Our CCfan family!!!!
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Topic: Our CCfan family!!!!
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Subject: Our CCfan family!!!!
Date Posted: July-09-2010 at 11:35pm
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Sometimes I just can't believe how this site and the members have really interacted with my life. Yes, it truly is a family. I know of no other site like it!!
I got a very pleasant email today from Alan Arrighi (81nautique) regarding a problem I'm having with my 95 diesel Suburban. I may not have a tow vehicle to get my Atom to GL! Alan came out of the "blue" and offered me to use his Jeep Liberty!!! Yup, it wasn't even solicited! -- fantastic!!! Here's the problem that Alan does know via some emails I've been having. My truck has been "stumbling" for almost 6 months. Almost like it's getting air. New lift pump on the frame rail and new fuel supply/return lines. No difference. It will run down the road for several hundred miles and then decide to quit!! New injector pump and ECM just over a year ago. Then, it would trip the "check engine" light. Now none!! The thing has only got the OBD version #1 so no real decent data comes out of the ECM. It's been over at my diesel mechanic now since Tues. when it really "crapped" out on me, and OF COURSE, it starts and runs fine!!!  I certainly hope its' not another Injector pump!! He's putting a clear fuel line in the supply and taping it to the windshield to look for air bubbles. he's also hooking up his reader and driving it all weekend to see if maybe it stumbles and the reader picks up something???
BTW, The little Hyundaye (sp?) rent a car I'm driving doesn't have a trailer hitch on it. Damn!!!! ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
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Posted By: MartyMabe
Date Posted: July-10-2010 at 1:02am
HYUNDAI Come and get my 83 Monte Carlo SS and keep it as long as you need it. It only gets driven on a Saturday, maybe at the most! ------------- 66 Skylark http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5041" rel="nofollow - 93 SN If you're not living in NC, you're just camping out! |
Posted By: quinner
Date Posted: July-10-2010 at 4:36am
Was '95 the last year for OBD-I on the Suburban? I hope your guy gets you fixed up.
------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1143" rel="nofollow - Mi Bowt |
8122pbrainard wrote:Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: July-10-2010 at 10:22am
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i went thru the same rounds as you Pete, even pulled the turbo and rebuilt it....sometimes you have to bite the bullet..from memeory it too was a 95 ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: July-10-2010 at 3:19pm
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Eric,
The turbo is ok. I pulled the intake hose the other day and it spins great and no radial play. It's about the only thing you can do to check them. Since the stumble is just like turning the ignition key on and off rapidly (not a gradual loss of power), my diesel guy is thinking more in line with another electrical issue. If the stumble is real bad, the engine will die but if I'm rolling down the highway I can slip it in neutral and restart it. (key to "off" not required) The injector pump is running on a after market fuel driver module. Stanidyne was having nothing but problems with their early versions so the after market went in years ago. It may be a good direction to look at as there are issues with the after market units too. Ironically the firm I work for is a Stanidyne supplier of some of their stampings. We make literally tons of small metering orifices for their pumps. Every time I have a issue with my diesel, there's alway some smart ass at work that tells me the problem is due to the bad, out of tolerance reject parts we ship them!!  ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: mattsnapon1
Date Posted: July-10-2010 at 3:49pm
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I als checked out your thread on the prop bed in and found my problem in reverse prop rattle bedded in and torqued down and what a difference to bad your truck isnt a cummins I am all cummins all the time untill I decided to buy a snapon tool franchise ------------- m.r. |
Posted By: uk1979
Date Posted: July-10-2010 at 3:54pm
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Pete, Its a long shot but check out the immobilizer on the ignition and key if it has one, I have a 95 runaround had the same symptoms but gas engine.
------------- Lets have a go 56 Starflite 77 SN 78 SN 80 BFN |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: July-10-2010 at 4:06pm
Roger, here we go again with the "English to English" translation issue!  The "immobilizer" on a diesel is the fuel driver module which basically shuts down the source of the fuel shutting down the engine. The ignition key switch question did come up with my mechanic but since I only have one key on it, a problem with it was discounted. People who have lots of weight on their key chains have done damage to the ignition switch. The weight and the bumps/vibration going down the road wears out the switch contacts!
We'll have to work on some translations this weekend! ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: uk1979
Date Posted: July-10-2010 at 4:24pm
Yes but that switch and module are 15years old and I have found that late 80's 90's electrics are not as good as older parts, I know I'm going to get well chain pulled the way I speak and name things, looking forward to learn American English.  ------------- Lets have a go 56 Starflite 77 SN 78 SN 80 BFN |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: July-10-2010 at 10:45pm
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you better sharpen up on the f word ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: 81nautique
Date Posted: July-10-2010 at 10:48pm
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2 countries separated by a common language!! LOL ------------- You can’t change the wind but you can adjust your sails |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: July-10-2010 at 11:20pm
Come on Eric - "F" word as in Ford????? Tom (horkn) would love you to say it!! I still have confidence in the GM product I'm driving. Now, if he finds the problem and get's it back to me fixed by this Thursday is a different story!! BTW, you do know it's the "Hummer" 5.7 engine I'm dealing with!!------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: harddock
Date Posted: July-10-2010 at 11:36pm
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Ford ownership concept is pretty simple. Buy a Ford, own it until the warranty is about to run out and trade it for another Ford. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=4487" rel="nofollow - 1998 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: July-11-2010 at 12:13am
So you and Tom agree on the "ford" concept?? ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: July-11-2010 at 10:32am
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I really want to get my hands on a newer Lincoln, the wife needs a car and a guy was in financial ruins and wanted to dump his Camry cheap...I just couldnt the trigger.. ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: harddock
Date Posted: July-11-2010 at 3:19pm
There is one more aspect for me. I can literally walk to the dealer, have known the family for years, and plow parts in stock. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=4487" rel="nofollow - 1998 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: July-11-2010 at 3:40pm
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if you buy a Tundra over one of those bad ass looking fords. they are a nice looking truck ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: harddock
Date Posted: July-11-2010 at 4:29pm
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Tundra is not a real truck. it is a Toy! ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=4487" rel="nofollow - 1998 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: GottaSki
Date Posted: July-11-2010 at 5:42pm
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Pete i was a diehard fan of GM diesels, had four of them over the years.
Two years gone and i'm still afraid to add up all the receipts on the '96. Too bad you have an automatic and need the computer, else just throw a '93 DB4 mechanical pump and spring wastegate and drive the eff out of it. Those engine were fabulous when they were 2-wire engines, but '94 up just too fragile of engine management and injection systems. All it takes a bit of debri on the optical encoder and bam, new pump time. Big monkey off your back when you finally let that one go, big relieve not dreading the SES light or sudden loss of all power, steering and brakes. I know, they run great when they run, and not everybody needs a 400hp monster that appears to be the only alternative now. But we'll talk you down....let it goo..... ------------- "There is nothing, absolutely nothing, half so much worthwhile as messing around with boats...simply messing." River Rat to Mole |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: July-11-2010 at 7:24pm
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Tom,
I'd love a new Suburban but it's not in the cards at this point. I don't need a $500 - $600 a month car loan at this point. With the economy and me doing the shop up north (BTW good time to build - good deals out there) its' not something I want to undertake. Yes, it is too bad that the computer runs the automatic!! I'd go for the mechanical pump real fast. My diesel mechanic would too!!! Any feedback on how the Duramax is holding up? I've heard pretty decent. There were some rumors floating that GM was toying with the idea of sticking them in the Suburbans but with the same trans (largest trans they make) I have in mine. The Allison won't fit. I understand they get the Allison in the HD's by using a frame to body lift and I've noticed that - the HD's are a couple inches higher. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: Randy_in_Ohio
Date Posted: July-11-2010 at 7:53pm
Have you driven an 07 or later Tundra with the 5.7L Engine and six speed transmission? Looks like Toyota wants to get into the diesel market too. They have been talking about this since for a few years. I think the problem is getting the emissions in check and finding a market in this economy. http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/2008/05/28/45l-diesel-tundra-confirmed-bigger-diesel-coming/ - 4.5l-diesel-tundra-confirmed-bigger-diesel-coming Pete- I'm glad you were able to find a tow vehicle to pull that beautiful Atom to GL, I'm really looking forward to seeing that one. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1602&yrstart=1991&yrend=1995" rel="nofollow - 1993 Sport Nautique |
Posted By: harddock
Date Posted: July-11-2010 at 8:37pm
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No, sorry, I bought my PSD F250 and never looked back. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=4487" rel="nofollow - 1998 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: quinner
Date Posted: July-12-2010 at 3:47am
Yes and it totally reminded me of a Moped, and you know what they say about Mopeds, they are like Fat Chicks, Fun to ride as long as your friends don't catch you on one!! ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1143" rel="nofollow - Mi Bowt |
Posted By: Randy_in_Ohio
Date Posted: July-12-2010 at 1:08pm
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And we all know you have rode your share of "Mopeds" Chris. I don't believe you, because a moped is the last thing I would compare the Tundra to. The Tundra will reach 60MPH in 6 seconds and run the 1/4 mile in 14.6 seconds. Not bad for a 5,600 lb. vehicle. I smoke Fords and Chevy's all the time on my commute to and from work.  ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1602&yrstart=1991&yrend=1995" rel="nofollow - 1993 Sport Nautique |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: July-12-2010 at 1:15pm
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ricetane booster ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: weitekampt
Date Posted: July-12-2010 at 1:29pm
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I had a couple thoughts, but you have probably already gone over it.
I know algae will grow in diesel tanks if fuel sits for any amount of time. I have never had a problem, but I put a ton of miles on. I have heard of people getting the pick up tubes plugged from algae and debris from years of use. This fuel is a lot different compared to just a few years ago. Not a fun job to drop the tank, but may be worth checking out. The other is a cam position sensor. I know on PowerStrokes they will kill the engine while driving or sometimes just won't start. When mine died, my tach wouldn't read and revs while cranking. Replaces CPS and away we went for years. It can be a spuratic problem or it will just leave you dead on the road. I am not a chevy 6.5 guru, but I thought I would throw in my $.02 worth. Hey Randy, our boats won't win the speed race on the lake, but if you want to race that rice burner against the oil burner....lets play! I'll even leave my boat hooked up! Just knockin you around a bit! ------------- 1993 SkiNautique ProTec 2009 Boatmate trailer. 1240 hours on meter. http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1559&sort=&pagenum=2&yrstart=1991&yrend=1995 - 1993 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: Randy_in_Ohio
Date Posted: July-12-2010 at 3:13pm
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I learn something every time I visit this site... never would have thought algae would grow in diesel!
I'm in Todd! Just filled up with some high octane rice, let's go! Looking forward to seeing you again this week. Can't wait to get there, I need a change of scenery real bad! ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1602&yrstart=1991&yrend=1995" rel="nofollow - 1993 Sport Nautique |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: July-12-2010 at 3:42pm
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I just got a call from my diesel mechanic. He's the third mechanic who's worked on the problem and of course he can't get it to act up ether!!! Plus, no codes are showing up on his reader. He's also the one who put the new injector pump and ECM in it about 14 months ago. What he is going to try is to disconnect the fuel driver module that came with the new pump and hook it up to the old remote mounted module that's still on the engine from a previous repair. It was still good when the injector pump was replaced. It may then give him some idea of a direction to head. I sure hope so!! His only other choice would be the new pump route again. So, for now it's back in the truck and out of the Hyundia. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: July-12-2010 at 5:02pm
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Todd,
The algae issue was discounted along with the fuel lines sucking air someplace. What he does is tie in a piece of clear fuel line and tapes it to the winshield. Then he can monitor the fuel while driving. No bubbles!! He really didn't think it was a air issue anyway. He said if it was, then the engine would lose power gradually. This stutter is just like turning the key on and off rapidly. Sometimes even staying running. Other times when it has completely died but a shift to neutral and then a restart. It's also a daily user so it gets fresh fuel every couple of weeks. (42 gal. tank) Thanks for the idea though. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: July-22-2010 at 4:17pm
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For those who may be curious and may not know, I made it to GL, back and have been driving the diesel all week without a issue. To recap what my diesel guy did, he disconnected the 14 month old fuel solenoid driver that came with the injector pump at that time and plugged into a remote mounted unit that was still on the truck from a previous repair. Stanadyne has had nothing but problems with these things. The 14 month old unit wasn't their latest and greatest improved version. The latest is encapsulated in a softer compound and won't crack when subjected to the heat down in the valley plus they went to gold plated contacts on the harness and module. He told me to drive it connected to the remote module and call him next week. Then he'll put the latest updated one in. He hasn't had a failure yet with the new Stanadyne version but has had the remote aftermakets units go on him. Then I'll be able to get another 100K out of it!! ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: homebuiltburner
Date Posted: July-22-2010 at 8:54pm
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I am a diesel mechanic by day (correct craft repairmen by nite) and it sounds to me like your mechanic is headed in the right direction. While I haven't worked on the 6.5s for awhile it seems like he must know what his doing. All the steps are the sme ones I would have taken. We live about 20 miles from GL and still didn't get there this year. On fri. I was actually by Big Green and meet some of the ccs headed there that was a tough one as I was on a work trip that I couldn't get away from. Hope you burb is running better. ------------- Never cook bacon with your shirt off!! 66 Mustang |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: July-23-2010 at 9:53am
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Pete, picked up an 02, TDI Volkswagon yesterday, 92k on the mileage.
i have to put the head on....i believe 47 mpg, i cant imagine going to work and back on a gallon and a half of fuel...15 hundies, ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: July-23-2010 at 10:18am
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Tom,
Thanks for the words of encouragement. Yes, I do believe my diesel guy has been around the block several times with the 6.5's!!! I actually think he's developed a close relationship with the people at Stanadyne!!
Make sure you plan ahead next year for GL. We'd love to have you join us. Eric, Sounds like you're going into economy mode big time. What's up with the head? ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: July-23-2010 at 10:34am
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belt snapped, apparently probably bent the valves....the guy sent the head out already and is wrapped in plastic....he pulled the engine to do the repair and i guess it seems like he is clueless on assembly.
a good friend of mine is a 30 year VW mechanic on fresh retirement and the days he spends at home with the wife must be miserable because he wants to get out and stay busy...I'll probably let him loose on it and he has all the special tools...if not, I'll buzz it together when i get a chance... i do have a golf, it just hit 190,000 i do alot of my service work out of it, with 190 on it I still find myself driving it daily at 90 mph back and forth with one finger on the steering wheel...I always wonder why i fly by cars that look like they are sitting still ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: July-23-2010 at 10:36am
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as always Pete, if i buy new....its domestic..
I never could pass a good deal on a car, I paid 500 for the golf from a cracker...I guess I prey on ones misery ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: July-23-2010 at 10:39am
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remember back when I snapped the belt on the Passat? I sent those bent valves to somebody on the site, I wonder what they ever did with them? ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: Fibersport
Date Posted: July-23-2010 at 10:43am
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I read some of the thread here to know of your Suburban problem. My dad has a 96 GMC Suburban that would occasionally die on him, then usually start right up and go for miles without a problem. When he took it in for an emmisions test it failed even though there was no check engine light illuminated. After thinking it was the ignition switch harness, computer, plugs etc. I finally figured out the problem. Turns out it was corrosion between the two positive battery cables at the battery. One cable runs to the starter and the other to the power distribution center, a build up of corrosion between them would give an intermittent voltage drop, it would also erase the test codes from the computers memory which then caused it to fail the emmission test. Pretty strange problem as you could not see any corrosion, check your cables and maybe that will be the problem. Good Luck -
Fibersport aka Greg |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: July-23-2010 at 12:01pm
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Greg,
Thanks for the suggestion but you really can't compare a diesel to a gas. My doubled up cable at the one battery is for cranking and there isn't a smaller wire going to a distribution point from that battery terminal. As mentioned, I did a repair to it with a bolt on cable end (with both 2/0 cables under one clamp!!!!) I'll see how long it lasts?? If it doesn't, I'll need to do some serious cable work with new lugs/terminals. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: horkn
Date Posted: July-23-2010 at 2:53pm
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The F word. LOL
Pete, did you get your diesel fixed? I hope so, becasue car issues are nothing fun. My farming cousins and uncles all used to swear by GM's. Then they got the 6.whateverl v8 GM diesel bug and those trucks always let them down. One cousin that is into the tractor pull deal ended up getting a PSD ford. Isuzu finally fixed GM's issues of not being able to make a good diesel by throwing an isuzu in the GM' trucks and calling it "duramax". Some red white and blue die hards still are not aware that the duramax is a jap crap motor. LOL I like my yota's too. Nothing toy like on them at all. We have 92k of totally trouble free towing and other abuse on our 04 4.7 v8 4runner. Heck, in the 80's, their axles and transfer cases were built better than many full size domestic HD trucks were. And these parts were on compact pick ups. ------------- 78 martinique- refloored, reinforced, stringers re glassed, re engineered interior GT40P heads Edelbrock Performer intake acme 4 blade http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v64/horkn/fish/nautique.jpg |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: July-23-2010 at 3:01pm
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towguy just droped the TDI, i asked if a hoopdie owned it, yep, the only reason i knew was from sitting in the front seat....they dont take care of thier cars...and it smelled like one..
is that being racist or just stating facts? ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: July-23-2010 at 3:54pm
Tom, It's all spelled out on what's going on in this thread. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: thatdude596
Date Posted: July-24-2010 at 5:23pm
| mopar |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: July-24-2010 at 6:29pm
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596, you spelled that wrong.....nopower ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |