1989 Ski Nautique 2001 Fuel Water Separator
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Topic: 1989 Ski Nautique 2001 Fuel Water Separator
Posted By: Vancouver Matt
Subject: 1989 Ski Nautique 2001 Fuel Water Separator
Date Posted: April-22-2010 at 9:33pm
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Hi There,
How do you know when to change the Fuel / Water Separator? Where can you buy these? How much are they. Mine has approx 150 hours. ------------- Matthew |
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Posted By: OverMyHead
Date Posted: April-22-2010 at 11:46pm
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Happened to get mine at west marine, stopped in to check out their store at the time I needed one. Not sure of the interval. I am hoping for evey other season, but I do not get many hours on my boat. ------------- For thousands of years men have felt the irresistible urge to go to sea, and many of them died. Things got better after they invented boats. 1987 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: SNobsessed
Date Posted: April-22-2010 at 11:46pm
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Matt - I bought mine at NAPA. Was kinda pricey, around $30. Better than a carb rebuild I guess. I replaced mine because I had no idea how old it was from PO - that was about 150 hrs ago. I am planning on running it again this year. I probably should empty the canister, might have water in it. ------------- “Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.” Ben Franklin |
Posted By: kapla
Date Posted: April-23-2010 at 12:19am
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I change my fuel filter every 2 oil changes so that makes 100 hours on them... ------------- <a href="">1992 ski nautique |
Posted By: Nautiquehunter
Date Posted: April-23-2010 at 12:43am
Is it the large 2 piece canister type? It such a large filter I went 300 hours on mine there was no water in the canister and the filter was still pretty much clean even after I cut the ends off the inside had almost no debris in it. I got mine from car quest auto parts it was a exact replacement.
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Posted By: lonestar
Date Posted: April-23-2010 at 8:54am
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I change mine every spring. I have an 88 and the filter is a little different. I can say this, when I removed the filter last week it had been sitting in fuel since the fall and there were rubber pieces that had started to break down. ------------- lonestar |
Posted By: Vancouver Matt
Date Posted: April-27-2010 at 9:10pm
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Does anyone know the Part # for this 1989 fuel water separator? Is this Fram who makes this? ------------- Matthew |
Posted By: Nautiquehunter
Date Posted: April-27-2010 at 11:07pm
| The pic I posted is a filter off a 1989 PCM 351. |
Posted By: Vancouver Matt
Date Posted: May-06-2010 at 7:15pm
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I tried getting the Black Canister off with a Filter Wrench. No chance and it's so tight down there.
Any tips? ------------- Matthew |
Posted By: phatsat67
Date Posted: May-06-2010 at 11:49pm
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I believe there's at a bolt at the bottom that lets the canister come off. I tried to get mine off like that no dice.
Im bad though 400 hours and idk how old it was before i bought it but thats 400 in 3 seasons haha |
Posted By: SNobsessed
Date Posted: May-07-2010 at 12:51am
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Matt - It's actually easiest to remove the entire unit & chuck it in a vice - then you can get some torque on it.
------------- “Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.” Ben Franklin |
Posted By: Dank
Date Posted: July-07-2010 at 3:26pm
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Any update Matt? I went to change mine and had the same problem. I thought I would just be able to unscrew the canister from the lid by hand, but no dice. ------------- "I don't know what the world may need, but a http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=886&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - V8 engine's a good start for me" |
Posted By: Vancouver Matt
Date Posted: July-07-2010 at 5:02pm
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Honestly...I just left it for this season and might change it with the dealer over the winter. I have 908 hrs on the boat and last filter change was at 835 hrs. Not worried as I keep the boat underground in heated parking.
Cant believe how hard those are to get off! How many hours do you have on yours? I love your boat. Big Block makes a big difference with HP's ! ------------- Matthew |
Posted By: Bri892001
Date Posted: July-07-2010 at 6:51pm
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I know Nautique parts is one source for these:
http://nautiqueparts.com/fuelfilterwaterseparator.aspx - Fuel Filter/Water Separator The above is the one that mine allegedly in mine, but I couldn't find it. All I could find is the regular in line fuel filter type, that would be similar to what's in a car. Where is it typically located? |
Posted By: Vancouver Matt
Date Posted: July-07-2010 at 7:08pm
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Mines down below the front right (when facing in the observer's seat) of the engine. Beside the Oil Filter. ------------- Matthew |
Posted By: Bri892001
Date Posted: July-07-2010 at 7:26pm
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Ok, thanks. I guess mine doesn't have one then.
The newer style ones look like a little actual oil filter, they just spin on and off it looks like. |
Posted By: Clew In
Date Posted: July-07-2010 at 8:32pm
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Hey,
My 1982 does not screw off. You loosen the bolt and the housing slides off. Clew In ------------- Clew In |
Posted By: horkn
Date Posted: July-07-2010 at 9:03pm
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It looks like CC was all over the board with the design of these.
My 78 Martinique's screws off, and looks just like an oil filter. ------------- 78 martinique- refloored, reinforced, stringers re glassed, re engineered interior GT40P heads Edelbrock Performer intake acme 4 blade http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v64/horkn/fish/nautique.jpg |
Posted By: Vancouver Matt
Date Posted: July-07-2010 at 9:13pm
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Mine looks like a long Oil Filter Too but does not screw off easily. It's stuck! ------------- Matthew |
Posted By: horkn
Date Posted: July-07-2010 at 10:38pm
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Matt, the first time I took mine off it was ont here pretty good as well. When I put the new one on, I used a little petroleum jelly on the gasket and it has come off with no issues since.
I hope I did not jinx myself as I will be changing mine out and putting in a solid steel brake line for the feed line to the carb. ------------- 78 martinique- refloored, reinforced, stringers re glassed, re engineered interior GT40P heads Edelbrock Performer intake acme 4 blade http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v64/horkn/fish/nautique.jpg |
Posted By: Bri892001
Date Posted: July-08-2010 at 2:13am
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Depending on how similar it is to an oil filter, maybe something like this would work:
http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item.asp?P65=&tool=all&item_ID=16349&group_ID=1535&store=snapon-store&dir=catalog - Oil Filter Pliers They make them in some different sizes and a lot of companies make them. They work great on stubborn oil filters. You just have to be careful not to totally crush it, in case it's really not coming off and you have to leave it in place. The strap type works well and this type works well too if you can get a bite: http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item.asp?P65=&tool=all&item_ID=90731&group_ID=1534&store=&dir=catalog - Oil Filter Wrench |
Posted By: JHadji
Date Posted: July-09-2010 at 10:48am
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I have an 88 and can't ever get that thing off. I seem to end up waiting until I have to go to the marina for something else and let him take it off. The mechanic told me if it's on for longer than a season, he can't spin it off either w/o taking it to a vice. I'm going to start dumping it when I winterize. ------------- 1988SkiNautique2001 |
Posted By: lewy2001
Date Posted: July-09-2010 at 11:03am
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If you mount the filter assembly upside down on the existing mount it is much easier to remove. I then used a belt style oil filter removal tool to break it loose. ------------- If you're going through hell, keep going http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=2999" rel="nofollow - 89 Ski <a href="http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5685" ta |
Posted By: Morfoot
Date Posted: July-09-2010 at 11:21am
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Matt, I've got the NAPA Part # written down in my manual at home. I'll look it up and post it. ------------- "Morfoot; He can ski. He can wakeboard.He can cook chicken.He can create his own self-named beverage, & can also apparently fly. A man of many talents."72 Mustang "Kermit",88 SN Miss Scarlett, 99 SN "Sherman" |
Posted By: emccallum
Date Posted: July-09-2010 at 12:13pm
| If you are going to be running ethanol fuel in your boat I would consider upgrading to a fuel/water seperator type filter that is compatible with ethanol fuels and change it every year or two. I really dont think the old small Fram filters (C111OPL) will do well long term in ethanol fuel. I think there was another thread showing a really gunked up filter a few montyhs ago. |
Posted By: Mrusso94
Date Posted: July-09-2010 at 5:45pm
Not a bad idea, i just changed out all the fuel line on my 79 supreme, the ethanol eats up the older stuff.. |
emccallum wrote:Posted By: Morfoot
Date Posted: July-09-2010 at 6:41pm
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Okay the NAPA part # is
NAPA Gold 3436 ------------- "Morfoot; He can ski. He can wakeboard.He can cook chicken.He can create his own self-named beverage, & can also apparently fly. A man of many talents."72 Mustang "Kermit",88 SN Miss Scarlett, 99 SN "Sherman" |
Posted By: Dank
Date Posted: July-18-2010 at 6:10pm
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@ Matt - Thanx :)
Here are a couple of pics of mine. I think I've finally determined that leaving it connected to the bracket, and using an oil filter wrench might be the best way to get it off...just have to go pick one up :) Another question, the 2 small plugs on the top, what are they for? Bleeding air out of the fuel line? 
 ------------- "I don't know what the world may need, but a http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=886&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - V8 engine's a good start for me" |
Posted By: Clew In
Date Posted: July-18-2010 at 10:59pm
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Hey,
That looks like mine and it bolts on and the canister does not screw off. Maybe they made some that screw off that look the same???? Clew In ------------- Clew In |
Posted By: Dank
Date Posted: July-18-2010 at 11:37pm
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Bolts on from the bottom? There is a bolt on the bottom I think. ------------- "I don't know what the world may need, but a http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=886&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - V8 engine's a good start for me" |
Posted By: Clew In
Date Posted: July-18-2010 at 11:59pm
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Hey,
I think it is the middle one or ones on top. The bottom would be to drain the water. It has been a while since I have taken mine off. Clew In ------------- Clew In |
Posted By: Nautiquehunter
Date Posted: July-19-2010 at 10:55am
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Same as mine remove the top center bolt and the canister will drop down.
Inside there is a folded paper filter like this.
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Posted By: Dank
Date Posted: July-19-2010 at 7:33pm
From the PCM service manual:
I guess they figure it's "intuitively obvious" ------------- "I don't know what the world may need, but a http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=886&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - V8 engine's a good start for me" |
Posted By: Vancouver Matt
Date Posted: July-21-2010 at 5:42pm
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Which one is the retaining screw? ------------- Matthew |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: July-21-2010 at 5:55pm
------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: Dank
Date Posted: August-01-2010 at 3:32pm
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Final Verdict:
It screws off. Mine might be different than some of yours, remember I've got a PCM 454 in my boat. The filter is a Fram CCS1136. It's a 5 minute job if you have the right tools...weeks if you do not :) Finally got it open w/a vice and a pipe wrench. The two plugs are top are only about a 1/2 in long and are for bleeding the line. Didn't fix my hesitation problem though :( Oh well, on to the fuel pump and the carb. ------------- "I don't know what the world may need, but a http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=886&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - V8 engine's a good start for me" |
Posted By: FUN-9C1
Date Posted: August-04-2010 at 3:54pm
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The Napa filter comes with a drawing of the canister and tells you what's what. If you're not in a hurry, though, Napa ia about twice as much as Skidim.com. ------------- '86 2001 '50 Century Imperial Sportsman |
Posted By: Clew In
Date Posted: August-04-2010 at 7:25pm
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Hey,
Can you post a copy of the canister and the correct position of the gaskets and spring. The filter from DIM has three gaskets and I would like to know the correct place for the two that go inside the canister. Thanks, Clew In ------------- Clew In |
Posted By: dwouncmd
Date Posted: July-06-2020 at 2:08pm
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I am resurrecting this thread because of a failed ski outing yesterday, to thank you all and CCF for helping with another boat problem, and to say hello again after a very long absence. Why have I been gone so long? My level of busy at work has been barely manageable over the past 3-4 years. The kids and I are still skiing, but I have not been keeping up with the forum, or traveling to CCF events. I want you to know that I have missed you all and think about you often. Thanks Morfoot for the parts number. I hope all is well with you. So, on to the story. After having plugs and wires, as well as the steering cable replaced in the 89 SN, I got the family on the boat yesterday to do some skiing. Sadly, having just gotten the boat back this past Friday, it was our first time out this year. The boat started fine, but about 1/4 mile from the dock, while getting on plane, the motor dies. Waiting a few minutes, the boat started, but died again. It seemed obvious that it was not getting enough fuel. I called the inboard mechanic, what gives? He says that the boat lake tested fine this past Friday. He asked about the fuel/water separator and filter. I reply, "Ummm, about that..." The kids, year round swimmers, are getting big, they pushed the boat back to the dock kicking from the swim platform. The skipper (term used loosely) of the Grady White 500 yards away did not offer offer to help, even though I am pretty sure he saw the motor box open and the kids swimming.  I am truly embarrassed to say that I have not had the fuel separator apart, ever. It was quietly doing its thing until this past Sunday. Why I should think oil filters need replacing and fuel filters don't, I don't know. In fact, this is not the first time I have had a fuel filter problem in a boat, but that was many, many years ago. So, as shown in other posts on page one of this thread, the filter if forward of the motor, hanging from a bracket that is lag bolted into the stringer. The filter is inside a shell that screws on like an oil filter. I had to disconnect the fuel lines and take the whole thing out and screw the mounting bracket to a work bench to get the shell off using a big wrench on the hex nut shape at the bottom. I cleaned the shell out. The gas in the separator was dirty, and likely had a little water underneath. The filter is ancient. Clearly too long since it has been changed. A new filter is on order (Wix part number 33436). I figure the 1.5 hours road trip shook the dirt and water up causing the failure. We will see what happens when the new filter arrive. Regardless, lesson learned. I will be sure to add regular check and maintenance of the separator with replacement of the filter to the usual oil and impeller changes.     ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=6535&sort=&pagenum=2" rel="nofollow - 89 SN <a href="http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=6567&sort=&pagenum=1" rel="nofollow">7 |