46pm
Originally posted by connorssons connorssons wrote:

Hello a friend put the floor in from A A marine looks great, thay also have a floor that looks similar to the old CC floors. good luck jeff.


Similar but not very original!!!

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Posted By: MartyMabe
Date Posted: December-05-2009 at 12:57pm
http://www.garysupholstery.com/basketvinyl.html#specs - Basketweave Design ???

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Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: December-05-2009 at 1:03pm
Pete, even the commercial wall papers are similar, but not very original. If they were using remnants and over runs, there is a wide range of what would be considered original.

I've got some scraps of the rubber stuff that was in our 67 Cuda. They used it in the Mustang to secure the exhaust hose to the stringers with roofing nails!

Maybe Dave will find a color in wall paper that will go with his Barracuda, but I couldn't find one that would go with seafoam green. If you're rstoring one of these boats, finding the right flooring is a PIA.



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Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: December-05-2009 at 9:29pm
Originally posted by Riley Riley wrote:

Pete, even the commercial wall papers are similar, but not very original. If they were using remnants and over runs, there is a wide range of what would be considered original.



Bruce,
You put vinyl wall covering back in that's a original restoration even though it may not be the exact color or pattern. You put another material in like rubber then it's certainly not a restoration. Do you think someone doing a Garwood and puts new "battleship" linoleum back in but the shade of gray is slightly off isn't a original restoration?

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Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: December-05-2009 at 9:39pm
Originally posted by MartyMabe MartyMabe wrote:

http://www.garysupholstery.com/basketvinyl.html#specs - Basketweave Design ???


Marty,
The one you found has too much weave. I just did a search and the first site I went to is http://www.usvinylmfg.com/catalog.php?Catalog_ID=3&sm=1&sm_w=1 - US vinyl . They specialize in commercial wall covering like this one. It's a 15oz and pretty damn close to the basket weave pattern CC used.



Here's another one that looks damn close to another pattern CC used. It happens to be even heavier at 21oz.



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Posted By: connorssons
Date Posted: December-06-2009 at 10:50am
Will these wall coverings hold up to the u v rays and traffic. any help would be nice.would like to put my floor back as close to possible in my 72 seperator. thanks jeff


Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: December-06-2009 at 10:55am
Originally posted by connorssons connorssons wrote:

Will these wall coverings hold up to the u v rays and traffic. any help would be nice.would like to put my floor back as close to possible in my 72 seperator. thanks jeff


Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:

Dave,
BTW, Charlies lasted for 30 years! Put the same stuff back in and give it another 30 years. By the time it goes, you'll (and myself) be doing other mods to our boats - like a wheel chair access!!


Originally posted by p/allen p/allen wrote:

Heck Pete my floor is still original at 37 years


Jeff,
Do you have any of the original? Take a look at the US Vinyl site and see what you can find. There may be some that are even closer to the original than the ones I posted.

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Posted By: connorssons
Date Posted: December-06-2009 at 11:08am
Good morning pete! no i dont, boat was pretty rough when baught it. had a tree growing out of floor. any help on original pattern would be a great help. thank you jeff


Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: December-06-2009 at 11:10am
Jeff,
For a 72, I'd go with something like the second sample I posted. Maybe a little lighter in color.

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Posted By: clarkebar
Date Posted: December-06-2009 at 11:19am
My 62 floor coovering was not the basket weave. It is more like raised lines set at 45 degrees from each other. They did the samething on mine as Bruce's 63. They used small strips of the same material and nails to hold the electrical wires, fuel line, exhaust hoses and cables. I can't find anything even close to the original. I have most of the original flooring but it is hard and brittle so I will pick one that is close.


Posted By: connorssons
Date Posted: December-06-2009 at 11:21am
Thanks pete! if i can figure out how to post pics, ill show you my project.


Posted By: Brady
Date Posted: December-06-2009 at 11:22am
Many of the supply houses will send samples for a nominal fee, you really should do this as the image on the screen can be quite misleading.

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Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: December-06-2009 at 11:27am
Eric, what color is your floor?

Getting samples is a good idea. The dot stuff I ordered was much thinner than I expected.

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Posted By: RainDog
Date Posted: December-06-2009 at 12:08pm
Ditto. My kickboard covering and exhaust straps and fuel line support all used the same white rubber/vinyl chevron pattern

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Posted By: clarkebar
Date Posted: December-06-2009 at 6:27pm
Bruce,
My flooring is white. The only concern I have about the newer style is the thickness. My old one is quite thick. If you get some samples that you are happy with please let me know.


Posted By: The Godfather
Date Posted: December-06-2009 at 10:33pm

Dave,

Here are a couple of shots of my floor.

Hope this will help.






Dave


Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: December-07-2009 at 10:35am
Eric, Sound like that flooring is what may have been used in the later boats, too, only a different color. I'll let you know what I find, please do the same.

Steve, what did you use in your Classic?

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Posted By: RainDog
Date Posted: December-07-2009 at 11:36am
Bruce,
I compromised. I used black ribbed rubber from McMaster. Since my interior deviated sufficiently from original, I didn't go to great extremes to match the flooring. If I do find white chevron vinyl flooring, to refit the boat would only take an afternoon.



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Posted By: Mojo
Date Posted: December-07-2009 at 12:28pm
Dave,
That salt and pepper pattern is available through Cabellas. Thanks for the pics !!!! I think that would go in the cuda quite nicely.. Any way to "Mic" this thickness of the covering ?

The white rubber material is also available as well as the black. Steve, I like the black floor... Can't imagine white white would look like after a season...

Peter, what was the thickness of the original cross hatch material? Is a 20+ ounce material thick enough to wear?

Pics are great guys. We'll obviously find out that a number of materials would have been used as CC continued on their tradition of using what was around and available at the time...

Thanks
Moj'

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Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: December-07-2009 at 12:39pm
The black looks good in the Classic. Steve, your interior came out really nice.
Here's white in Reid's Classic. It looks good too, but no doubt requires more cleaning.


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Posted By: RainDog
Date Posted: December-07-2009 at 12:40pm
I like the black floor as well. It visually 'grounds' the interior. Surprisingly, it does not get really hot in the sun. Maybe in the south it would be an issue, but up here a little extra heat is usually welcome.

Being rubber and black, it is pretty easy to keep clean. I don't think white would be a problem though.

Anyhow, until I can get the correct white chevron material, I'll keep what is there.

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Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: December-07-2009 at 1:25pm
Originally posted by Mojo Mojo wrote:

Dave,
That salt and pepper pattern is available through Cabellas. Thanks for the pics !!!! I think that would go in the cuda quite nicely.. Any way to "Mic" this thickness of the covering?

I was wondering the same thing... Dave (Godfather), is that the original floor covering? It looks more like Nautolex, which is a marine vinyl floor covering, rather than the "wall covering" that was supposed to have been original in the Mustangs in the late 60's and early 70's. I requested Nautolex samples sometime back and think the "shark" looks really good. Not sure how close to original it is though.



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Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: December-07-2009 at 1:39pm
The 68 Barracuda we picked up looks like it has the natural Nautolex on the kickboard. I have not removed the kick board yet, so haven't been able to judge if it may be orginal.

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Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: December-07-2009 at 4:09pm
Bruce,
I've got the original blue Nautolex on the floor of the X55. The stuff is quite heavy and I say it would be difficult to bend around corners like the kick on your Cuda. I'd say what you're looking at on the kick is the heavy weight vinyl wall covering.

Dave,
I've seen the weight of the vinyl wall covering that CC used when working at Watercraft Sales in the late 60's and early 70's. I also remember it in the 70 Cuda I had as well as Charlie's (brady) 70 Cuda. I'd say the 21oz. material is heavier than the original.

Also, I know Charlie sent away for sample vinyl wall coverings. I'll ask him if he remembers the weights and can compare them to the original in his boat.

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Posted By: The Godfather
Date Posted: December-07-2009 at 10:18pm

Tim,

I was told the flooring vinyl is original in my boat.

The wood was replaced, but he used the same vinyl.

He was able to remove it from the original wood.

That's what he told me.

Dave



Posted By: MartyMabe
Date Posted: December-09-2009 at 2:07am
Which would be period correct for the ole 66? I remember the white flooring and the aluminum strips and upon talking to my dad he says about a year after we had it, this is when he went on a vacation for 4 days with the boat,and came back with some kind of astro turf in it, that he had taken it to a guy that owned a wooden Chris Craft,that he had just redone.He tells me that they took the flooring up,and refoamed it,refloored it,and that's that.I remember that mahogoney CC was rad! He was a fireman(my dad) and worked the 3 days on,4 days off, and every 3rd month got 2 weeks off!I'd just been talking to him about this vinyl floor post and he tells me about that. I told him that I thought it had the vinyl floor at one time. He said that even though I was 8 or 9 ,he thought I would have remembered all that.

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Posted By: Keeganino
Date Posted: January-09-2010 at 11:59pm
Originally posted by The Godfather The Godfather wrote:


Dave,

Here are a couple of shots of my floor.

Hope this will help.






Dave

Dave,

Thanks for the pics and what a beauty you have! Please help me out with these questions.

I pulled up the carpet in my 73 skier and the floor underneath looks like the first picture here, but is in terrible condition as it has been under rotting carpet for who knows how long. Is that surface just the glass deck or is that actually something glued down. The second picture looks like a completely different surface altogether. Is the second picture the vinyl? I do not like the idea of putting carpet back in now that I know it was not stock, but I have to do something.

Thanks
Keegan


Posted By: MartyMabe
Date Posted: January-10-2010 at 2:51am
It is a heavy weight vinyl, Mr. Pete Brainerd says.Hang on to what ever pieces you have! Take the boat inside, let it get good and warm, then maybe use a heat gun,blow dryer, and your wife's plastic spatula and see if you can get some good useable samples to take to a wall covering store.If you need help,give me a call
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Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: January-10-2010 at 10:00am
Keegan,
Just as Marty stated, it is a heavy weight vinyl wall covering. Take his advice and get a piece of the original into a wall covering store. Don't trust what you find looking at pictures as colors and patterns vari. You can even see the big difference in the two pictures Dave posted of the same floor. Lots of different patterns and colors were used through the years. Keep us informed of what you find.

The original should only be stapled at the edges under trim and the cockpit side base.

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Posted By: Mojo
Date Posted: January-11-2010 at 1:28pm
Yes, you could be the hero of many if you could find something that looks original and is readily available... Good Luck with the task. Keep us informed !!

Moj'

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Posted By: 71Nautique
Date Posted: January-20-2010 at 11:06pm
Hi Everyone. Please let me know what you think of this. Here are some photos of a 21 ounce basketweave vinyl wallcovering material I located along with a piece of original vinyl I found in the bilge of our '67 Barracuda. The color and pattern of the original piece are exactly like what I remember of the original vinyl in our '71 SN. The new material has a very similar pattern, but it's a smaller and finer pattern. This is the only thing I can find that's even close to the original. I haven't ordered it yet. It comes in a double roll 27" wide by 28' long which will be barely long enough for the Barracuda's flooring. The cost with tax and shipping will be $95. I'm planning to glue it down to the 3/8" plywood flooring, wrap it around the backside and staple the edges there and seal the edges with paint. I think the gluing will make it much stronger and more durable. I will appreciate any comments and advice.   Thanks - Larry


Posted By: Keeganino
Date Posted: January-20-2010 at 11:30pm
Larry that looks pretty good to me. I do not have a sample of mine nearly that big to go from but I would say it was similar to that.

Based on what I have read on this site you might use 3M 5200 to seal those edges instead of paint. We would all love to see pictures of a new vinyl floor!


Posted By: storm34
Date Posted: January-20-2010 at 11:33pm
Good find! I think I have a few pieces of the basket weave from my Skier in my pile of saved stuff. I'll try and locate it, but it'll be a few days...everything is covered in ice here in Iowa!

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Posted By: MartyMabe
Date Posted: January-21-2010 at 1:34am
Web address? Or what's the name of the joint where you're getting this?

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Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: January-21-2010 at 8:44am
Larry,
I admire your searching and finding what looks like the original flooring. Good work!

I'm not following you with the edge sealing. Are you trying to seal the edge of the 3/8 ply flooring? If so, we need to talk to some more about epoxy, glass cloth and CPES. BTW, you may want to consider going to 1/2" ply. 3/8 isn't much.

EDIT: Double check (call) that the vinyl is only available 27" wide. I just got off the phone with Charlie (brady) and all the samples he got were available in 54" widths. Are you dealing with just a distributor or did you go to the manufacturer? I'd hate to see you have to seam up the middle of the boat.

Have we discussed the stringer condition of the boat?

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Posted By: 71Nautique
Date Posted: January-22-2010 at 12:47am
This 21 ounce material is definitely thinner than the original stuff. The original has some type of woven fabric backing which made it thicker. The new material is completely vinyl and should be waterproof. I pulled hard on the corners of my samples and it stretches a bit, but does not tear. That's why I think that gluing it down will make it even stronger and more durable. I'm going to glue it on the top surface of the flooring and wrap it around the edges to the backside of the plywood and use SS staples there.   

I replaced the wood and vinyl in our '71 SN in 1978. The material was also heavier with a fabric backing like the original, but doesn't have the same texture / pattern. I glued that down then and it's still there. I am concerned that gluing that vinyl may have worked better because of its fabric backing. This new 21 ounce vinyl does have some woven-type texture on its backside, though. Also, the 27" width is not a problem. I just wish the double roll this stuff comes in had a few more running feet!

We are removing some waterlogged foam now. There was water there, mostly in the exhaust hose wells, but so far it hasn't been as bad as I expected. There are some extra screw holes in the tops of the stringers behind the engine and I probed them and the wood is solid there. So far, this boat doesn't seem to have anything close to the saturation I found in the '71 SN back in 1991.

I appreciate everyone's comments, questions and suggestions as I consider this material for our '67.

Thanks! - Larry

          


Posted By: Keeganino
Date Posted: February-05-2010 at 8:57pm
Originally posted by The Godfather The Godfather wrote:


Here are a couple of shots of my floor.

Hope this will help.

Dave


I found 2 strips of what I believe to be some of the original vinyl flooring based on this picture by The Godfather. They were used to hold the air hoses in place before the foam was poured into the cavity. Any tips on getting the foam off of the surface so when I take it somewhere for a replacement they can see what it looks like?

My wife thinks I am crazy getting all excited over this... What do Ya'll think





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Posted By: reidp
Date Posted: February-06-2010 at 12:15am
Originally posted by Keeganino Keeganino wrote:

My wife thinks I am crazy getting all excited over this... What do Ya'll think


Keegan, my wife THOUGHT I was crazy back in 1997 when I bought our 3rd Correct Craft. Now she knows I am. But she's also been to 10+ CC owner reunions, met lots of great people and had tons of fun. So what does that make her? Tell your wife it all makes for a better relationship as you'll obviously have no time for bars and other women. Just hope though, that she doesn't take the road of a college girlfriend of mine who actually told me almost 28 yrs ago, that she thought I loved my '58 Starflight more than I loved her. I do miss the boat the most.

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Posted By: Keeganino
Date Posted: February-06-2010 at 12:38am
Great story Reid- you did not sell the Starflight for that college bizzle did you? You had one!? My wife knows I am crazy and am going to do whatever I dream up anyway so there's not much point trying to stop me. If I want this boat to look like it did in 73 then I am going to be obsessed till it is. I am not letting go of the swim platform though. That is one of my favorite places to be. On the teak!

As for cleaning my idea right now is to get it nice and warm and use a polyester brush to try and remove the foam that is stuck to the finish.

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Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: February-06-2010 at 11:30am
Originally posted by Keeganino Keeganino wrote:

As for cleaning my idea right now is to get it nice and warm and use a polyester brush to try and remove the foam that is stuck to the finish.


This is probably your only safe approach. Anything that would attack the foam will go after the vinyl too.

Don't spend too much time at it though. The scraps used may not even be the same material they used on the floor. Just take a look at the pictures in the thread again and then go out and see what's close. I think you'll be able to find a vinyl wall covering damn close and appropriate.

Yes Reid, What happened to the Starflight? Do you know where it is now? "Y" block?

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Posted By: Keeganino
Date Posted: February-06-2010 at 3:14pm
Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:

The scraps used may not even be the same material they used on the floor. Just take a look at the pictures in the thread again and then go out and see what's close. I think you'll be able to find a vinyl wall covering damn close and appropriate.


I used the poly brush and this sample cleaned up easily. Since it was entombed in the foam it is very well preserved. It is supple and flexible almost as if it were new. I think I have great evidence that this is the original material covering the floor. I can't imagine that on any wall anywhere that would look good! The late 60's and early 70's were sort of an interior design disaster. I can see why this would be the perfect floor for the boat though. It has a lot of texture and is very heavy duty.

This angle shows how deep the texture is


I am very happy with this sample. Great color!


I started reading this thread before I cut out the floor so I was looking for scraps of vinyl still stuck to the floor underneath the carpet. Thank you CCF again! I think that is a ringer!


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Posted By: reidp
Date Posted: February-07-2010 at 1:38am
Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:


Yes Reid, What happened to the Starflight? Do you know where it is now? "Y" block?
   

No idea of its whereabouts. I had it from 1981 until only about '88. I was living in So Fla heavy into the salt water boating thing, never thinking I'd ever live back on fresh water. My dad was storing it for me and had a guy bug him for several years to buy it and I finally said OK. I'd done a very poor resto job on it as a college jr/sr. Originally had the Y-block 292 and Dearbo reduction with angle-drive similar to modern PCM 1.23. Had trans rebuilt, but still only ran while oil was cool. Heated up and slipped. Got tired of that quickly, found and installed a Merc 302-215 inboard to get the boat running consistently and that's what it sold with. THEN, I lost the 292 package in a storage deal. The things we do as kids. If only there'd been CCF back then.

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Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: February-07-2010 at 5:02pm
Originally posted by Keeganino Keeganino wrote:

This angle shows how deep the texture is


Boy, Id love to see that original sample compared to Nautolex "shark". The Nautolex may have a bit more black in it, but its pretty similar and the texture looks darn close. It might be worth requesting a sample for yourself to see how it compares side by side.



http://www.garysupholstery.com/ntomarfloor.html - http://www.garysupholstery.com/ntomarfloor.html

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Posted By: MartyMabe
Date Posted: February-07-2010 at 5:25pm
Here's my sample from Gary's . It's the sandstone color sample. Doesn't look very thick.



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Posted By: Keeganino
Date Posted: February-07-2010 at 6:32pm
Thanks guys I will do that. I would not have known to look for those pieces if I had not found this amazing website! Cool stuff

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Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: February-07-2010 at 7:20pm
Marty,
I'm curious as to why you went to a upholsterer for vinyl wall covering? Does he handle the stuff?

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Posted By: MartyMabe
Date Posted: February-07-2010 at 7:58pm
Isn't this the place everyone's talking about where to get it?
Gary's Upholstery Products in Tampa,Florida.
Also it's a sample of the Nautolex Marine Flooring.
Hey by the way, I went to my wall covering place here in High Point,NC, Huffman's Paint and Wallcovering, they've been in business since 1948,
Now get this- the guy said-
Vinyl wall covering on the floor of your boat!?
The 3 people looked at each other and gave the snickering and eye movements.They said, that in no certain terms that any wall covering would hold up on the floor of a boat.I told them I would bring them a piece someday and let them tell me what it was then.

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Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: February-07-2010 at 8:23pm
I'd say Nautolex is the ticket.

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Posted By: Keeganino
Date Posted: February-07-2010 at 8:29pm
Originally posted by TRBenj TRBenj wrote:

Originally posted by Keeganino Keeganino wrote:




Boy, Id love to see that original sample compared to Nautolex "shark". The Nautolex may have a bit more black in it, but its pretty similar and the texture looks darn close. It might be worth requesting a sample for yourself to see how it compares side by side.



http://www.garysupholstery.com/ntomarfloor.html - http://www.garysupholstery.com/ntomarfloor.html


Marty is near by and has some samples already so I hope to compare for myself soon. These look so close to what I have in the pictures. AWESOME!

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Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: February-07-2010 at 8:55pm
Originally posted by MartyMabe MartyMabe wrote:

Isn't this the place everyone's talking about where to get it?
Gary's Upholstery Products in Tampa,Florida.
Also it's a sample of the Nautolex Marine Flooring.
Hey by the way, I went to my wall covering place here in High Point,NC, Huffman's Paint and Wallcovering, they've been in business since 1948,
Now get this- the guy said-
Vinyl wall covering on the floor of your boat!?
The 3 people looked at each other and gave the snickering and eye movements.They said, that in no certain terms that any wall covering would hold up on the floor of a boat.I told them I would bring them a piece someday and let them tell me what it was then.


Well, all I can say there has been plenty of "snickering and eye movements" once it was known CC used the stuff. Did they have vinyl wall covering or did you just walk out the door?? Maybe they don't carry it? They must wear street shoes and go dancing in there boats?

I'd also question that sample of Nautolex you got. It looks too thin.

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Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: February-08-2010 at 10:54am
Is Gary's selling vinyl wallpaper as Nautolex? Someone ought to notify Nautolex!

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Posted By: Keeganino
Date Posted: February-08-2010 at 1:15pm
I think you guys are confused. Gary's has sent some people samples already and nobody is saying its fake. The incident Marty is talking about happened at a local paint store. I've been there, these guys don't have a clue, but have been around town long enough you would think they could point you in the right direction.



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Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: February-08-2010 at 1:41pm
Originally posted by Keeganino Keeganino wrote:

I think you guys are confused. Gary's has sent some people samples already and nobody is saying its fake. The incident Marty is talking about happened at a local paint store. I've been there, these guys don't have a clue, but have been around town long enough you would think they could point you in the right direction.



Keegan,
It's quite possible there's confusion. Wouldn't be the first nor the last time with me!! However, the people who are really confused are at the paint store like you mentioned! Going back to the on line sources posted earlier in the thread would be appropriate.

Regarding the "Nautolex", It to me just looks too thin. Maybe someone else bought is making it now and they are making it thinner???

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Posted By: Keeganino
Date Posted: April-07-2010 at 12:44pm
I am ordering from Gary's. The samples they sent me are close enough to the original for me. I am going to use the above pictured "Shark" pattern on the floors. It will be $105 for four 72" wide yards delivered to my door. Their customer service has been great- answering my questions and quickly sending the samples I wanted to see.   

The aluminum T trim is coming from Mcmaster.com

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Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: April-07-2010 at 12:50pm
What trim did you order? When I ordered mine last year, they only had the smooth and not the ribbed.

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Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: April-07-2010 at 12:57pm
Im guessing its the 1-1/4" grooved T-trim?



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Posted By: Keeganino
Date Posted: April-07-2010 at 1:02pm
Riley- I have not actually placed my order yet. I just found the site last night thanks to Tim and Pete. I hope they have the ribbed since that is closer to the original.

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Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: April-07-2010 at 1:16pm
The 3/4" ribbed is what is original. The 1 1/4" is huge. Unfortunately they only have the 3/4" in the smooth top.

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Posted By: Keeganino
Date Posted: April-07-2010 at 2:58pm
Originally posted by Riley Riley wrote:

The 3/4" ribbed is what is original. The 1 1/4" is huge. Unfortunately they only have the 3/4" in the smooth top.


That is a big difference. Can anyone else confirm the 3/4"? I know Tim was guessing.

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Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: April-07-2010 at 3:22pm
Ill see if I can measure mine this weekend. Bruce is right that 1-1/4" is larger than original. I could swear that my '71 is bigger than 3/4" though. Id guess it was 1", but I could be wrong. Did you see if Taco Marine had anything like that?

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Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: April-07-2010 at 3:38pm
Keeganino, when I say orginal, I'm thinking 1960's. I don't know what was in the 1970's.

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Posted By: Keeganino
Date Posted: April-07-2010 at 10:13pm
I have not checked out taco. Have never heard of them but am headed that way in a minute.

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Posted By: MartyMabe
Date Posted: April-08-2010 at 12:41am
Hey, why not get the 1 &1/4 ribbed ,if that's the only trim that can be found and trim about 1/8 or so off both sides. Wouldn't that work if no 'OE' size can be found?

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Posted By: 71Nautique
Date Posted: April-30-2010 at 5:21am
Discussion on locating the correct aluminum T trim for the flooring seemed to stop after April 7. Has anyone located a source for this material? I looked into Taco Metals, but they only have a smooth top T trim and the bottom is too long and would have to be sawed off. My '71 SN and '68 Barracuda both have ribbed T trim that is 7/8" wide on top (the A measurement) and 7/16" deep (the C measurement). The Barracuda is missing all the sections forward of the engine. Please let me know if anyone has any advice on this. Thanks!


Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: April-30-2010 at 3:50pm
I just did a on line search for aluminum T molding and http://www.tapeease.com/aluminum%20t-moldings.htm - came up with this on the first try





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Posted By: 71Nautique
Date Posted: May-02-2010 at 4:45am
Wow! Thanks a lot for the help! I never came up with anything other than looking at the stuff from Taco. I'm going to call this place, Tape-Ease in Wisconsin on Monday morning. Thanks again - Larry



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