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Topic: Air Chair / Hydrofoil
Posted By: Netdewt
Subject: Air Chair / Hydrofoil
Date Posted: February-22-2010 at 12:55pm
Have you guys tried these things? They're really expensive, are they worth it?



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Posted By: behindpropeller
Date Posted: February-22-2010 at 3:01pm
I replaced wakeboarding with my sky ski. Much easier on your body.

Tim

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Posted By: quinner
Date Posted: February-22-2010 at 3:12pm
The Sky Ski is better then the Air Chair IMHO, have ridden both and the Ski is not as "reactive" when you don't want it to be.

They are not as affected by choppy water so it is something you can do when the water is bad. Landing aerial tricks is very smooth as long as you land upright, LOL. Deep clean water is also important, they draft quite a bit and do not run through weeds very well.

Never ridden one with a shock tower, don't think it would really be necessary unless you were getting some very big air.

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http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1143" rel="nofollow - Mi Bowt


Posted By: kapla
Date Posted: February-22-2010 at 3:58pm
nice faceplants while u r learing..LOL only tried once though..not easy to find one of those down here..

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<a href="">1992 ski nautique


Posted By: kapla
Date Posted: February-22-2010 at 4:12pm
say. what´s the difference between air chair and sky ski?

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<a href="">1992 ski nautique


Posted By: behindpropeller
Date Posted: February-22-2010 at 4:35pm
Originally posted by kapla kapla wrote:

say. what´s the difference between air chair and sky ski?


It is the design. The Sky Ski is a bit more refined. I have not rode the newer airchairs.

I started with an original air chair, bought a stock cast foild sky ski, moved to a sky ski with a shock tower, and now have a Sky Ski LEX.

Anybody that wants to come over and learn (Chippewa Lake, Oh) is always welcome to come over.


Tim

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Posted By: tullfooter
Date Posted: February-22-2010 at 4:42pm
I've got an Air Chair.   I'm not very good at it, but it's a lot of fun.
This Sky Ski has been on Metro Detroit Craigslist for a few weeks.

http://detroit.craigslist.org/wyn/boa/1599762082.html - Sky Ski $1000

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Play hard, life's not a trial run.
'85 BFN
'90 BFN



White Lake, Michigan



Posted By: TX Foilhead
Date Posted: February-23-2010 at 12:26am
Absolutely worth it, you might even give up riding everything else.   

Don't bother with the Air Chairs, you'll either be upgrading it soon or giving up. Sky Ski is the way to go, spend as much as you can afford, the high end foils are no more difficult to ride than the lower end stuff and you'll do less upgrading in the long run. The ski for sale in Detroit is on the expensive side, and you would do better with a newer billet foil, they are an improvement in both ride and strength.   Shock towers are only needed for those with bad backs, the newer EVO Towers seem to have enough give for most and are much lighter and less expensive.

For more info head over to FoilForum.com, there are a few hundred of us dedicated foilers, and we have a group similar to the one over here. We are spread out all over the country and chances are there is someone not to far from you who doesn't need much arm twisting to go foiling.


Posted By: Netdewt
Date Posted: February-23-2010 at 12:39pm
I'd definitely have to try it before I considered buying one. $1700+ is a lot, but I've tried wakeboarding and found it very uncomfortable.

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1989 Ski Nautique 2001, 880 hours


Posted By: 75 Tique
Date Posted: February-23-2010 at 7:39pm

If you're looking for someting other than boarding or skiing, go this route. Lot less than $1,700. Plus it's wicked cool and tons of fun.

(not me...stock photo)

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“So, how was your weekend?”
“Well, let me see…sun burn, stiff neck, screwed up back, assorted aches and pains….yup, my weekend was great, thanks for asking.”


Posted By: TX Foilhead
Date Posted: February-23-2010 at 9:09pm
By the time you you figure in the cost of the boom, the engine upgrades if you don't happen to have a BBC in your boat, and the extra fuel your going to use this summer, I'm going to stick with an entry level foil being less. Of course once you get the bug then money is no object.

When I started I thought I would never see one of the outrageously priced LE foils. Who would pay that for something that you use so little? , Now I have 2 of them and I'm slowly building another for my son. One of these days I hope to get a boat that costs more than what's hanging on the tower.


Posted By: Netdewt
Date Posted: February-24-2010 at 12:57am
This is incredible.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HoGqdZNdb_o - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HoGqdZNdb_o

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1989 Ski Nautique 2001, 880 hours


Posted By: dwcar
Date Posted: February-24-2010 at 12:58am
Don,

Are you coming to the TEXAS reunion?

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83Ski


Posted By: TX Foilhead
Date Posted: February-24-2010 at 1:54am
I'm thinking about it, we're doing a Mini Flyin @ Lake Murray OK the middle of May, and then we usually have another foil get together the end of June in North TX.   I'll have to see what the Travel Budget looks like after Uncle Barry gets done with me in April, but I'm thinking about it.


Posted By: TX Foilhead
Date Posted: February-24-2010 at 2:28am
Here's some better videos for you, more up to date.

Some friends who live down the road in Austin. %20 - http://www.youtube.com/user/foilfreaks#p/a/u/0/Skwt7xqH9po

This one is of Clint, the last guy in the other video, not as exciting, but it should inspire you to keep at it no mater what your working on. %20 - http://vimeo.com/6500914

By the way, there are only 3 people that I know of that can do this trick that aren't in this video.


Posted By: Netdewt
Date Posted: February-24-2010 at 2:35am
Fixed your links:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Skwt7xqH9po - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Skwt7xqH9po
http://vimeo.com/6500914 - http://vimeo.com/6500914

The landings are pretty incredible on these things. I think the fact that you're sitting makes them seem really easy.

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1989 Ski Nautique 2001, 880 hours


Posted By: TX Foilhead
Date Posted: February-24-2010 at 3:32am
Opps, should have checked those myself.



Posted By: 75 Tique
Date Posted: February-24-2010 at 2:47pm
Originally posted by TX Foilhead TX Foilhead wrote:

... the engine upgrades if you don't happen to have a BBC in your boat...


Brad's stock 86 2001 with 240 HP 351


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“So, how was your weekend?”
“Well, let me see…sun burn, stiff neck, screwed up back, assorted aches and pains….yup, my weekend was great, thanks for asking.”


Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: February-24-2010 at 2:53pm
Brad's 86 pulls hard no doubt.

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Posted By: behindpropeller
Date Posted: February-24-2010 at 3:02pm
Originally posted by Hollywood Hollywood wrote:

Brad's 86 pulls hard no doubt.


Yeah.... we did 4 behind our '86 last summer. Deeped up.....

Barefooting and hydrofoiling go hand in hand though.

Tim

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Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: February-24-2010 at 3:05pm
What prop was that, Acme 542? Did you ever sell your '86? If so, where'd it go?

We did 3 flyers w/ the Federal on with our '88. I highly doubt it would have pulled them out of a deep though.

I've ridden the Air Chair and a SkySki and could tell the difference, didn't really like either one though! We demoed a hydrofoil one summer. It was first for all of us, and we pretty much ended up on our heads after a few seconds. I may have posted the video of this before, I'll get it uploaded to my photobucket so it'll be in this thread.

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Posted By: behindpropeller
Date Posted: February-24-2010 at 3:14pm
Originally posted by Hollywood Hollywood wrote:

What prop was that, Acme 542? Did you ever sell your '86? If so, where'd it go?

We did 3 flyers w/ the Federal on with our '88. I highly doubt it would have pulled them out of a deep though.

I've ridden the Air Chair and a SkySki and could tell the difference, didn't really like either one though! We pretty much all ended up on our heads after a few seconds with the Air Chair.


542

'86 is sitting in storage right now. Going to be tough to let it go this spring.

When you come out to Kent plan on stopping over for some Sky Ski lessons....

Tim

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Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: February-24-2010 at 3:23pm
Originally posted by Hollywood Hollywood wrote:

Brad's 86 pulls hard no doubt.

Yes it does- that video was taken with the stock 240hp motor and stock 13x13 Federal prop! It should pull even harder now with the 540. I keep trying to talk him into a top end upgrade for a few more mph for 1-foot stuff... he hasnt caved yet, but I think Im getting closer.

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Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: February-24-2010 at 3:33pm
Now these things are fun!


And this looks like a nightmare.


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Posted By: 75 Tique
Date Posted: February-24-2010 at 4:01pm
Originally posted by TX Foilhead TX Foilhead wrote:

By the time you you figure in the cost of the boom, the engine upgrades if you don't happen to have a BBC in your boat, and the extra fuel your going to use this summer, I'm going to stick with an entry level foil being less.   




By promoting barefooting here, I am not dissing foils at all. Look like a lot of fun. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDciz7VGyYA - This guy lives on Keith's lake where we had the 2007 reunion. He did a demo for us and gave a couple of us (Keith and I) some instruction. Keith did much better than I. I could get up and go but I couldnt quite get it to plane level out of the water...I was the master of overcompensation. But I can see how it would be fun.

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“So, how was your weekend?”
“Well, let me see…sun burn, stiff neck, screwed up back, assorted aches and pains….yup, my weekend was great, thanks for asking.”


Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: February-24-2010 at 4:05pm
Larry, do you wear goggles foiling?

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Posted By: 75 Tique
Date Posted: February-24-2010 at 4:18pm
I wear goggles when I do pretty much everything

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“So, how was your weekend?”
“Well, let me see…sun burn, stiff neck, screwed up back, assorted aches and pains….yup, my weekend was great, thanks for asking.”


Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: February-24-2010 at 4:21pm
TMI

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Posted By: TX Foilhead
Date Posted: February-25-2010 at 12:13am


just so everyone can get there minds out of the gutter and back to some foilin'. Sorry it's not a Correct Craft, but it 'deep up' everyone.


Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: February-25-2010 at 12:58pm
http://www.hydrofoil.org/history.html - Hydrofoil.org/history , where the pictures I posted came from.

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Posted By: SN206
Date Posted: February-26-2010 at 1:32am
Originally posted by TX Foilhead TX Foilhead wrote:

I'm thinking about it, we're doing a Mini Flyin @ Lake Murray OK the middle of May.


Send me an email shortly before you come up here(Murray). I've got a buddy with an 99SNOB that is dying to learn something on his foils.

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...those who have fallen and those who will.


Posted By: TX Foilhead
Date Posted: February-26-2010 at 2:22am
It's the weekend after Mothers Day. We ride Friday after lunch until about noon on Sunday. Most likely we'll be in a friends Xstar and camping in the field at Buzzards Roost. Tell him to check over on Foil Forums for more info, we'll start posting details in about a month. Last year we had about 20 foilers and 5 or 6 boats, should be a few more this year.


Posted By: SN206
Date Posted: February-26-2010 at 5:31pm
We'll be there.

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...those who have fallen and those who will.


Posted By: Netdewt
Date Posted: February-26-2010 at 5:57pm
Disheartened by the high cost of the hydrofoils, I tried to do some searching about what other sports are out there. I did a search for "watersports". Not what I was expecting.

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1989 Ski Nautique 2001, 880 hours


Posted By: DrCC
Date Posted: February-27-2010 at 2:58am
Yeah, But, think of all the money you'll be saving!


Posted By: 75 Tique
Date Posted: March-01-2010 at 12:00am
Originally posted by 75 Tique 75 Tique wrote:


If you're looking for someting other than boarding or skiing, go this route. Lot less than $1,700. Plus it's wicked cool and tons of fun.

(not me...stock photo)


When I posted that I just went to google images and picked the first picture I thought captured what I was getting at. Today, just to pass the time on a cold grey rainy day I was rereading the "learn to barefoot" thread and discovered that the picture above is our own "lakeboy" Roy. What are the odds? Well its no surprise to me I picked this picture...I think Roy is the epitome of the determined barefooter.

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“So, how was your weekend?”
“Well, let me see…sun burn, stiff neck, screwed up back, assorted aches and pains….yup, my weekend was great, thanks for asking.”


Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: March-12-2010 at 5:25pm
Kid Rock foils


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Posted By: kapla
Date Posted: March-15-2010 at 12:54am
Originally posted by Hollywood Hollywood wrote:

Kid Rock foils


nice way to foil!!!LOL

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<a href="">1992 ski nautique


Posted By: bubbaskier
Date Posted: March-15-2010 at 7:08pm
All I can say is I tried the Air Chair twice; can you say FACE-PLANT? There is very little reaction time from being OK to FACE-PLANT. However with that said I would be more than happy to try it again if I had the chance. Our motto is, "If your not bleeding, your not having any fun."


Posted By: WakeSlayer
Date Posted: March-16-2010 at 5:39pm
Originally posted by bubbaskier bubbaskier wrote:

There is very little reaction time from being OK to FACE-PLANT.


Actually, I always thought there was an immense amount of time to consider the looming impact. You are so high up, and know right away what is coming next. I knocked myself stupid one time on an old chair. Stars, split lip, semi concious.

Lastly, that kneeboard foil would be stupid. You would kill yourself. As a former avid kneeboarder, you would never get me on one.



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Posted By: TX Foilhead
Date Posted: April-12-2010 at 2:29am
Ryan, this is your advanced warning about the Lake Murray event, we're about a month away it going on May 14 - 16th @ Buzzards Roost.

Any one is welcome to come out, it's like the reunions, but we are there to ride hydrofoils instead of looking at boats. There will be some looking to learn to ride and maybe even a pro or 2, people came from as far away as Ohio and California last year, with the majority being from OK and North TX. If you need more details look for it over on foilforum.com or email me through either site my name is the same both places.


Posted By: SN206
Date Posted: April-13-2010 at 1:31pm
I'll be there. Thanks

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...those who have fallen and those who will.


Posted By: anthonylizardi
Date Posted: April-13-2010 at 4:20pm
Maybe I will go too. About 2 hours from my home. I have a few hours on the foil and would like to see some pros.


Posted By: TX Foilhead
Date Posted: April-14-2010 at 12:26am
Where are you coming from Anthony?


Posted By: SN206
Date Posted: April-14-2010 at 1:38am
Told a few friends, they're coming too. I think Anthony lives in North Dallas.

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...those who have fallen and those who will.


Posted By: anthonylizardi
Date Posted: April-15-2010 at 12:36am
Ryan is close. I live just west of the Dallas/FOrt Worth airport, about 3 miles.


Posted By: anthonylizardi
Date Posted: April-19-2010 at 8:30pm
Ryan, I will be giving a call. A couple of my friends wants to go to Lake Murray on May 8. I wonder if I can get some information. We are thinking about staying the weekend. Is there a place on the lake you can stay at. Maybe a hotel or camping?


Posted By: SN206
Date Posted: April-20-2010 at 12:52am
Call me @ 817-933-0105

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...those who have fallen and those who will.


Posted By: tullfooter
Date Posted: April-20-2010 at 1:26am
http://detroit.craigslist.org/okl/boa/1699926213.html - Airchair $500

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Play hard, life's not a trial run.
'85 BFN
'90 BFN



White Lake, Michigan



Posted By: TX Foilhead
Date Posted: April-20-2010 at 2:50am
Wow, "not a childs toy" My 8 year old would disagree with that. If any one is interested, that thing shouldn't be worth more than $250, if he really wants to be firm about $500 then it can keep collecting dust in his garage.

Anthony, take a thermometer with you to Lake Murray, we never can figure out what to take when we go. 1st time I took a spring suit and needed a full, next time I took a full suit and would have been better off in a drysuit.


Posted By: anthonylizardi
Date Posted: April-20-2010 at 1:57pm
Is really that cold?

Ryan, I got your number. I will call later in the week.


Posted By: TX Foilhead
Date Posted: April-20-2010 at 4:08pm
I would guess the water is between 65 and 70, but the air temp has been anywhere from 55 to 85. Last year we had a front blow through and the high might have gotten to 60 on Saturday and it was cloudy. The day before and after it was sunny and mid 80's.


Posted By: SN206
Date Posted: April-20-2010 at 4:14pm
Water temp is 69 degrees right now.

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...those who have fallen and those who will.


Posted By: SN206
Date Posted: April-23-2010 at 12:01pm
I highly reccomend you guys go over to Barefoot Central's website and check out thier newest feature. They now have a Livestream broadcast interviews with todays' persons making an impact in the sport of barefooting and other disciplines. You can ask questions to all. Last night they had the owner of Sanger boats on talking about boats and what the future holds for barefooting and freestyle barefooting. On April 26 @ 8:00E they will have Geno Yauchler. Geno is a popular foiler and will be at the Katy(Houston), TX NAutique Big Dawg Ski Jam hosted at Barefoot Central's compound. Just thought I would share.


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...those who have fallen and those who will.


Posted By: Swatkinz
Date Posted: April-27-2010 at 11:45pm
Had a chance to try the skyski this weekend thanks to a pull and some tips by JoeinNY at White Lake. It's definitely unlike anything I've ever been on. Ever. To paraphrase Joe, "Very subtle changes in rope/body position have dramatic effects on your success and/or failures."   Having said that, it was a lot of fun and I'd like to have one. Took me a couple of tries to get up and then a few more to figure out how to keep it down. Most other water toys seem to be challenging to figure out how to get up. This one, for me at least, was more challenging to figure out how to keep it from riding up high on that foil, which for a beginner is the very first part of an incredibly massive face plant.

There are 2 things that I didn't like.
1. It's huge. If you have to carry it around in your boat all day with all your other gear (as i do), that alone would be enough to keep me from getting one.
2. Expense. This would definitely be a water toy that I'd be going in with my regular ski buds to split the cost on. No way I could swing a grand or more for one by myself.

Still, really cool toy and easier on the body vs. wakeboarding etc... As long as your not falling.

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Steve
2011 Sport/Air 200
Excalibur 343
2017 Boatmate Tandem Axle Trailer

Former CC owner (77, 80, 95, 88, all SNs)

Former Malibu owner (07, 09)


Posted By: pmccook1
Date Posted: April-28-2010 at 1:12am
Swatkinz,

   How bad are the spills from riding high and doing a face plant ?
   How does it feel when you hit the water with it buckled on your waist?   

    I was thinking about a foil or a wakekite. But after watching the video of the does and don'ts of the wakekite, i'm leaning more toward the foil.   I know its big, but look how big the kite would be lugging it around all day.   I'm like you, I don't like to be tied to the dock.
I don't know of anyone in GA that has a foil to try out. But I'd sure like to try it before I buy it. a used one of course


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pmccook1

Current boat:1993 Ski Nautique " Purple "
Have owned : 76' ski nautique, 93' Sport Nautique, 83 Stars and stripes, 47' Chris Craft Continental


Posted By: TX Foilhead
Date Posted: April-28-2010 at 2:31am
If you learned to get up on it quickly, that's great. We have found that people who slalom a lot seem to have the most difficulty. They want to tug and push and pull on things and it really just requires that you sit still and follow the boat.

The next major lesson is to not push on your feet, it's a natural reaction to avoid danger but on the foil it causes it. That lesson is learned fairly quickly and the worst of the crashes are done until you start to jump.

If you have learned the safety position (arms out, bend forward at the waist to set the board on the water) well then jumping shouldn't cause you much if any pain. Try to take everything bacerds and you will avoid the faceplants.

Speaking of the faceplants, they will get your attention, but really it is just the same old slap on the water and getting water in your nose and eyelids that seem to happen from learning anything new behind a boat.     I have taken similar falls on skis, wakeboards, kneeboards and tubes. With the foils you can slow the boat down below 20 and minimize the impacts while your learning. I think the record for the slowest roll is 7 or 8 mph.

They do take up a bit of room in the boat, but we found that the are be hind the driver in a direct drive is usually unused, the other side of the motor works for the next one, and there is room for 2 more in the back with the seat removed. In my Excel I have had 6 with 6 riders.

As for the cost, anyone can ride any foil, and most tricks have been done on all variations of the the Sky Skis. The more expensive foils are lighter, smoother, and more responsive, but require no special skills to ride. If get into it you will end up with the high end equipment so purchase all you can afford and upgrade the rest as you can.

That's about all the rambling I have tonight, but for anyone interested in foiling go over to Foilforums.com and have a look around, we have just about all the info you could ever want on hydrofoiling.


Posted By: Swatkinz
Date Posted: April-28-2010 at 1:12pm
Originally posted by pmccook1 pmccook1 wrote:

Swatkinz,

   How bad are the spills from riding high and doing a face plant ?
   How does it feel when you hit the water with it buckled on your waist?   



I didn't do much face planting. Not that I'm good or a natural, I just took it real easy. I am a working dad and can't afford to get hurt having fun. I agree with foilhead that the faceplants probably aren't much worse than a bad wakeboard fall, but I've had some pretty tough falls on a wakeboard. I think just the thought that doing a faceplant when your strapped to the extreme end of that catapult probably is more mentally intimidating than anything else.   

As far as falls being buckled in...again I took it pretty easy and had no bad, scary falls. Certainly nothing that hurt b/c of the straps. The thing that would be concerning though is if either your feet somehow got unstrapped or your waist got unstrapped. I'd think that you could really injure yourself IF that happened, but those straps have you buckled in pretty good. That concern wouldn't keep me from riding the heck out of one if I had it at my disposal.

I have a buddy with a pontoon that always anchors up with us that wants to go in on one with a couple of other friends. That wouldn't be a bad thing as it'd offset the cost and we could keep it on his pontoon while we aren't using it. Going in splitting the cost, I'd probably put in $300, but would have trouble paying more than that. If we decide to do that, I'll let you know and maybe you could come do a day trip over here and give it a try since you're in Georgia

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Steve
2011 Sport/Air 200
Excalibur 343
2017 Boatmate Tandem Axle Trailer

Former CC owner (77, 80, 95, 88, all SNs)

Former Malibu owner (07, 09)


Posted By: pmccook1
Date Posted: April-28-2010 at 6:24pm
So you saying if I can find any year model skyski it will be a good one ?

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pmccook1

Current boat:1993 Ski Nautique " Purple "
Have owned : 76' ski nautique, 93' Sport Nautique, 83 Stars and stripes, 47' Chris Craft Continental


Posted By: TX Foilhead
Date Posted: April-28-2010 at 8:12pm
Sky Ski foils are superior to Air Chair foils with one exception. Geno was having some foils made the last 2 or 3 years that were his design and he sold them direct. They were made by Sky Ski and would mostl likely be in the $3000 range if you found one. Now that he is riding for Sky Ski he has an official Pro Model that is slightly different from the normal LE 38. Sky Ski started making billet foils for the whole line up in 2003 I think and those are supireor in strength and ride better than most of the early cast foils. The nice thing about starting on the Sky Ski billet stuff is that it is all standardized. This allows you to upgrade parts, all front wings work with all TBars as do all seat towers. The moveable rear wings can be adapted to work on all TBars with either an adapter plate or some cutting and drilling for those who are handy.   The best part about billet equipment is that it can be annodized so if you ride in less than pristine water you don't have to polish stuff all the time.   I seem to get about a months worth of rides before I need to polish my wings and once I make up mi mind what color I want they will be annoed.   


Posted By: pmccook1
Date Posted: April-28-2010 at 10:02pm
What exactly is the difference in the sky and Air foils ?    They seem to look exactly the same to me in the pic's. The air chair comes with 3 wings.   I found a air chair not to far from me for a fair price. its a 2008 model.   Should I go look at it or keep looking for a skyski ?

   And why do they need such a polished surface ?

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pmccook1

Current boat:1993 Ski Nautique " Purple "
Have owned : 76' ski nautique, 93' Sport Nautique, 83 Stars and stripes, 47' Chris Craft Continental


Posted By: TX Foilhead
Date Posted: April-29-2010 at 1:03am
The Air Chairs are just not as stable, I have seen people who can ride them well, but there aren't many. It may not seem or feel any direrent at first, but as you learn to do things the lack of control will slow or stop your progression. There are no natural hydrofoilers, riding with people who know what they are doing is a big help and can push you to learn things faster, but everyone still goes through the same falls as they progress. The newer equipment has allowed people to go higher at slower speeds which saves wear and tear on your body.

The reason that everything is polished is because it rides better that way. They become draggy and less responsive as they tarnish. The annodizing is a trade off, it doesn't feel quite as good as the polished, but they are consistant and save time. It is really about the edges of the wings and how they respond to the water. Just like skiers have slow and fast lakes, hydrofoils ride differently in clear or cloudy water and also behave diferently as the water warms and cools. The annodizing dulls the edges of. The wing slightly because it makes it thicker.

All of that won't really make much of a difference to you until you get onto the upper end equipment, but it is good to have your gear working as good as you can get it.    


Posted By: pmccook1
Date Posted: April-29-2010 at 1:15am
Thanks for your input, I wouldn't have thought there would be that much difference.   now to hunt down a skyski I can afford.

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pmccook1

Current boat:1993 Ski Nautique " Purple "
Have owned : 76' ski nautique, 93' Sport Nautique, 83 Stars and stripes, 47' Chris Craft Continental


Posted By: SN206
Date Posted: May-07-2010 at 11:04am
Originally posted by TX Foilhead TX Foilhead wrote:

It's the weekend after Mothers Day. We ride Friday after lunch until about noon on Sunday. Most likely we'll be in a friends Xstar and camping in the field at Buzzards Roost. Tell him to check over on Foil Forums for more info, we'll start posting details in about a month. Last year we had about 20 foilers and 5 or 6 boats, should be a few more this year.


Are we still a go for next weekend?

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...those who have fallen and those who will.


Posted By: TX Foilhead
Date Posted: May-07-2010 at 12:18pm
Yep, looks like about 15 or 20 people and we've got 3 or 4 new wings to play with that are new to the market. Most people will be getting up there by lunch time or so on Friday, some Thursday night. Give me a call so I can get your friends info and I will fill him in on the details and tell him how to get ahold of us when he gets there.    


Posted By: SN206
Date Posted: May-07-2010 at 4:34pm
Don, mispalced your #

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...those who have fallen and those who will.


Posted By: SN206
Date Posted: May-11-2010 at 2:07am
Well, after tonights storms there is no question the lake will be up for you guys if not at capacity. Water temp is 77. I'm still trying to make it. Anthony was up there this last weekend, but have yet to here how the weekend went.

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...those who have fallen and those who will.


Posted By: TX Foilhead
Date Posted: May-11-2010 at 2:34am
I talked to James the other night, looks like we will have a large group if everyone makes it, somewhere between 30 and 40. Weather doesn't look like it is going to be the best, but not as bad as today was, and no 50s during theday like last year. Fortunately we are all flexible and don't mind drinking and tellin lies, I mean stories when we can't get in the water.    


Posted By: anthonylizardi
Date Posted: May-11-2010 at 2:43am
Ryan,
    Lake Murray is great. The water was very clear, I was impressed. The water temperature is very comfortable but a bit chill. During the day it warmed up very nicely. I was not able to do a hole lot. It was really windy the whole weekend, white caps everywhere. It think it was a sustained 18+mph wind. You were right about the park rangers around the park, two of my friends got speeding tickets. The floating cabins my friends stayed at were awesome. We camped at Tipps Point, nice place. The Marietta Landing camp ground looked a lot better. We wanted to be close to the cabins, so we stayed at Tipps. It rained on Sunday morning. I look forward to go back. I won't be able to make it next weekend.


Posted By: SN206
Date Posted: May-11-2010 at 3:05am
Anthony, just don't tell anymore Texans about the lake, it's an Okie secret!

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...those who have fallen and those who will.


Posted By: anthonylizardi
Date Posted: May-11-2010 at 10:01pm
I won't tell anybody but is an awesome lake. I am going back when it gets really hot down here.


Posted By: SN206
Date Posted: May-11-2010 at 10:17pm
It's a spring fed lake, so it stays a little cooler in the summer.

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...those who have fallen and those who will.


Posted By: TX Foilhead
Date Posted: May-14-2010 at 9:54pm
In case someone is watching this instead of the tornado thread, we are at Laake murray this weekend, looks like we will be dodging rain, but have the place to ourselves so come on out.

For anyone looking for a foil I have seen a couple list on foilforum in the past week.


Posted By: SN206
Date Posted: May-14-2010 at 11:04pm
Don call me when you get a chance.

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...those who have fallen and those who will.


Posted By: SN206
Date Posted: May-16-2010 at 1:37am


















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...those who have fallen and those who will.


Posted By: SN206
Date Posted: May-16-2010 at 1:42am
HOLY RESIZING ISSUES BATMAN! Just wanted to let everyone know that we had a great time with Don, his wife and the other foilers. For those who don't know there is alot of fun involved with this discipline of skiing, Had a great time! Thanks again Don!

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...those who have fallen and those who will.


Posted By: TX Foilhead
Date Posted: May-17-2010 at 2:01pm
Runnig a wing into the ground where Ryan had mentioned it was shallow - $0 and a few hours worth of work.

Slicing open the wrist seal on my drysuit while checking on that wing. - $50 and another few hours worth of work.

Listening to excuses about how much foils cost and how they will beat you to death, and then seeing the same barefooters take a few pulls and falls. - pricless

We're still laughing at all the excuses we heard, the conditions were amazing after the rain stopped on Friday and while the foilers tried our best the mess up the water, I still had a few inverts where I was having a hard time spoting my landings because it was too smooth. Ryan and James were able to foot in the middle of the afternoon on a Saturday. We'll get all you coverted over one of these days, you can even keep using your barefoot suits for protection.    

Ryan, thanks for hauling us around all day Saturday, were trying to figure out how to make it up for the Reunion next month, hope we can rearange the scheduals.     


Posted By: Lars Kompisen
Date Posted: October-18-2010 at 4:44pm
If you try hydrofoiling, you will never want to do another watersport again

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Posted By: blmeanie
Date Posted: February-06-2011 at 1:23pm
pmccook1 - there are bunches of foilers in Georgia, depending on where you are in the state you could easily get hooked up with a ride. I know of some on Lake Lanier, I'm on Allatoona (know of a couple others on Allatoona too), some in Villa Rica, group on Lake Oconee.

As TxFoilhead suggested, getting on http://foilforum.com - foilforum.com can assist you in getting in touch with riders no matter where you are.


Originally posted by pmccook1 pmccook1 wrote:


I don't know of anyone in GA that has a foil to try out. But I'd sure like to try it before I buy it. a used one of course



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