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Topic: floormats my but
Posted By: eric lavine
Subject: floormats my but
Date Posted: January-28-2010 at 2:03pm
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lets watch and see how this one unfolds ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
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Posted By: hotboat
Date Posted: January-28-2010 at 2:16pm
Eric are you ok?  ------------- Brian |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: January-28-2010 at 2:23pm
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The report I saw last night blamed the floor mats, but went on to say it even happens without the floor mats and left it at that. Great reporting. ------------- |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: January-28-2010 at 2:50pm
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"Fly by wire"?? at least the planes throttles aren't getting stuck!!! ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: anthonylizardi
Date Posted: January-28-2010 at 3:43pm
 maybe that explain the sudden turn that the Ethiopian airliner took before crashing in Lebanon, the rudder got stuck in the mat.
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Posted By: quinner
Date Posted: January-28-2010 at 3:49pm
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What Flavor is that Jap Car Cool-Aid now?
------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1143" rel="nofollow - Mi Bowt |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: January-28-2010 at 4:00pm
How many of the models in question were made in the US? The 4Runner isnt on the list and was built in Japan. Just sayin!  ------------- |
Posted By: 81nautique
Date Posted: January-28-2010 at 4:09pm
Hate to say this CQ but the part in question was made is USA, Ohio if I remember correctly!!!! Edit, it's made by a US company but manufactured in Canada. ------------- You can’t change the wind but you can adjust your sails |
quinner wrote:Posted By: 79nautique
Date Posted: January-28-2010 at 4:28pm
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The company is in Elkhart, IN and made in Canada by CTS for Toyota
CTS on Wednesday issued a statement saying the pedals were made to Toyota's design and now that design is being beefed up ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=756&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1979&yrend=1979 - 79 nautique |
Posted By: 86BFN
Date Posted: January-28-2010 at 5:24pm
Obama has been in Elkhart several times... 
On a side note I see he gave the UK basketball team a pep talk on tues.  ------------- 👣 Steve http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=4057&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1986&yrend=1986" rel="nofollow - 86 Barefoot Nautique 89 Martinique Former Owner: 93 Hydrodyne 350 MAG |
Posted By: SN206
Date Posted: January-28-2010 at 5:26pm
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Sad thing is, I'm towing to St. John's w/ my '10 Tundra ------------- ...those who have fallen and those who will. |
Posted By: harddock
Date Posted: January-28-2010 at 5:50pm
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They can just go up to Washington and Obie will cut them a check for the money lost during this recall. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=4487" rel="nofollow - 1998 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: January-28-2010 at 6:18pm
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Posted By: Waterdog
Date Posted: January-28-2010 at 9:44pm
My Dog's name is Obie and he has taken offense to that !
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Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: January-28-2010 at 10:17pm
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they say if your pedal is loose than you will be fine for a while, its a glitch and a mechanical problem that i thought about weeks ago ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: peter1234
Date Posted: January-28-2010 at 10:51pm
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i heard it was designed by an engineer named hairakue kamakzee ------------- former skylark owner now a formula but I cant let this place go |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: January-28-2010 at 11:13pm
I don't think too many Toyotas would have fly by wire Pete,I think you'll only find it on high end cars,I know some BMW's have it.I seem to remember Eric talking about his development of a fly by string system.He better get his patent up to date someone my be needing it  Remember the good old days sitting in a toll booth with an Audi 5000 behind you and a Ford Pinto in front?------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: 86BFN
Date Posted: January-28-2010 at 11:25pm
I think he meant to say Barry! ------------- 👣 Steve http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=4057&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1986&yrend=1986" rel="nofollow - 86 Barefoot Nautique 89 Martinique Former Owner: 93 Hydrodyne 350 MAG |
Posted By: quinner
Date Posted: January-29-2010 at 12:06am
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For me it is simple economics, spend locally, support thy neighbor and help them prosper, in return so will you when they buy locally as we are all happy and healthy! Not sure how the CEO, Engineer, employee or whatever in any foreign country falls into that equation. Oh yeah, forgot to mention brand loyalty, Like Correct Craft who last time I checked was still in the good ole US of A!
------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1143" rel="nofollow - Mi Bowt |
Posted By: SN206
Date Posted: January-29-2010 at 1:32am
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Agree for the most part, but have you checked to see how much of that Toyota is made in the U.S.A or why thay haven't gotten choken into bankruptcy submission by unions? Seems like thine nieghbor f**cks themselves sometimes. ------------- ...those who have fallen and those who will. |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: January-29-2010 at 1:46am
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The only ones choking tho are GM and Chrysler, aren't the United Auto workers at Ford also? Seems to be more of a management issue. Whiteacre will save GM, he can do anything.After all he put the Bell System back together and showed us we were doing it wrong all those years! ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: SN206
Date Posted: January-29-2010 at 1:49am
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I hope so. ------------- ...those who have fallen and those who will. |
Posted By: Morfoot
Date Posted: January-29-2010 at 9:21am
Ryan..........Your not alone. I know I'm asking for it by publishing it here but I own one them Camrys. Kim and I both love the car. We looked at all makes and the Yota was the nicest of them all. I do however tow the boat with an 86 Chevy or 00 Durango. I'm doing my part. ------------- "Morfoot; He can ski. He can wakeboard.He can cook chicken.He can create his own self-named beverage, & can also apparently fly. A man of many talents."72 Mustang "Kermit",88 SN Miss Scarlett, 99 SN "Sherman" |
Posted By: MI-nick
Date Posted: January-29-2010 at 10:01am
Toyota pays me locally, and in return I supported eric locally last spring... ------------- As far as I can tell, I'm not quite sure... |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: January-29-2010 at 10:13am
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I will start this post with i have bought a foriegn car new in the past, when the times were different, when chrysler was offering the k car, chevy was offering the chevette, ford was offering the tempo-rary...the were trying to push some real POS on us.
Its 2010 the stock market will crash again, In the winter time i work on both American and asian cars, to start american car qaulity is far superior to the jap cars, to repair a jap car is twice the price, we put them on the frame rack and they tear apart at the seams all the spot welds pop and there are less of them, the steel used is thinner, and they are passing off what the big three did in the 80's. thier cost of business is much less because of benefits and to pass off a kia made right here in Westpoint Geargia is the biggest marketing scam on this earth. i see more totaled jap cars than american cars because of quality. everybody right and left are looking to a guy to get this economy going, when Clinton left office there was 500 billion dollars in surplus, when Bush left we were 2 trillion in deficit and that was dropped on a mans lap, he looked to the left and said if you have a better solution on the healthcare crisis i extend my invitation to you to sit down and we will discuss this and work it out. it really is fcd out there and is getting worse at least in my town, fixing a country starts at me and you, if 300,000,000 million Americans refused or boycotted to buy one of those jap tin cans for one year, the smoke stacks at all of these shutdown buildings.... the smoke would blow again, there is a struggle in Washington on how the economy is going to be fixed and they dont have the answers. I hope Toyota falls so hard on its ass, to a point to where it cant recover. i feel better now, floormats my ass ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: skicat
Date Posted: January-29-2010 at 10:26am
Ok Eric, now tell us how you really feel!  ------------- Greg http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=2427&yrstart=1981&yrend=1985" rel="nofollow - 86 BFN |
Posted By: 81nautique
Date Posted: January-29-2010 at 10:37am
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Not really that relavant but we own a Pontiac..not a bad work vehichle. A Jeep Liberty...not a bad tow vehicle.
We purchased a Ford Fusion last December for Dana and that car for the money is really a pretty nice car to get around in. No luxury in any of them but the value of the Ford is pretty darn good. Only regret I have is that the 2010 Hybrid was not out when we were looking, that is supposed to be quite a vehicle for the price. ------------- You can’t change the wind but you can adjust your sails |
Posted By: PAPA
Date Posted: January-29-2010 at 10:49am
| Ford posted its first profit since 2005, the company seems to have turned it around. They have been getting good press for some time now, and it seems the American public is coming back to them. Now we just need GM and Chrysler back healthy again building cars that are of high quality and what we want. I think GM will make it, but not so sure about Chrysler. As for Toyota,they sure dragged their feet on that recall and now they are paying the price, glad I don't have one. |
Posted By: C-Bass
Date Posted: January-29-2010 at 1:46pm
"Fly by wire" (no mechanical linkage) is not just found in high end cars. I'd say the majority of cars now don't have a cable attached, and it's just a throttle position sensor that goes to the engines ECU. From what I've read on the Toyota issue, the very pedals in question are in fact electronic. ------------- Craig 67 SN 73 SN http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=6103" rel="nofollow - 99 Sport 85SN |
Posted By: SN206
Date Posted: January-29-2010 at 2:27pm
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Please correct if wrong, but I was told Ford was majority owned by a foreign company (Mazda). This is a question and not a statement Eric. ------------- ...those who have fallen and those who will. |
Posted By: MI-nick
Date Posted: January-29-2010 at 3:28pm
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thanks for the support eric...how many people does honda employ in ohio?? ------------- As far as I can tell, I'm not quite sure... |
Posted By: PAPA
Date Posted: January-29-2010 at 3:34pm
| Ford is not majority owned by a foreign company (Mazda). Ford actually owned a minority share in Mazda until last year when they sold it off. |
Posted By: harddock
Date Posted: January-29-2010 at 4:46pm
Sorry pooch I meant obammmy ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=4487" rel="nofollow - 1998 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: SN206
Date Posted: January-29-2010 at 6:26pm
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http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/01/14/revival-of-us-automaking-awaits-if-uaw-will-follow-toyota/ - Good read on UAW and Toyota ------------- ...those who have fallen and those who will. |
Posted By: SN206
Date Posted: January-29-2010 at 6:56pm
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When I test drove trucks recently (open-minded) to purchase new, it became real obvious that the Tundra was the clearly the 1/2 ton truck leader. I am real big Chevy fan and it was a no-brainer on which truck to choose. My company provides me a new Ford every year and I'm far from impressed so I ruled out the F-150. I understand the loyalty that others have and have a complete appreciation for that. The worse thing about this recall (And every manufacturer has had them) is the stopping of production of numerous Toyota models. Consider the number of American auto workers (a lot more than you think) in the south that is now laid of (w/o salary...UAW) and are trying to care for their families. Am I pissed about this whole recall thing..?Yes. I am I eating my words now when I talking up my Toyota truck to all my buddies…? Yes. I’m just looking at the big picture. It is a no win situation for a lot of people in the south who are employed by Toyota or Honda, Mercedes ect. ------------- ...those who have fallen and those who will. |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: January-30-2010 at 10:37am
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your not old enough to remember real good times, the 70s when one person worked and the mother stayed home and took care of thier children instilling values, the father went off to make valves or stamped doors on a 50 hour week socking money away in auto stocks, and devoted the weekends to his family, 2 cars in the drive, they lived in a modest 2500 sq ft home proudly purchased on one income. we went to school with no fears of getting shot or to pass the time we went outside and played with things that kept us thin.
General motors was so large at one time the US government wanted to step in for fears of a take over. then the 80's hit 1 out of 100 cars on the road were nip cars because the US carmakers started to push some junk thus starting to loose the market share and the persona begun with Jap cars are better than american cars and that stuck. it flowed over to your generation along with values not learned because now ma and pa are both are at work trying to srape a living, the big three are geared to supply millions of cars, paying bennies to retirees, paying good wages but they are not selling cars, the only solution is to diversify, have parts made in Mexico, Canada, even Tiawan, just to compete, sell off divisions that are below normal profit margins to sustaine. a car is an average of a 25k investment stretched over a period of 3 to 6 yearswith interest. now i would say from start to finish to ASSEMBLE a nip car in one of your so called american built foriegn pos factories down south that they set up in some cornfield, maybe 100 man hours at 15 bucks an hour, that equates to about 1500.00 to build a nipper in the US, and yes the profits dont stay here they are re-invested into Japans economy or China's economy and now South Korea's economy. I really dont give a *************** what car you drive because the damage is done and thats what drops us into recessions or much worse depressions, Our government didnt do this to us, it was the every day choice we make that did that to us. In closing its not about what you go out and buy its what caused the mess were in as i said i bought a new nipper in 1986 and it rotted to the ground because I too believed thier cars were superior. it is 2010 and the American car companies figured out how to build a quality product and the nips are pushing some real POS's on the americans and snickering and counting ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: January-30-2010 at 10:46am
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BTW, as you drive down the road count the ratio of foriegn cars to american cars, the ratio is about 60/40
you tell me what this country can produce and sell to make it viable in the world economy, I'll never sell out again and that comes from a family of UAW's, i dont care if they were paying someone to push a broom for 38.00's an hour, that means he could afford a boat that would break and i could fix it. lol ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: quinner
Date Posted: January-30-2010 at 11:00am
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Gotta love the Ericonomics!! What's next, they're going to tell us Kirin Beer is Better then Budweiser or Coors Light.
The whole my Foreign Car was built here BS has always driven me crazy. Buy American as it may be your own job or business that it saves one day!! ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1143" rel="nofollow - Mi Bowt |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: January-30-2010 at 11:57am
I had a beautiful '94 F150 for 11 years. Its transmision was made in Japan by Mazda. And the Mazda PUs were Rangers. ------------- |
Posted By: MI-nick
Date Posted: January-30-2010 at 1:42pm
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seriously though, how many people does honda employ in ohio?? how many of them own boats that break down??
there is a very good reason the camry, accord, civic, and corolla outsell any american car by a large margin and there is a very good reason most of the foreign owned auto plants are down south. as much as many people wish we did, we don't live in the 1950's anymore. ------------- As far as I can tell, I'm not quite sure... |
Posted By: Donald80SN
Date Posted: January-30-2010 at 2:12pm
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I have always been a Chevy Fan and own two ( 87, 2004) right now. My company provides me with a 08 Ford Taurus and I have really been impressed with this car for the 70 K Miles that I have driven it.
People who say America can not build qualilty really need to drive some of these cars before they just buy a foreign model. However, I now struggle that my GM is now run by Obama. JMO. My Boat is powered by FORD. Donald
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Posted By: SN206
Date Posted: January-30-2010 at 3:25pm
Agree, and yes I would really really like GM and others to succeed. However, GM allowed it to happen for reasons a lot of people find hard to swallow and they themselves should own up to that. But, with that being said the exact same thing is happening to several U.S. industries and it receives far less press because of our administration's choke hold on the press or their particular policy at that time. Take gasoline / oil / or natural gas for instance. Take a minute to think were it is coming from when you’re filling that tank up and drinking your slurpee. There is a 10 out of 12 chance your buying it from a root country who at this very minute would rather see you and your family dead than anything else. That is a "desicion you make" every day rather than every three to six years. Why not make a point to buy American "product" rather than Chavez' or Mohammed’s. Why not support that industry or any others that can be made or produced here in the U.S.? In, closing if that particular person "makes $35+ dollars an hour pushing a broom", all I can say is that is really f**cked up when someone driving an ambulance or a teacher makes a third of that. You want a change? We all want the "real good times" back. It's too late for us. You have to start with the youth and instill a work ethic in them that you had when you were young. Revamp the education system so that we can compete not only in the auto industry, but more importantly the world market. So that a teacher can leave her broom pushing job and get back into the classroom and make and impact. ------------- ...those who have fallen and those who will. |
Posted By: SN206
Date Posted: January-30-2010 at 3:38pm
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Sorry for the rant. Yes, I am a Chevy fan and am doing my part by buying a new one this spring. I'll allow the original topic to return by asking has anyone heard what Toyota is planning to do to fix the root cause of the recall? ------------- ...those who have fallen and those who will. |
Posted By: 05 210
Date Posted: January-30-2010 at 4:10pm
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Oh no. Not the domestic vs foreign debate again. How 'bout we change the subject to something less contraversial. Like oil w/ ZDDP additives
I do not agree w/ Toyota covering this up initially, but the simple fact is most of the parts on cars are produced by vendors. When there is a recall, it's usually the vendors fault, not the manufacturers. I read somewhere recently that Ford is investigating gas pedals made by the same company as a precaution. Bottom line..... these things can happen to any automaker be it Toyota,Ford,Hyundai,GM assembled in the USA or assembled oversees. It is a global economy now and I doubt that it will change anytime soon. I don't care where a company is based out of, if they make good products and stand behind them,and take care of me "the customer" the way I think they should then they will get my business. My sister had a 6 month old BMW last year that was giving her issues. It was in the shop for a repeat repair and the manager of the dealership called her and said.....and I quote: "Why don't you just come pick out a new car.We will not be able to take care of this situation in a reasonable amount of time and want you to be happy." They gave her a brand new car, same model, a year newer ,zero miles, & upgraded her to an auto trans for no extra charge.They did not have it in stock, had to get it from another dealer, and gave her a brand new car to drive for the 2 weeks it took to get it. How many domestic car companies do you think would have done that? Mike ------------- http:/diaries/details.asp?ID=2219" rel="nofollow - Air Nautique 210 Team 640 hours, not 1 regret |
Posted By: SN206
Date Posted: January-30-2010 at 4:25pm
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Funny, just got a call from a Toyota rep. I was told that the issue in most cases appears to be a "sticky" then later stuck accelerator. Most are aware of the problems before the later. I was told the replacement part was still in production and that they would later mail out the official recall letter to bring it in. ------------- ...those who have fallen and those who will. |
Posted By: peter1234
Date Posted: January-30-2010 at 8:11pm
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i think we should argue
red head or blond , dark skin or freckles pleasently plump or twiggy stay at home or power woman older than you or younger athlete or painted and puffed ------------- former skylark owner now a formula but I cant let this place go |
Posted By: 86BFN
Date Posted: January-30-2010 at 8:23pm
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Silent or Screamer... ------------- 👣 Steve http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=4057&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1986&yrend=1986" rel="nofollow - 86 Barefoot Nautique 89 Martinique Former Owner: 93 Hydrodyne 350 MAG |
Posted By: peter1234
Date Posted: January-30-2010 at 8:52pm
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blind or deaf
------------- former skylark owner now a formula but I cant let this place go |
Posted By: peter1234
Date Posted: January-30-2010 at 8:56pm
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1 leg or both ------------- former skylark owner now a formula but I cant let this place go |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: January-30-2010 at 10:03pm
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make America, American again, in my eyes you tundra boys should be pulling a toyata epic, if you were as loyal as you are to Correct Craft...and im sure one of your first reasons you own a CC is because it is made right here in the good ole USA. you have no ideas of the quality issues of these cars. have an open mind when you go look for a new car, just dont head down to the Toyota or Honda dealer go drive a chrysler, ford or chevy and im sure you will be surprised.
it just seems the 20 to 35 generation is fixated on these foriegn cars, put your neighbor back to work not our foriegn friends ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: January-30-2010 at 10:14pm
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SN, give me 5 things or products that could make this country a global leader and prosper, take this figure, 150 million and times that roughly by 25 thousand and tell me what you come up with, right now about 50% of that figure is being wire transfered to another country....imagine the taxes not generated on that lost income. oh yeah put a bungee on your gas pedal just in case lol ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: peter1234
Date Posted: January-30-2010 at 10:18pm
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eric how did you pass up that lead in for you ------------- former skylark owner now a formula but I cant let this place go |
Posted By: 05 210
Date Posted: January-30-2010 at 10:26pm
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I hear you Eric. I'm as patriotic as the next guy,but I'm also a realist.
Three vehicles in our driveway right now: Dodge Ram Jeep Commander Toyota Prius(please don't ask) I'm fairly certain all of the big three manufacture vehicles outside of the US that are sold here. My wife is a car whore and over the 17 years we've been together she has literally owned 2 dozen new vehicles. Some foreign,most domestic, some nice ones, some real sh!tboxes. BTW,Don't you ride a Yamaha ? 
Mike ------------- http:/diaries/details.asp?ID=2219" rel="nofollow - Air Nautique 210 Team 640 hours, not 1 regret |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: January-30-2010 at 11:02pm
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I drive a volkswagon golf, lol really, some crack head needed some money and i couldnt refuse, plus it gets 30 to the gallon and my round trip is 64 miles, would i buy one new, No
when i buy the family vehicle the last ten new have been RED WHITE and BLUE. i really am careful as to what i buy nowadays and try to label shop but its getting pretty impossible I see and work on these cars along side with other guys and there is a difference in qaulity nowadays and they to see it, i finally let my LHS work car go at 200000 without a lick of problems and i overheated it so bad once that the oil was boiling in the pan and i had to leave it sit for 3 hours...hopped in it fired it up and off i went. I go on these tangents because everyone im in contact with is in some kind of finacial problems and they keep blaming Washington and the colored guy who is in charge. its the everyday choice we make, a car is a replenishible income to this countries economy, once a house is built its built. believe me, my mom drives a Hyundai, my brother drives a Nissan and his wife drives a Mazda. we cant sustain on this path and if i could get one person to change thier mind and that person to change someone elses mind maybe our kids will have a better future. its a fckin car it gets you from point a to point b, why not in an americn? ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: 86BFN
Date Posted: January-30-2010 at 11:31pm
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Posted By: 05 210
Date Posted: January-30-2010 at 11:54pm
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I personally, would love to see our roads full of American autos built by American labor w/ American sourced parts. Unfortunately, I firmly believe that with no foriegn competition you would be paying $60k for a Chevy Cobalt. Domestic cars are getting better quality-wise because they have to.... If they hadn't, the imports would have eventually seized the market because Ford's flagship daily driver would still be the Tempo. My wife had a 2006 Mustang GT conv. and it was one of the nicest, most solidly built american cars I have seen in a long time. I was highly impressed with everything about that car and I wish she had kept it(although I would have most likely have lost my license by now if she had!). And that is saying something, because I am a self proclaimed Ford hater. (No offense Mr Bragg)
As for Joe-bama in the Whitehouse, I'm not even going there. This countries problems are way bigger than one man will ever be. Mike ------------- http:/diaries/details.asp?ID=2219" rel="nofollow - Air Nautique 210 Team 640 hours, not 1 regret |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: January-31-2010 at 10:21am
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mike, not so true, you make money 2 ways, in pricing or in volume, the volume of american cars got cut by 60% which means the shortfallings increase the price of the car, the assembly line was created for volume and i believe the more american cars they sell the less the price of the car.
i would never sit face to face and argue this or even politics, my feelings are still out on Joe-Bama, he has did some unpublished good such as knocking down Cobra payments to the laid off crew, cutting it in half, bigger tax credits for children, he walked into a 2 trillion dollar deficit that Bush (as an evil politician) not a repub created, were no more safer today than we were in sept 2001, we got pissed off at Sadaam cause he stepped into kuwait in hopes of controlling oil, we sold him arms the year before. once we get this electric car thing sorted out we wont need the middle east. they are on the edge of pumping dry and are trying to gear up a city (Dubai) for tourism....I'll go to Las Vegas, this country was a big pool of liquid money and it is being sent in every direction and the pool keeps getting shallower because ther is nothing to replenish it with, I drove thru Detroit yesterday, if want some realism take a drive thru there....lots of tumbleweeds ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: hasbeenskier
Date Posted: January-31-2010 at 11:29am
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I ordered a 2010 Chevrolet H2500 11/2/09 and have not gotten a BUILD DATE YET! ------------- hasbeenskier |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: January-31-2010 at 11:40am
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with the Duramax??!!!!!,
i could name 10 chevy Tahoes or 1500's with over 200k on the clock, props to you, thats a work truck, put a plow on one of those Tundras and see what happens lol ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: January-31-2010 at 12:03pm
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I sold my F150 5 years ago with 200k on it and it's still on the road. My wife's Suburban is approaching 200k and has plenty of life left in it.
Without imports though, GM would still be forcing us to buy junk. And until Japan dominated the motor cylce market for a couple decades, HD was turning out junk. People don't seem to bad mouth AMF Harleys now, but back in the day they were consdered poorly made and very undepenable. ------------- |
Posted By: peter1234
Date Posted: January-31-2010 at 12:17pm
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i used to have a shovel head named spot ------------- former skylark owner now a formula but I cant let this place go |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: January-31-2010 at 12:22pm
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Bruce, sometimes thats what it takes, go buy a piece of chrome at your local harley shop and tell me what that little gold tag says on it ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: 05 210
Date Posted: January-31-2010 at 3:31pm
I still consider them poorly made and very undependable. I don't even work on them. You just solidified my previous post Bruce. If HD had not done something, they would have never made it. People will only buy junk for so long...... Eric, I don't really think we can blame all of our problems on Bush either. The govt. in general has basically sold us out and it started a long time ago. On a side note, a buddy of mine just traded in his 2007 Duramax lease on a new one. He was going to buy it outright at lease termination, but it had such a high resale value that he did way better on trading in on a new one as he was able to use that as a bargaining tool(which he bought instead of leasing)after figuring all his write-offs thru his business etc. High resale on a used American truck is a good sign. They are expensive though. I think he said the sticker on the new truck was over $55k. Mike ------------- http:/diaries/details.asp?ID=2219" rel="nofollow - Air Nautique 210 Team 640 hours, not 1 regret |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: January-31-2010 at 4:20pm
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I loved the old man, but not his kid,first impression, just by looking at him, stone cold drunk, the scotch type, his main advise came from Cheney who too looked out for his own interests (Haliburton) with the technology available they easily couldve sent in a sniper team and capped sadaam and his boys. i put the blame on the bush administration and what is killing our government is the total lack of bi-partisonship. money makes the world go round and i always thought to myself, what if i were put into that situation, what would i do? I tried to stay away from politics but couldnt take it after the state of the union and the boys on the left sittng on thier hands, this is thier president too and should do what is best for the country not for themselves ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: SN206
Date Posted: January-31-2010 at 6:02pm
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignorance - Ignorance ------------- ...those who have fallen and those who will. |
Posted By: Kristof
Date Posted: January-31-2010 at 7:31pm
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Threadjack...
Mr Lavine, I'm getting lost on reading this, for lack of better words, book of yours in this thread. As lost as your cell phone when I try to call you for a chat LOL!! ------------- - Gun control means: using BOTH hands! - Money doesn't make one happy, but when it rains cats and dogs, it's still better to cry in a Porsche than on a bicycle... |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: January-31-2010 at 7:42pm
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I'll take that one of three ways, me, the government, or yourself...and its not me so that leaves 2 ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: SN206
Date Posted: January-31-2010 at 8:37pm
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Ignorance is bliss. ------------- ...those who have fallen and those who will. |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: January-31-2010 at 9:51pm
You guy's are going to laugh at me for saying this but, when the now ceo of GM ran our place, every October they would shut off the supply system and we could not order a thing until after the 1st of the new year. Wire,phone jacks,tools,cable,you name it, to save money. Old habits are hard to break,I'm sure they will soon be able to get what they need to get your truck started down the line ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: quinner
Date Posted: January-31-2010 at 10:06pm
Blame Ross Perot for that election result!
Why even comment if that is what you have to say Ryan? ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1143" rel="nofollow - Mi Bowt |
Posted By: 05 210
Date Posted: January-31-2010 at 10:12pm
Wait much longer and it will be a 2011. I gotta give you credit, I'd have taken my business elsewhere already.3 months w/ no build date is unacceptable IMHO. Mike ------------- http:/diaries/details.asp?ID=2219" rel="nofollow - Air Nautique 210 Team 640 hours, not 1 regret |
Posted By: hasbeenskier
Date Posted: February-01-2010 at 12:00am
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With regards to the HD2500, I am disappointed with the delay, but I am not in any hurry. The 2500 I work out of has 210,000 miles and still fine. I ordered the new one for assurance that my company has a stand by if one of the trucks goes down for any reason. I am not very excited about writing the check though.
bj ------------- hasbeenskier |
Posted By: SN206
Date Posted: February-01-2010 at 12:55am
That's easy to explain. It was a means of expressing a point or making a statement that was NOT unsubstantiated, arrogant, uneducated, opinionated, biased, somewhat racial, or without forethought that my statement or comments could be taken offensively by other members of this forum. Nor would it contradict the very purpose or rules of this website's forum. Nor was it a means of trying to turn this particular thread into a pissing contest that this and other recent threads have turned into. Just simply a means of definition for others to easily understand. ------------- ...those who have fallen and those who will. |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: February-01-2010 at 10:08am
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I kept going back to the meaning of ignorance, intelligent but unaware, these seem to go 3 to 4 pages, when i was a kid you would hear things like, someday you'll be driving down the street talking on a phone, someday TV's will be 1 inch thick and you will hang them on the wall, every home will have a computer and you will be able to talk to eachother face to face..at the time i would say i was 15 or even 16 and just thought to myself that is impossible, never, all the things we could ever need are invented already. and we use them day to day, why would we need stuff like that? that i think is what the definition of ignorance means.
ive been thru a couple recessions, this one is different, thru 18% home loans, I never thought i would see a black president, maybe ignorant. but as the end result this country was created, built to a super power, a beacon to the world because of the auto industry. we took a raw material and created a viable commodity and sold it creating wealth, strong government, 2 cars in every drive and healthcare that surpassed any in the world. personally if i was a single man no family, i wouldnt give 2 ***************s what happens, but i have kids and this is what they are going to be left with and they will see more changes than i ever seen when i was a kid ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: SN206
Date Posted: February-01-2010 at 1:31pm
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Agree, and thinking about that is unsettling. ------------- ...those who have fallen and those who will. |
Posted By: 05 210
Date Posted: February-01-2010 at 7:45pm
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GM's http://www.autospies.com/news/GM-s-Incentive-To-Toyota-Recall-Owners-Could-Backfire-Badly-51487/ - PLAN to take the market back from Toyota
My wife had some excellent customer service at the Toyota garage today. Dropped the Prius off yesterday (20 minutes away)for an appointment that they contacted us about to have an update/recall done. She called today to check the status......We don't have those parts in stock yet,gonna be a few weeks. WTF? While it's here would you like us to rotate the tires for $19.95??......ummmm, No! Mike ------------- http:/diaries/details.asp?ID=2219" rel="nofollow - Air Nautique 210 Team 640 hours, not 1 regret |
Posted By: SN206
Date Posted: February-01-2010 at 9:46pm
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Mike, for what it's worth I too got literature stating that there was a recall concerning the stuck throtle thing. I would have likely had the same experiance had I not called them and bugged the crap out of them about it. They told me to expect a pink colored notice in the mail and at that time would be when to make the appointment to have it repaired. I'm not sure if that was the issue with your car,but if it is I hope this helps and saves you some time and frustration. ------------- ...those who have fallen and those who will. |
Posted By: 05 210
Date Posted: February-01-2010 at 11:44pm
Yeah I'm not really sure why that was a fail on their part Ryan. It wasn't the notice in the mail she based the appt on, the Toyota garage actually contacted her and said she needed to bring it in. Why, if they didn't have the parts, I'll never know. I'm not sure if it was the gas pedal/floormats problem or something else as I don't meddle in her car business. That Prius has been a thorn in my side since I came home and saw it in the garage where the Mustang GT used to be parked  .
Mike ------------- http:/diaries/details.asp?ID=2219" rel="nofollow - Air Nautique 210 Team 640 hours, not 1 regret |
Posted By: SN206
Date Posted: February-02-2010 at 12:15am
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LOL, that was a sad day! ------------- ...those who have fallen and those who will. |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: February-02-2010 at 9:29am
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A guy who rents space from me bought a 2008 2500 duramax, about 2 weeks ago i noticed he wasnt driving his truck anymore, he swaps alot of cars from dealers and repairs them at my shop, long story short he traded it in for a 2010 camry, (his day to day workplace is at a GMC dealership) he got use to the 100k a year gig and the floor fell out. sn, im a kind gentle person and grew up around the UAW's and would never verbally fight or even fight about an issue like we are discussing face to face, But God damn did i ride this guy's ass all week. (jokingly) iwas saying "you what"? things to that order
Mike, I read somewhere that the Prius was being sold at a huge loss to American consumers to get thier feet wet first. ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: February-02-2010 at 9:31am
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needless to say, i put a rack and pinion in a prius, you dont even want to know the cost ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: Kristof
Date Posted: February-02-2010 at 10:18am
GM should better take care of the 10.000 employees they are gonna lay off in Europe... The GM plant in Antwerp (the most efficient in the world...) will be shut down and other plants in for instance Germany are gonna go through reorganisations. ------------- - Gun control means: using BOTH hands! - Money doesn't make one happy, but when it rains cats and dogs, it's still better to cry in a Porsche than on a bicycle... |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: February-02-2010 at 10:56am
Man, you'll be moving up here to the west end next. ------------- |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: February-02-2010 at 11:11am
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I caught the tail end of the report on the fix Toyota is doing. Looks like a wear plate someplace at a mechanical linkage. However, the report continued stating that other testing has also shown problems with the electronics so that's the "fly by wire" I referred to. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: PAPA
Date Posted: February-02-2010 at 6:53pm
| Ford and GM both outsold Toyota in todays reports.It's a beautiful thing! |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: February-02-2010 at 6:57pm
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thats the best news ive heard in a year, hopefully its contagious ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: February-03-2010 at 10:12am
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as of this morning, software problems? but cannot pinpoint problem yet ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: February-03-2010 at 5:07pm
These are mighty tough words coming from a guy with 2 junk American cars in his yard, one in the shop and a TOYOTA in his garage! ------------- |
Posted By: quinner
Date Posted: February-03-2010 at 5:43pm
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Holy Half Barrel Timmy, just wet myself laughing so hard.
Looks like HW got a little payback for his unknowingly driving across Chicago-land in his Fleetwood with "Gay N Proud" plastered on his backside!! ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1143" rel="nofollow - Mi Bowt |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: February-03-2010 at 6:02pm
Yes but didn't I hear the advertisment came off and was transfered to your Surburban at the train station?? Now both of you will literally need to check/cover your backsides. (body and auto!!) ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: February-03-2010 at 6:08pm
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You are correct Pete, which explains the foot tapping and thigh rubbing as the guy sat right next to Chris and they were the only 2 in the entire train car! ------------- |
Posted By: quinner
Date Posted: February-03-2010 at 11:34pm
Imagine the excitement had HW driven through "Boys Town" that day!
 ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1143" rel="nofollow - Mi Bowt |
Posted By: Keuka
Date Posted: February-04-2010 at 12:22am
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I have been working in a Toyota dealer setting up a computer system for the last couple weeks. This gas pedal recall finally hit today. They are installing what they are calling a "reinforcement bar". Basically it is just shim that put a little more tension on the spring. I have worked in and around car dealerships either directly or as a computer system provider for about 18 years. All the franchised have recalls but Toyota has been hit hard lately. I think there are 3 or 4 different recalls for floor mats or gas pedals. They also have the truck frame recalls. The dealer I am at now is doing one of these on a Tacoma. Start with a new frame and swap all the part off the old. These pay 60 hours to the tech. I have seen guys knock out 2 a week. Maybe this is just Toyota way to help the economy by providing employment for all the technicians to fix their cars.
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Posted By: SN206
Date Posted: February-04-2010 at 12:45am
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Talked to the closest dealer here today. He said because of the high number of vehicles to repair the shop is working 24hrs a day except for the weekends. Can you say overtime $$$$! ------------- ...those who have fallen and those who will. |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: February-04-2010 at 9:43am
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they should sublet the overflow to the GM and Ford dealerships, these boys can turn wrenches too.
Keuka, is it true that at times they will give you blue book for the Tacoma and let you walk away from it? ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: Keuka
Date Posted: February-04-2010 at 11:57pm
| They are buying some back. I'm not sure who is making the decision to buyout or fix. They trucks that don't have the rust are getting undercoated. |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: February-05-2010 at 10:29am
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now the prius with brake issues? karma, i know they pushed that half man half woman car to introduce it first here in the good ole usa and at a loss...im weeping ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: 05 210
Date Posted: February-05-2010 at 12:17pm
Easy there big shooter. I know you read my post that stated I have one of those in the driveway. I will not tolerate personal attacks against my insane wife's decision to purchase the most uncool vehicle I've ever driven( did I just admit that?) hahahaha. Consider yourself fortunate you buddies did not ask you to turn in your mancard, like mine did when they saw it. It's not even a good color....some kindof metallic light green 
Everyone I know was actually shocked when the wife bought it, she has always been a truck/suv girl.I'm trying semi successfully to talk her into getting rid of it, but can't think of anyone who'd want it. I hate that f@$#king car! Perhaps I should send it off a bridge and claim the brakes failed
Mike * edit- maybe HW wants it.He could just transfer the painters tape sign off the caddy trunk onto it. ------------- http:/diaries/details.asp?ID=2219" rel="nofollow - Air Nautique 210 Team 640 hours, not 1 regret |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: February-06-2010 at 1:19am
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Mike, its a golf cart with woman bling lol ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: February-06-2010 at 10:53am
Mike, Why did she get it? Does she really think she's being "green" and doing the environment good? If so, she didn't do her research on hybrids. It's a scam for the "tree huggers". ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |