Docks and Lifts
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Printed Date: February-21-2025 at 11:30am
Topic: Docks and Lifts
Posted By: M3Fan
Subject: Docks and Lifts
Date Posted: February-15-2010 at 11:59am
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We are now proud owners of Wisconsin Northwoods lakefront property. I have not seen our actual shoreline yet since it's under ice and snow, but sat photos and snapshots show a gradual sand shoreline/bottom that may or may not taper off very quickly after a dozen or so yards. Max lake depth is ~15 feet.
I'd like a lift with a canopy and we have no dock at this time. I know nothing about dock building/buying or lifts. Tell me everything. Everything. ------------- 2000 SN GT40 w/99 Graphics/Gel 2016 SN 200 OB 5.3L DI https://forum.fifteenoff.com |
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Posted By: emccallum
Date Posted: February-15-2010 at 12:13pm
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Congrats on the new lake property! What kind of docks are allowed? What regs do you have? Does the water level vary a lot?
Where I am we can only have floating docks. I have a two bay covered dock with a sun deck on top. One bay has an ACE cradle lift for the SN. The other is open. The sky is the limit, unless the local gvt has their own limit! |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: February-15-2010 at 12:42pm
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Joel,
I suggest a cedar pier. The very best is Randy's in 3L's. He buys Canadian White RS by the semi load and mills it all himself. Decking is even screwed down! True craftmanship and really not that expensive compared to a purchased metal pier even with a 20 to 25 year life expectancy. BTW, just to give you a idea of Randy's workmanship, he builds cedar strip canoes and rowing shells in the winter!! Current regs I believe are 4' max width and 150 sq. ft. max at the end "T" or "L". Max. length is determined by water depth. As long as needed till you have 36" of water. The DNR never checks out the piers UNLESS, someone builds a "deck size" pier out over the water!!!!!! Then they are nailed to the cross!!! Lifts? Start calling the marinas in the area and as mentioned, start getting the Vilas County News and look in the classifieds. The only problem if you find one out of the paper will be transportation. You'll need to rent a trailer. A pontoon trailer works great. Unbolt the front or rear lift cross member and slip the trailer under the cradle. Crank up and bolt the crossmember back on for transport. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: harddock
Date Posted: February-15-2010 at 12:44pm
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Look at Floe for a lift. All the major brands are good but Floe had some features I really like. S.S hardware, 24v screwjack lift system. (quick, quiet) screwjack adjustable legs (easily leveling). Nice canopy.
As for docks, I like aluminum. Lightweight and stable.(especially if configired in a L or T, some have deck choices. (Shoremaster). Try to get s.s. fasteners. I am not a fan of floaters, and actually get hotter than a legged dock. ven those plastic floaters get real hot. The leg in the water acts like a spoon in a coffee cup helping to cool the deck. You can carpet an aluminum deck. If you are going to horseshoe the dock around a lift make sure the docks are long enough going across the lift. (some docks come 10'and some lifts are wider) and get a lift with more capacity then you need as your next boat might be bigger.  The lift is on 5 seasons and those aluminum docks are going on 21 years and still like new. The little solar panel charges both batteries and one charge per seaon works for mine.
If you need to take your boat out of the water for a bad storm, take the canopy fabric off as well. In a strong wind a caonpied lift without a boat on it will move and even flip. Also notice my bimini is up while on the lift with good clearance, howeber the fly high has to be removed but my canopy is at its lowest position, Get at least 24' canopy for a 20' boat. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=4487" rel="nofollow - 1998 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: WakeSlayer
Date Posted: February-15-2010 at 12:52pm
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I like ShoreStation lifts. I built my own dock 12 years ago. I have 14 sections. 10' x 3'. I go out 80 feet, over 20 to a 10x9 platform, and I have a slip for the SuperAir lift. I get my brackets from ACME Foundry in Mpls. I have a dealer account and get about 70% off. Three 2x6 stringers, and 5/4 deck planking for the top. All said my cost was $110 per section at the time.
It is a pain in the ass for three hours in the spring, and one hour in the fall. The rest of the time it is great!! ------------- Mike N 1968 Mustang |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: February-15-2010 at 2:12pm
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Joel,
I get the print version of the news paper so I don't normally go to the http://www.vilascountynewsreview.com/ - on line version . They do have the classifieds there too. I however didn't see any adds for lifts. Maybe it's too early in the season? Homemade piers have a tendency to be heavy as Mike referred too because typically you use treated and the cast corners for pipe legs. It's a strong pier but be prepared for needing several strong people for install/removal!! I let Randy install/remove the pier he built for me and he does it himself!!! My other pier on the lake accross the road is a second hand non Randy's cedar pier that my wife and I handle ourselves. 4' x 8' sections. BTW, the decking on it is nailed and every spring I need to drive the nails back in!! Of course you can always leave them and see if one of the girls gets her swim suit bottom hooked doing a sitting dock start!!!! Purchased piers with aluminum or plastic/composite decking will be hot as mentioned. They are however very light but most with their removable deck sections do take more time to install/remove. Permanent is the other way to go but now you're talking DNR permits and bigger money for the pile driver. Pilings can be jetted in by hand but they don't last with the winter ice unless you're in a relatively sheltered cove or bay. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: quinner
Date Posted: February-15-2010 at 2:28pm
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Joel,
Congrats on the new place!! The Floe Lifts are really nice as Kevin mentioned, they have a unit with plastic tires on the lower member and retractable feet that raise so you can roll the lift in and out, awesome feature that does come with a hefty price tag last time I checked. Shorestation makes a great unit, all aluminum, easy to crank, big feet, easy to find parts, usually in the mid price range. If you want to see either brand up close my lift/canopy is a Shorestation and my neighbor has a Floe. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1143" rel="nofollow - Mi Bowt |
Posted By: harddock
Date Posted: February-15-2010 at 2:35pm
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Joel, you also didn't mention access to your waterfront. If you have to remove these items for winter and can do it right up your beach, great but if you need to traverse a seawall or need to float stuff over to an area to remove and transport back to your property for the winter, well that has to be taken into consideration.
I have a boat ramp right on my property and I have a between the tubes crankup pontoon trailer. I am able to get the trailer under my boatlift and easily pull it out. Then I raise the legs on my dock sections and float them up onto the trailer and haul them over to where they sit for winter. The whole process is time consuming but Myself and 8 year old Blake get it done in a couple hours. (no heavy lifting) ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=4487" rel="nofollow - 1998 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: February-15-2010 at 2:47pm
Kevin,
Joel has lake front footage and no seawall. They aren't permitted by the DNR. They are strict on this one. Maybe some old railroad ties that the PO through down before the days of tight control. Spingtime will tell. Rocking a shoreline needs a permit and then even the rock size and placement is checked!! I happen to agree with the DNR on this one. Nothing spoils the natural shoreline like a steel, concrete or whatever seawall!! Ballasted wake boats and the shoreline damage they cause will be banned before the DNR would allow seawalls!! ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
M3Fan wrote:Posted By: M3Fan
Date Posted: February-15-2010 at 2:51pm
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I like the idea of a non-heavy dock. The 2x6 treated docks at the ski club are total backbreakers to put in and remove every season. The cedar docks seem to be worth a look, for sure. Are the legs/supports cedar as well? ------------- 2000 SN GT40 w/99 Graphics/Gel 2016 SN 200 OB 5.3L DI https://forum.fifteenoff.com |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: February-15-2010 at 2:58pm
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Joel, Yes the legs are Cedar too. I'm on year 14 with my cedar and it's showing no signs of problems.
Did the agent tell you what kind of bottom you have? If on the mucky (Loon sh*t) side, then larger pads on the leg bottoms are used. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: February-15-2010 at 2:59pm
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Joel, congrats on the waterfront purchase!
Cedar and aluminum sure do make for beautiful docks, but boy are they expensive! How you want to proceed will highly depend on your budget. We've built our own docks out of wood for a long time- its relatively cheap and easy to do, plus theyre light enough for 2 people to put in and take out. Theyre basically 8-10' sections framed with 2x6's and covered with 5/4 decking material. The supports are 4x4 posts framed together with 2x4's. Im sure you have a lot of options in WI for prebuilt stuff if you want to go that way (and maybe its not as pricey as it is here) but let me know if you want more info on how we've done ours. For lifts, we've migrated towards 12V hydraulic lifts. Very fast raise/lower compared to electric- I actually prefer a manual lift over the 110vac my dad had for a while. We have Nyman/Basta but see what's readily available in your area for used. WI seems to be the boat lift capital of the world so you should have a lot of options! Sunstream builds a very nice product but $$$.  ------------- |
Posted By: storm34
Date Posted: February-15-2010 at 3:21pm
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I'm with Tim on building your own. We bought the floats from Menards, in the end I probably would have shopped around for something better. We basically built three floating sections (two fingers and an end) with a ramp to the shore and can unbolt them and pull them out with the boat and a trailer in the winter.
Much cheaper than the 10k we were quoted by L&N docks here in IA. ------------- |
Posted By: M3Fan
Date Posted: February-15-2010 at 3:22pm
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Cheap would be good. Plus, we're handy, so I'll take all the dock building details I can get. I'll shop around as well, but I like what I see with your homebrewed solution there Tim. I'm warming up to that red/khaki color combo, btw. ------------- 2000 SN GT40 w/99 Graphics/Gel 2016 SN 200 OB 5.3L DI https://forum.fifteenoff.com |
Posted By: storm34
Date Posted: February-15-2010 at 3:23pm
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As far as a lift....we've had a Floe for 10 years now and can't complain. Everyone else on the lake has a shore station and I'm not satisfied with their canopies. Seems to be very little protection compared to our FLOE. ------------- |
Posted By: 92ccc
Date Posted: February-15-2010 at 3:38pm
| If your shorline is steeper you can use a deicer($550.00) and leave all your docks and lifts in place for the winter,they are inexpensive to run on a timer.Ihave left all three boat lifts in and docks all winter for six years now with no problems.My place is on the Eagle River chain in Eagle river. |
Posted By: harddock
Date Posted: February-15-2010 at 3:55pm
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The wooden docks can be built with removable decking which lightens up the load for install/rmovale. I had some with cedar fence posts mounted outboard of the frame with firing strips as a bumper which worked well. nut even with the decking removed were a four man operation. They were 4x16, 4x10 wold lighten them up.
Craigslist may have some used lifts and they usually fit on snowmopbile trailers to transport. You also need to consider if you have room for a cantaliver or straight vertical lift. Canatlievers will pull the boat foward about 3 feet. Do our homework, weigh all the pros and cons and you should be pleased with the end results. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=4487" rel="nofollow - 1998 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: 92ccc
Date Posted: February-15-2010 at 4:00pm
| I had problems with my cantilever lift for my 92SN,it was very fussy on water depth placement,when placed too shallow could not get on the lift,when placed deep enough the boat just barely comes out of the water,the newer lifts have cross members that are bent in the middle to accomodate inboards with tracking fins. |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: February-15-2010 at 4:14pm
Tony, How many "ice outs" have you seen? 6 years? The ice around the shore line will typically go first and then the large ice left in the middle of the lake is known to blow back and forth depending on the wind direction. It took out brand new cribs on my boat house one year. The whole thing ended up sitting on the lake bottom. Thankfully my boats weren't in it for storage that year because of the crib work being done. Do you really want to take that chance? I feel you have been lucky unless you're on one of the channels between the lakes. Aeration is typical for permanent piers/boat houses and then in late winter it's turned off so the ice will reform offering some protection from that big ice "floe" from blowing back in. My shoreline is steep. 18 steps directly from the pier to the top of the hill. Pier sections are stacked on a rack built on the slope and the lift is winched into the trees. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: emccallum
Date Posted: February-15-2010 at 4:18pm
| I never realized you guys have to remove your docks in the winter! Wow, I thought pressure washing mine in the spring was a pain! I have built several docks over the years, and I find screws are the only way to go. If you predrill the holes prior to screwing, it will keep the wood from cracking for a lot longer. Especially with the decking boards. Also, the new composite boards tend to get hotter (might be a good thing for you guys up North) and I have seen them warp when used as railing, if they arent well supported. |
Posted By: 92ccc
Date Posted: February-15-2010 at 5:00pm
| I am on the Eagle River up past Eagle River Marine(Heckels)I have seen the ice do damage on the lakes,from what I ahve seen it is the ice at the shore that heaves and damages docks and lifts,I have never seen the ice from the middle blow to shore and damage stuff,interesting!I have had a lake houise longer than six years,only the last six with boat lifts.My other place was on a lake not a channel,my dad has experienced this problem on the same lake when he left his dock in one year,but it was the ice that left the shore that caused the damage. |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: February-15-2010 at 5:42pm
Tony, Now I remember where you are. Sorry but I know we even talked about it before!! You are pretty well protected in that area but I would still pull docks and lifts but that's just me. I've just seen to much damage over the years - even "permanent" piers/boat houses. Permanent pilings suffer from frost heave and it's the reason for the aeration. The shallower the piling the worse the heave because of the frost depth. When you aereate, you are preventing the bottom of the lake from freezing by keeping the warmer unfrozen water around the pilings. Charlie's (Brady) boat house that just went though a re piling last winter was constantly heaving towards the shore. It's a good example when areation isn't used. Besides moving the whole boat house back several feet through the years, the rear pilings needed to be cut every several years. some of those pilings where only 6' long down from the original 20'!!! BTW, the boat house is now aerated! You do put up warning barriers around the open water don't you? There is a law about it. That's a PITA alone! ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: storm34
Date Posted: February-15-2010 at 6:37pm
Just remember to take them out a couple weeks BEFORE you plan to take them out. We got stuck on a business trip this fall so the toon is staying out on the lift this winter!! I've seen it done before and we're at the end of a cove so we don't see any ice shifting but not the ideal place to keep a boat all winter!!
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Posted By: storm34
Date Posted: February-15-2010 at 6:38pm
This was me trying to break my way to the end of the cove....I made it about 20 ft  ------------- |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: February-15-2010 at 6:45pm
Chris, Don't worry if it happens again. We'll get Mike down there to free it up!
------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: storm34
Date Posted: February-15-2010 at 7:01pm
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Haha...don't let him get any ideas...remember this guy?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91h09nG88xA - ice breaker! ------------- |
Posted By: Brady
Date Posted: February-15-2010 at 9:04pm
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Joel
Where did you buy? ------------- Charlie Three Lakes, Wisconsin 69 Barracuda |
Posted By: M3Fan
Date Posted: February-15-2010 at 9:30pm
Eagle River ------------- 2000 SN GT40 w/99 Graphics/Gel 2016 SN 200 OB 5.3L DI https://forum.fifteenoff.com |
Posted By: RainDog
Date Posted: February-16-2010 at 1:20am
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I don't know if this would apply, Joel, but the best tip I received last year was to buy a gas engine driven pump to jet the pilings into the ground. Pete suggested it. I found a 3" trash pump on CraigsList for $40 with intake hose! Ran great after rebuilding the carb. Your welcome to borrow it when I'm done with it this spring if you want to swing by GL on the way to ER.
I put a 10' piece of rigid conduit with a nozzle created by smashing one end of the pipe. Anyhow, I was sinking premade pilings and crossmembers into the earth about 6' without too much of a sweat. It worked great. I then set the decking sections between the pilings and on the crossmembers. I used 4x4 for pilings, 2x6's for crossmembers and framing for the decking and 5/4 for the deck. All pressure treated pine. Galvanized hardware lag screws and carriage bolts and SS deck screws for the decking. This is for a permanent pier in our mooring channel at Green Lake. I also had good luck with finding my used aluminum ShoreStation on CraigsList. Found NOS canopy vinyl for $350 to boot and side guide on bunks for $100 separately. I was at least 1/2 price from new and the lift is only 5 years old. Congrats on the lake house. My folks had a place on a channel between Catfish and Cranberry lakes for a few years. Fantastic boating. I hope you get up there frequently. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1868&sort=&pagenum=1 - 62 Classic http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5242&sort=&pagenum=1 - 2002 Super Air |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: February-16-2010 at 8:25am
Charlie, It's not on the chain and of course I forgot what lake Joel bought on. Bass lake?? Joel?? Joel, I know I asked my son if he had ever delivered a boat to the lake and he hadn't. BTW, you're better off not being on the Eagle side of the chain!!! There are times when it's like boating the Fox chain!! ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: February-16-2010 at 10:14am
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Joel?
http://www.mapquest.com/maps?city=Eagle+River&state=WI&country=US&latitude=45.917198&longitude=-89.244202&geocode=CITY - bass lake Hwy. 70 east? ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: M3Fan
Date Posted: February-16-2010 at 1:21pm
Steve, we looked at a house there too, near the bridge there (I think). I like that pump idea. I have to survey the shore once things thaw out to see what we're workin' with. This has become a dream come true for our family. We've been going up north my entire life, renting or staying at friends' houses. ------------- 2000 SN GT40 w/99 Graphics/Gel 2016 SN 200 OB 5.3L DI https://forum.fifteenoff.com |
Posted By: mdvalant
Date Posted: February-16-2010 at 2:24pm
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Did anyone say anything about fiber-steel? Worked on these all summer last year. AMAZING way to do it...if you can spend the money one of them is well worth it....
http://www.lakeboatlifts.com/ |
Posted By: M3Fan
Date Posted: April-14-2010 at 12:15pm
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Quick update on this- I'm going with a hybrid approach- home-built wooden pier sections with specialized store-bought hardware to link them together and support them. Each section will "hook in" to the adjacent section and have 2 adjustable legs with set-screw pads/feet. Should be extremely simple to set up and take down. All of the hardware for 3 lengthwise and 2 sideways (like a big "L") sections comes out to around 500.00 not including the Sch40 galvanized pipe which I still have to buy for the legs. Hoping to knock the deck building out next week before we head up there. ------------- 2000 SN GT40 w/99 Graphics/Gel 2016 SN 200 OB 5.3L DI https://forum.fifteenoff.com |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: April-14-2010 at 12:50pm
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Joel,
Take your waders or at least hip boots with you! The water's still on the cool side.  ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: M3Fan
Date Posted: April-14-2010 at 1:14pm
I put the docks in at the club here in IL and froze my ass off! I can't imagine how cold the water is up there. ------------- 2000 SN GT40 w/99 Graphics/Gel 2016 SN 200 OB 5.3L DI https://forum.fifteenoff.com |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: April-14-2010 at 1:28pm
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Joel,
Have you or did you determine what the lake bottom is like where the pier is going in. If "loon sh**", plan on some pretty long pieces of pipe for the legs!! ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: M3Fan
Date Posted: April-14-2010 at 1:51pm
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It should, by all accounts, be sandy. Should. ------------- 2000 SN GT40 w/99 Graphics/Gel 2016 SN 200 OB 5.3L DI https://forum.fifteenoff.com |
Posted By: MI-nick
Date Posted: April-14-2010 at 3:18pm
I have a hybrid dock too. Store bought alumiminum supports/bkts, treated 2X 6 stringers (2 - 12', 6-10' sections), and removable 5/4 cedar decking (2 - 6' X 3' sections, 4 - 5' X 4' sections). I can easily install and remove the whole thing by myself. For lifts, I have a Hewitt cantilever that I really like. They are cheap and simple and easy to disassemble...I mostly disassemle every year to take out over my seawall...also solo.
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Posted By: M3Fan
Date Posted: April-26-2010 at 11:49am
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Fabricated and installed the dock over the weekend. Not the whole thing- just the 40' run straight out. I have an 8' kicker that I was going to run parallel to the last section to make a platform area at the end of the dock. However, I think I might sneak another 10' section in to get a little more depth first. At 40', I have about 3' exactly of water at the end of the dock. Is that enough for a lift? I can get another 1 foot of depth if I go out to 50'
I got the dock hardware from DH Docks ( http://www.dhdocks.com/lakesideliving/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=9_60%20 - Link ). The dock hardware was amazing. Even came with all the carriage bolts, washers, and nuts for each bracket. This was the first time I saw our shoreline without ice- it was AWESOME! All sand bottom! Can't wait to get the boat up here. 
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Posted By: ultrarunner
Date Posted: April-26-2010 at 12:01pm
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Hi M3, if you have a constant 3 feet of water all year, you don't need anymore than that. And 3 feet is plenty of water for a cantilever lift, and even enough for a vertical.
I'm in 3 feet right now and I have my Sport Nautique on a vertical shore station lift. No problems at all. You do need to make sure when you put the lift in the water that the extension legs are fully retracted. |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: April-26-2010 at 12:55pm
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Lookin good Joel! Keep in mind that the water is low up north this year but it also looks like you've left youself plenty of adjustment on the legs. Any luck on a lift yet? ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: M3Fan
Date Posted: April-26-2010 at 1:03pm
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I have a lead on a 6yr-old covered lift on the same lake. The owners paid 6K new. I sent them an offer, still waiting on a reply. ------------- 2000 SN GT40 w/99 Graphics/Gel 2016 SN 200 OB 5.3L DI https://forum.fifteenoff.com |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: April-26-2010 at 1:54pm
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Good luck on the lift. That sure would be handy in that you wouldn't need to deal with transporting it very far. Sitting on the top of a aluminum fishing boat works great.
You'll be very glad you found the place on Bass lake and not on the Eagle chain. It gets pretty bad over there. Not as bad as the Fox chain but at times close!!! ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: M3Fan
Date Posted: May-20-2010 at 11:40am
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Guys, what can I expect to pay for a used lift with a canopy? Most of the ones I've seen are in the 4K range. I thought I had a pretty solid budget at 2.5K. For 4K, I could get a very nice trailer or do very nice things to my house. I can't imagine spending that kind of bread on a boat lift. Am I completely in fantasy land at 2.5K? ------------- 2000 SN GT40 w/99 Graphics/Gel 2016 SN 200 OB 5.3L DI https://forum.fifteenoff.com |
Posted By: ultrarunner
Date Posted: May-20-2010 at 11:45am
| You're going to pay every bit of that and more if you're buying new M3Fan. Good lifts, such as RGC, are expensive, and so is the canopy. |
Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: May-20-2010 at 12:00pm
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Personally, I think the price of boat lifts has gotten out of control. ------------- |
Posted By: M3Fan
Date Posted: May-20-2010 at 12:03pm
Used. Used for sure. At 4K I could by an entire beater Ski Nautique and float it all year. ------------- 2000 SN GT40 w/99 Graphics/Gel 2016 SN 200 OB 5.3L DI https://forum.fifteenoff.com |
Posted By: quinner
Date Posted: May-20-2010 at 1:38pm
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Several years ago Sold my older style Shorestation w/o canopy to my neighbor for $1k, few years ago Booby picked up his setup for $2.5k, SS w/canopy & motor. What are they getting for a brand new SS un-assembled unit these days? The canopy's are expensive, replacement vinyl alone is close to $1k.
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Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: May-20-2010 at 2:11pm
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Joel,
On your way north, stop at Sportsmans just south of Three Lakes. They are a Hewitt dealer. See what they have to say. Also, they may have a used lift. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: behindpropeller
Date Posted: May-20-2010 at 2:23pm
+1 There are 4 of the lakeside lifts on my dock now. Excellent workmanship. $2500 for a new lift. Tim ------------- |
Posted By: ultrarunner
Date Posted: May-20-2010 at 2:30pm
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Quinner, a brand new RGC 3500 lb unit, with canopy, will run better than 6500 bucks.
Shorestation and Craftlander can be bought for about half that. I hadn't heard of Lakeside lift before. But I'm in the market for a new lift as well. I'll give them a call. Thanks for that tip Tim. |
Posted By: M3Fan
Date Posted: May-20-2010 at 2:31pm
Will do. ------------- 2000 SN GT40 w/99 Graphics/Gel 2016 SN 200 OB 5.3L DI https://forum.fifteenoff.com |
Posted By: sethro
Date Posted: May-20-2010 at 9:58pm
Around here (NW IL) you are not in fantasy land at 2.5k, as that would get you a very nice lift. I paid $1000 for my 3000lb Hewitt cantilever lift with canopy many years ago, and I found a 3600lb vertical Shorestation lift with canopy and electric winch for $1100 which my dad bought for his boat. In addition, I found a 1500lb ShoreMaster for my dad's flat bottom boat last year for $400. My suggestion is to "patrol" the areas where you ski/boat and look for lifts that aren't in the water. Track the owner down and see if he/she wants to sell it. That's how I found mine and the the flat bottom lift for my dad. I'm currently awaiting an answer on a 4000lb vertical lift (ShoreMaster) that hasn't been in the water for the last two years. I believe the owner is going to want to sell it, but he hasn't made a final choice yet. I'll let you know if he wants to sell as I don't need another lift. 
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Posted By: PLBC
Date Posted: May-22-2010 at 12:02pm
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agreed. you should be able to score a hot setup for 2.5k ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5164&sort=&pagenum=1" rel="nofollow - 99 |
Posted By: LaurelLakeSkier
Date Posted: May-22-2010 at 12:46pm
| If you haven't found anything yet, another spot to check is http://www.waterworkssp.com/ - Waterworks Specialists . I didn't see anything used that fits your needs on the site right now but if you let them know what you are looking for, they are good about keeping you posted when something turns up. One of my lifts came from them and and several friends have also had great service from them. http://www.watercraftsales.com/default.asp - Watercraft Sales in Three Lakes also has used lifts available and would be worth checking with as well. |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: May-22-2010 at 4:30pm
Mark, You must have missed it or maybe it was before you were a active CCfan'r but Joel and Kurt at Watercraft aren't the greatest of buddies!! Seems there's a slight personality conflict. I can't remember the exact expletive Joel used in describing him but I thought it was rather funny myself! Besides, if Joel got a lift from Kurt, he's probably want to sell him a commemorative CC spray painted gold shovel and a cheap "bump" hat with a "N" (for Nautique) decal on it!!!  (You may have missed that episode too!!) ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: May-22-2010 at 6:07pm
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Mark,
Here's the http://www.correctcraftfan.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10450&KW=darcy&title=for-sale-hard-hat-shovel - hard hat and shovel for sale thread. Ryan posted it (and got tons of heat for it ) but it's felt Kurt had something to do with it!!!------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: M3Fan
Date Posted: June-01-2010 at 12:46pm
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OK guys, case closed. The boat is now sitting several feet above the water under a beautiful matching Khaki canopy on a 4000# mint Shore Station with electric motor. The moving of the lift from one side of the lake to the other was one of the most ridiculous processes I've ever seen, and also the best 150 I've ever spent to have somebody else move it. The boat sitting on a lift at the end of my dock is something I've waited many, many years to see. Now I just have to get used to my most prized material possession being so far away.
I brought my trailer home so that I could mitigate some of the insane rust issues on it. The unloaded Ram-Lin is about the bounciest thing ever when rolling on concrete paving, with it's subtle undulations. Every time I hit paved asphalt on the way home it was a complete relief! ------------- 2000 SN GT40 w/99 Graphics/Gel 2016 SN 200 OB 5.3L DI https://forum.fifteenoff.com |
Posted By: storm34
Date Posted: June-01-2010 at 12:50pm
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Congrats Joel! Be sure to buy some rubber snakes or some type of scare tactic for those pesky birds who try and make your new lift their home! ------------- |
Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: June-01-2010 at 12:55pm
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Did you air down the tires? ------------- |
Posted By: M3Fan
Date Posted: June-01-2010 at 1:20pm
Good idea, and no. ------------- 2000 SN GT40 w/99 Graphics/Gel 2016 SN 200 OB 5.3L DI https://forum.fifteenoff.com |
Posted By: horkn
Date Posted: June-01-2010 at 1:25pm
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Glad to see you got your land, your pier, and now your lift all set!
My ex fiances parent's have a place on Catfish lake just beyond where the flow of traffic goes to the channel to cranberry. I spent many summers up there in a boat and on the jet skiis. I never thought it was that bad, certainly nothing like a saturday or sunday down here in SE WI on Big Cedar lake. That is insane. So crazy I won't even go wakeboarding until all the people go in for lunch or dinner. Bass lake is nice and quiet though. I'm looking forward to getting a lift at some point for my CC on Lake Mohawksin in Tomahawk. But yeah, prices for lifts have gotten really crazy in recent years, maybe making up for lack of sales quantity with price jacking. As far as the shovel and hat thing, I saw the post a while back, but not all the rest of the responses. I've seen a few of these shovels and hats around at CC dealers. I don't think most were actually used for ground breaking. These were more of a promotional item sent by CC to dealers. Ppayleitner ( the guy saying he has the same shovel for 1000) might be able to chime in as his CC dealer is where I got my martinique from and had been a CC dealer for a long time. ------------- 78 martinique- refloored, reinforced, stringers re glassed, re engineered interior GT40P heads Edelbrock Performer intake acme 4 blade http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v64/horkn/fish/nautique.jpg |
Posted By: dmiracle
Date Posted: June-16-2010 at 5:45pm
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I have an Ozark boat lift.
Somewhat unique in that the front is attached to the dock and the rear sinks down in the water when the air is released. It's essentially like a trailer attached to the dock. Love it. http://www.lakelandindustries.net/lifts.html ------------- Doug |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: November-23-2012 at 1:04pm
Thinking of adding another dock,, I have old school heavy ,wood boys now taking the load,, work fine.. Would like to add another dock.. Thinking aluminum framing and , we build out the decking.. Best place to buy this stuff? Anyone........ty Linda
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: November-23-2012 at 1:05pm
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Posted By: scottb7
Date Posted: November-23-2012 at 4:57pm
| ok, you are smiling and happy so that is cool. but why don't you have a paint pan and a roller and just be done? Slop it on nice and thick on a hot day... |
Posted By: john b
Date Posted: November-23-2012 at 5:22pm
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I like my aluminum Shore Station dock. I would look at one and their competitors before committing to building one. I have had mine about 7 years and it looks like new. It is easy to adjust the height to level it periodically as the legs shift slightly on the sand. ------------- 1970 Mustang "Theseus' paradox" If everyone else is doing it, you're too late! |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: November-23-2012 at 5:41pm
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: November-23-2012 at 5:43pm
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Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: November-23-2012 at 9:18pm
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Linda, A lot depends on the area you live in and what's available. Pre made sectionals are nice but can be pricey. Where I am at in northern Wisconsin, the preferred is a locally made white Cedar sectional pier. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: November-23-2012 at 10:25pm
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Posted By: john b
Date Posted: November-23-2012 at 10:40pm
The fact that a bum like me owns one indicates that they are not that expensive. ------------- 1970 Mustang "Theseus' paradox" If everyone else is doing it, you're too late! |
Posted By: ultrarunner
Date Posted: November-23-2012 at 10:48pm
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I decked my permanent dock in IPE. Weather proof, sun proof, warp proof, never mildew, root proof. And man, does it look good. I decked it in 2 x 6 planks, which was likely a bit much. 5/4 board would have been more than adequate. Should last to the next ice-age. Ultra |
Posted By: 79TiqueRebuild
Date Posted: November-24-2012 at 2:02am
Swimming my lift over to install in my dock. Monty
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