1980 in the Diaries
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Topic: 1980 in the Diaries
Posted By: bkhallpass
Subject: 1980 in the Diaries
Date Posted: May-10-2010 at 4:40am
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Has the fiberglass pan trailer. Looks like it would be a nice project.
$1100 in the diaries. http://correctcraftfan.com/forsale/details.asp?ID=5135&sort=&pagenum=2 - 1980 in diaries with pan trailer BKH ------------- Livin' the Dream |
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Posted By: M3Fan
Date Posted: May-10-2010 at 10:33am
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I thought the same thing! That would be a nice snag. ------------- 2000 SN GT40 w/99 Graphics/Gel 2016 SN 200 OB 5.3L DI https://forum.fifteenoff.com |
Posted By: Donald80SN
Date Posted: May-10-2010 at 11:14am
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Yes, I would love to have the trailer. Too bad it is so far from me.
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Posted By: SN206
Date Posted: May-10-2010 at 11:34am
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Hell, thats damn near in my back yard. Just e few minutes from the house. I can go by there take a look / pictures if someone was interested? ------------- ...those who have fallen and those who will. |
Posted By: Hawktique
Date Posted: May-10-2010 at 11:56am
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That would be a good start to a v-drive conversion. Wife or another boat? Another boat may be cheaper... ------------- "A Veteran is someone who at one point in his life, wrote a blank check made payable to: 'The United States of America,' for an amount of 'up to, and including his life." Semper Fi |
Posted By: 79nautique
Date Posted: May-10-2010 at 2:47pm
what the hell are you smoking? better lay off of it while you have a brain cell left.  ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=756&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1979&yrend=1979 - 79 nautique |
Hawktique wrote:Posted By: storm34
Date Posted: May-10-2010 at 2:51pm
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....keep it original ------------- |
Posted By: DrCC
Date Posted: May-10-2010 at 3:02pm
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Why do I get the feeling there maybe a few parts missing since the photo.
If I had a spare grand laying around, I'd be headed to Fort Worth. AT |
Posted By: Hawktique
Date Posted: May-10-2010 at 3:05pm
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No offense 79, but I was very intrigued by formandfunction?'s v-drive conversion. I was just kidding to see what type of response that would get from some of the purists. I wouldn't think of doing it to my '90, but I'd love to be part of a big customization project like that. ------------- "A Veteran is someone who at one point in his life, wrote a blank check made payable to: 'The United States of America,' for an amount of 'up to, and including his life." Semper Fi |
Posted By: kapla
Date Posted: May-10-2010 at 3:18pm
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Nice...
how much the trailer it self..probably close to 1k..so the boat its actually for free... ------------- <a href="">1992 ski nautique |
Posted By: 79nautique
Date Posted: May-10-2010 at 3:46pm
How's that collection coming along Pete?   ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=756&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1979&yrend=1979 - 79 nautique |
Posted By: SN206
Date Posted: May-10-2010 at 3:56pm
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Talk to owner, he said some guy from Georga has made him an offer but.......If someone wants me go go by there and take some photos, I'm about 20 minutes away. ------------- ...those who have fallen and those who will. |
Posted By: Morfoot
Date Posted: May-10-2010 at 3:58pm
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Wasn't Me! Better check with BuffaloBFN,Jimsport or clarkebar. Any you guys headed out west? ------------- "Morfoot; He can ski. He can wakeboard.He can cook chicken.He can create his own self-named beverage, & can also apparently fly. A man of many talents."72 Mustang "Kermit",88 SN Miss Scarlett, 99 SN "Sherman" |
Posted By: SN206
Date Posted: May-10-2010 at 4:02pm
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Said his name was Stan. ------------- ...those who have fallen and those who will. |
Posted By: jbear
Date Posted: May-11-2010 at 2:24am
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Heres how smart I am...had one of those trailers under my '78...hated it...could not get under the boat to wax the bottom. Was so glad to get rid of it when I bought my '81 from my brother. Sure wish I had that trailer back now...especially after I saw what Alan made his look like.
john ------------- "Loud pipes save lives" AdamT sez "I'm Canadian and a beaver lover myself"... |
Posted By: 75 Tique
Date Posted: May-11-2010 at 11:15am
Just curious why you had that reaction Chris. I realize its not original and all that, but I think the two v-drive conversions we've seen have been pretty cool projects. ------------- _____________ “So, how was your weekend?” “Well, let me see…sun burn, stiff neck, screwed up back, assorted aches and pains….yup, my weekend was great, thanks for asking.” |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: May-11-2010 at 11:44am
Cool is in the eye of the beholder. Speaking of VDs, Larry you guys didn't cover up that wreck too well. I saw it 2 weeks ago and it looks worse than ever. ------------- |
Posted By: bkhallpass
Date Posted: May-11-2010 at 1:47pm
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Chris can speak for himself.
I did have the thought myself that this particular setup would not be a good candidate for converting to a V-Drive. I have my doubts that the 1980 hull would make a good VDrive. Potentially, it could be very fast in a straight line, but I would guess it would handle poorly, and I don't think it would be very good for skiing or wakeboarding in a VDrive configuration. Also, there would be a lot of fabrication involved moving that fiberglass pan around to accomodate the axle move on the trailer. BKH ------------- Livin' the Dream |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: May-11-2010 at 2:28pm
Well, most here know me well enough to know I had the same reaction to the V drive conversion!!! Not on a classic boat like that. I'd rather see someone start with a Bayliner I/O!!  ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: peter1234
Date Posted: May-11-2010 at 3:25pm
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what is a v drive conversion not a I/O and not a shaft like mine? whats the purpose and advantage disadvantage ------------- former skylark owner now a formula but I cant let this place go |
Posted By: 75 Tique
Date Posted: May-11-2010 at 3:43pm
Peter, A couple of guys have taken their 2001s and turned them into v-drives, like the newer, bigger wakeboard boats: engines turned around, slid to the back, shaft goes out toward the front, through a v-drive and then out the normal place. Form and function is wrapping up his project, long thread on it here and a fellow who goes by 84 resto did the first one, documented on "the2001" site. Advantages? You would have to ask them, but I guess they are going for the larger v-drive wake for wakeboarding, plus it makes for better use of space in the boat. Top one is 84resto's bottom one is form&functions. 
 ------------- _____________ “So, how was your weekend?” “Well, let me see…sun burn, stiff neck, screwed up back, assorted aches and pains….yup, my weekend was great, thanks for asking.” |
Posted By: 79nautique
Date Posted: May-11-2010 at 3:55pm
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nothing like screwing up a good boat, good luck selling it one day, value goes to zero after the conversion.
just not worth the time and effort to redo the stringers, relocate gas tank and destroy the boat's value, oh and the pylon sticking up like that really cool if your a tool I guess, but POS comes to mind for me. better use of space? being on top of each other now, guess they're midgets too. Butt ugly IMHO and a waiste of money that you'll never get back out of it. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=756&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1979&yrend=1979 - 79 nautique |
Posted By: Wacko
Date Posted: May-11-2010 at 4:00pm
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Chris,
Tell us what you really think.
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Posted By: 75 Tique
Date Posted: May-11-2010 at 4:08pm
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Well then my suggestion to you Chris, would be to not do it. However, maybe its what these guys wanted to do for themselves, and didnt mind spending the time and money doing what they wanted to do for themselves. Maybe they didn't do it to sell it, maybe they did it to use it. I don't think its that much different than guys making hot rods out of 30's or 40's vintage cars or chopping a motor cycle. ------------- _____________ “So, how was your weekend?” “Well, let me see…sun burn, stiff neck, screwed up back, assorted aches and pains….yup, my weekend was great, thanks for asking.” |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: May-11-2010 at 4:11pm
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or George Barris turning a Corvette or a GTO into a station wagon... ------------- |
Posted By: 79nautique
Date Posted: May-11-2010 at 4:40pm
and did you see how little money he got for those customs at Barrett-Jackson? And how much more the 30's and 40's resto mod's sold for? three four five times higher? Class and taste isn't something everyone has or this example either. to each there own, if their happy great, hope it turmed out the way they wanted, just not my cup of tea. Weather they want to or not I feel they will be holding on to the boat for quite some time or will be taking a hugh loss to unload it, then again maybe 75 can bail them out and be stuck with it. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=756&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1979&yrend=1979 - 79 nautique |
Posted By: Hawktique
Date Posted: May-11-2010 at 5:05pm
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I'm still a fan of good ol customization. There are many cars/boats that I've seen customized and appreciated, even if I would never do the same thing to my own property. Here is a perfect example of something I would never think of doing to my own boat. http://www.americanboatingcenters.com/pre_owned_detail.asp?sid=06766626X5K11K2010J1I02I52JPMQ5195R0&veh=1560160 - Camo Nautique ------------- "A Veteran is someone who at one point in his life, wrote a blank check made payable to: 'The United States of America,' for an amount of 'up to, and including his life." Semper Fi |
Posted By: 75 Tique
Date Posted: May-11-2010 at 5:12pm
Didn't say it was or wasn't my cup of tea...just saying everyone here is entitled to have their own tea however they want it without having someone tell them they can't have their tea that way, or that they are wrong, stupid or bad for having their tea that way...which is different from saying I don't care to have my tea that way...big difference, one that is overlooked around here on ocassion. ------------- _____________ “So, how was your weekend?” “Well, let me see…sun burn, stiff neck, screwed up back, assorted aches and pains….yup, my weekend was great, thanks for asking.” |
Posted By: storm34
Date Posted: May-11-2010 at 5:13pm
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Posted By: 79nautique
Date Posted: May-11-2010 at 5:16pm
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Customizing brings too much personal taste into it and most don't have the eye or creativity to pull it off and end up in left field like these three examples, nothing like turning a good design into a piece of junk because they are color blind and have no style or taste for what really looks good, If done right yes a real head turning can be made but everyone's not a Chip Foose or a designer either and that makes all of the difference and what works and doesn't work, and the 70's and 80's hulls are just too narrow to be a v-drive and look good well unless you like the trailer park look or don't care how stupid it comes across to others. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=756&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1979&yrend=1979 - 79 nautique |
Posted By: Hawktique
Date Posted: May-11-2010 at 5:49pm
http://www.correctcraftfan.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15448&PN=13&title=2001v-drive - Here is an example of a V-Drive conversion. ------------- "A Veteran is someone who at one point in his life, wrote a blank check made payable to: 'The United States of America,' for an amount of 'up to, and including his life." Semper Fi |
Posted By: C-Bass
Date Posted: May-11-2010 at 6:19pm
Holy metaphore Batman! Great post Larry. Agree 100% ------------- Craig 67 SN 73 SN http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=6103" rel="nofollow - 99 Sport 85SN |
Posted By: SN206
Date Posted: May-11-2010 at 10:11pm
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IMO, if people were not willing to try something and take a risk, then we would all "be in the same boat". CC went out on a limb and built a boat / hull for other disciplines and look who's number one now in the wakeboard boat industry. ------------- ...those who have fallen and those who will. |
Posted By: dip
Date Posted: May-12-2010 at 2:35am
| If you were talking about a rare craft where a few custom projects really diminished the pool of authentic models, I might agree with the holier than thou posts here. But thats not the case. I wouldn't do it to my boat, but I appreciate the creativity, craftsmanship and dedication these guys put into it. |
Posted By: peter1234
Date Posted: May-12-2010 at 12:18pm
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thanks informative.. and def entertaining.. chris what exactly do you do . your job. projects you are working on? ------------- former skylark owner now a formula but I cant let this place go |
Posted By: storm34
Date Posted: May-12-2010 at 2:11pm
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me or 79Nautique? ------------- |
Posted By: 79nautique
Date Posted: May-12-2010 at 3:24pm
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I work at ROllS-ROYCE ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=756&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1979&yrend=1979 - 79 nautique |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: May-12-2010 at 3:38pm
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Chris,
I've been meaning to ask you if RR still uses Whitworth fasteners. I remember when I had my 1970 series III Land Rover, I ended up getting Whitworth tools from Snap-on and was told at that time RR was one of the few still using the system on their jets. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: 79nautique
Date Posted: May-12-2010 at 3:53pm
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I haven't seen anything like that, UNJ series class 3 fit is pretty much standard across the board now. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=756&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1979&yrend=1979 - 79 nautique |
Posted By: clarkebar
Date Posted: May-12-2010 at 8:29pm
| Getting back to the 81, I called and tried to buy the boat and asked for additional pictures and before he take the pictures and email them to me he sold it. I hope whomever bought it saves it and does not part it out just to get the trailer. |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: May-13-2010 at 9:21am
Chris, Sounds like you don't know about the Whitworth fasterner system. Now, no cheating and using google or wiki! However, I will allow you to ask a older coworker who knows more than you do. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: 79nautique
Date Posted: May-13-2010 at 11:02am
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wiki has it as a thread system and it isn't used on any of the stuff I work on, which is all millitary stuff and new designs not old out of date BS stuff. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=756&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1979&yrend=1979 - 79 nautique |
Posted By: Hawktique
Date Posted: May-13-2010 at 12:18pm
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I cheated, but I learned a lot. Check out this article and let me know if it's what you are referring to. http://www.boltscience.com/pages/screw3.htm - Bolt Science
"In November 1948 the Unified thread was agreed upon by the UK, the US and Canada to be used as the single standard for all countries using inch units. In 1965 the British Standards Institution issued a policy statement requesting that organisations should regard the BSW, BSF and BA threads as obsolescent. The first choice replacement for future designs was to be the ISO metric thread with the ISO inch (Unified) thread being the second choice. " Probably why in the Marines, and at Rockwell Collins, we just use/d the part number called out for and never worried about specifics. ------------- "A Veteran is someone who at one point in his life, wrote a blank check made payable to: 'The United States of America,' for an amount of 'up to, and including his life." Semper Fi |
Posted By: 79nautique
Date Posted: May-13-2010 at 1:04pm
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Rockwell Collins kinda have their own unique way of doing drawings, not a lot of consitancy most of the time. It was like what ever this person wanted is what they got. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=756&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1979&yrend=1979 - 79 nautique |
Posted By: Hawktique
Date Posted: May-13-2010 at 1:05pm
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I fight with that every day. flavor of the month. ------------- "A Veteran is someone who at one point in his life, wrote a blank check made payable to: 'The United States of America,' for an amount of 'up to, and including his life." Semper Fi |
Posted By: Hawktique
Date Posted: May-13-2010 at 1:06pm
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The drawings mostly aren't too bad, but the procedures are terrible. ------------- "A Veteran is someone who at one point in his life, wrote a blank check made payable to: 'The United States of America,' for an amount of 'up to, and including his life." Semper Fi |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: May-13-2010 at 1:11pm
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Josh,
Yes, as you found out, the Whitworth thread is based on a 55 degree thread angle and did use different thread pitches as well. The other difference is the hex head dimensions across the flats. Thet are real odd and usually in 1/64's! That's the reason for the Whitworth tools. Also interesting is the actual wrench sizing is based on the fastener diameter rather than the hex size. IE: if you have a 3/8" hex head cap screw, you pick the 3/8" wrench and not the 9/16"!! Chris, "old out of date BS stuff" are pretty strong words to use against your employer!! Of course, you've never been at a loss for words at anytime! ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: 79nautique
Date Posted: May-13-2010 at 1:39pm
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your appling hear say to what you feel is true, not a smart assumption, I've heard no mention or have ever seen anything at RR to support your hear say. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=756&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1979&yrend=1979 - 79 nautique |
Posted By: peter1234
Date Posted: May-14-2010 at 11:39am
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are you guys talking about british standard? like the old triumph motorcycles? ------------- former skylark owner now a formula but I cant let this place go |
Posted By: Hawktique
Date Posted: May-14-2010 at 11:53am
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We're talking about different bolt thread types. click on my bolt science link about 6 posts up and you'll know just as much as I do. ------------- "A Veteran is someone who at one point in his life, wrote a blank check made payable to: 'The United States of America,' for an amount of 'up to, and including his life." Semper Fi |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: May-14-2010 at 12:01pm
Peter, Yes, the BSW system. Most of what was produced in England was converted to our system during WWII for standardization. There were some in the auto, rail, motorcycle and aeronautics that held on until the late 70's. Rolls held on to the system until the mid 80's when they started to produce some newer design jets/turbines. One interesting twist to the WWII standardization is when Packard was building the Rolls Merlin engine over here. They actually re tooled and built the engines using the Whitworth system. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |