Hull Maintenance
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Category: Repairs and Maintenance
Forum Name: Boat Maintenance
Forum Discription: Discuss maintenance of your Correct Craft
URL: http://www.CorrectCraftFan.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=19599
Printed Date: November-20-2024 at 12:41pm
Topic: Hull Maintenance
Posted By: blammie
Subject: Hull Maintenance
Date Posted: September-28-2010 at 9:32pm
| I have a 1968 Barracuda. Boat is in very good condition, but does have some spider cracking on the gel coat- mostly below water line. I mostly trailer boat, but left in water about two weeks this summer. I ended up with considerable algea and crud on the hull. I would like to leave in water next year but am concerned about the crud. I am cosidering bottom paint, but would like advice and opinions as to whether I should do this. Most ski boats I see don't have it. Question is, should I paint botton? (I will likely use Interlux VC-17.) Should I barrier coat to seal gel coat first? Does this effect future restoration, or have an impact on marketability? Is there a better way to protect bottom? |
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Posted By: Ranger
Date Posted: September-28-2010 at 9:44pm
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I wouldn't bottom paint a trailerable boat. If you do paint the bottom and ultimately put the boat back on a trailer, the quality of the paint quickly deteriorates. If you are concerned about leaving it in the water, either clean it very regularly or invest in a bottom liner. A bottom liner is a vinyl pool that you pull into, pull up the rear panel and then drop some chlorine in the isolated pool. Your bottom will remain clean.
Jeff |
Posted By: Waterdog
Date Posted: September-28-2010 at 10:35pm
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Bottom paint is easy to put on, hard to take off. I would'nt put it on a "small" ski boat. ------------- - waterdog - http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=3896&sort=&pagenum=2&yrstart=1978&yrend=1978" rel="nofollow - 78 Ski Tique |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: September-28-2010 at 10:38pm
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Brett,
Have you been spending too much time in the Overtons catalog or reading so called advice from the West "advisor"!!  
First, welcome to CCfan! We'd love to see some pictures. You have a very classic boat and hopefully you can keep it that way. Bottom painting isn't going to do that. I highly recommend you do not do anything to the bottom. Get it out on the trailer if you don't have a spot for a lift. Besides the bottom getting dirty, the other big problem is hull blistering. Even with a barrier coating, I sure wouldn't take the chance. We have all see early CC glass hull with blistering to the point where the gel must be ground down all the way to the glass. When you get a chance, get some pictures as well as some text submitted for the diaries. There's a application icon to click on in that section. BTW, if you have been reading the "West Advisor" on bottom coatings, watch out. I've had a very bad experience dealing with their so called advice and consequently will never deal or walk into a West marine store again unless I have absolutely no other choice and want then to stick it to me with their pricing!!!! ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: September-29-2010 at 11:30am
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Like they said, dont paint it. If you smooth the bottom out (wetsand and buff as necessary) and keep a good coat of wax on the hull, that waterline scum will wipe off easily. I would not be concerned about leaving the boat in the water for 2 weeks a year. ------------- |
Posted By: blammie
Date Posted: September-29-2010 at 2:03pm
| Ok I posted some pics of my boat in the diaries section. One look and you will understand why I am floating the question out here. 1968 and all original. I want to preserve the boat, but I also want to use it. Ok, you guys have talked me right out of a bunch of work. I will take TRBenj's advice and use wax. One thing is certain though, the foot pedal gas will be swapped for a decent Morse control for next year. I don't know what they were thinking. What a PIA. |
Posted By: jayc
Date Posted: September-29-2010 at 3:07pm
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I bottom painted my Tique this year. If you want to leave the boat moored for long periods without having to continually clean it then it's the way to go.
That said when it's out of the water it does detract from the look. I chose white antifoul and when in the water you can't tell. ------------- 1982 Nautique 2001 - 351W Dual Fuel 1982 Ski Tique - 351W Dual fuel 1996 Maxum 210ss -350 EFI Dual Fuel |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: September-29-2010 at 7:16pm
Brett, I'm looking forward to seeing the pictures. It may take a couple days for Keith to get it up in that section. Tim, I still suggest keeping the hull out of the water. The two weeks concerns me. Charlie's (Brady) 69? - 70? Cuda is solid blisters from the waterline down. It's so bad it's going to need a all the gel stripped down to glass repair. It's one of the "mystery" hulls that never sat in the water more than a day while others that sat for long times never got the blisters. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
blammie wrote:Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: September-29-2010 at 7:26pm
For 2 weeks a year, Pete? Geez, thats pretty extreme. With extensive cracking below the waterline, it sounds like the damage is already done. Its either blistered by now or its not going to! Even if it does, is that a major concern? With the proper wetsanding and buffing, cracks and blisters can be made much more difficult to see... our BFN is well blistered and my sister's Mustang has the cracks. My Skier is one of the lucky ones and despite sitting in the water all season for 20+ years doesnt have a crack or blister to show from it. Either way, it wouldnt stop me from leaving my boat in the water during my vacation. Of course, much beyond that and Id recommend a lift. ------------- |
Posted By: blammie
Date Posted: September-29-2010 at 8:59pm
| Ok, Let me turn the discussion toward trailers for a moment. I think we are all on the same page for the most part. Letting a boat without proper barrier coat and bottom paint is a bad idea. And we are all averse to changing our classic boats to much. My original though was coat botton and dock at a local marina by the good ski cut. This would be convenient for a quick evening run, but so would an easily trailerable boat. Problem is my trailer sucks. I never tried to trailer a mastercract, but they look pretty easy. Drive right up on it. So, question is, am I correct about the mastercraft (or newer Correct Crafts for that matter), and can I build one to fit my Barracuda, and if so what trailer should I start mods on? Or can I use another ski boat trailer without modification, and which one would be best? Did I mention that I really hate my trailer? |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: September-29-2010 at 9:30pm
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Brett,
Pretty much any wishbone style trailer of the proper length will work for the 60's - 70's hulls since their shape is so close. I have a MC trailer for my Dunphy X55. I've had a friend Charlie (Brady) use my Tique trailer fro winter storage when his boat house was being moved and re piled. What's wrong with the M/C trailer? All I did to mine was build a new bow stop, add a keel roller and a winch. It's a fantastic trailer that works very well. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: September-29-2010 at 9:32pm
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Sounds like he might not have an original CC trailer? All the ones Ive used (late 60's on up) have been very user friendly. ------------- |
Posted By: saffer
Date Posted: October-01-2010 at 6:41am
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is it advisable to add a keel roller to a nautique trailer? does it make any difference? ------------- If you can't be rich, you gotta be clever!  Wonder if I'm either right now.
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Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: October-01-2010 at 8:12am
I installed one on one of my trailers for two reasons. The bow of the boat bouncing on the trailer going down the road was chafing the bow stop and the other was to aid in winch loading the boat on the trailer. It worked out very well stopping the bouncing and getting the bow up as the boat is being winched on. One other trailer was set up the same way but the 3rd trailer is still on the "to do" list. There are a couple treads on the subject regarding keel rollers where others confirm the same results. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: October-01-2010 at 8:38am
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alot depends on water quality, it seems that boats up here in Ohio that sit in Lake Erie are easier to clean the bottems than the boats that sit in the local lake, alot of fertilizers are dumped into our lake and the lake does not rejuvenate as quickly as Lake Erie.
if you leave a boat sit in our lake for extended periods, its stained for life just short of wet sanding and buffing...so really I personally think water quality could be an issue factored in also ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: October-01-2010 at 8:43am
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needed to say, vc17 is a common bottem paint, good for tugs and fishing boats. there are other products that contain teflon and go on as if they were invisible and to match the bottem if thats the route you choose....personally the vc goes on heavy and slows the boat...but so does algae
If i opted to paint the bottem i would go with the pricey teflons available....but then again I wouldnt keep the boat in the water, thats me though ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: saffer
Date Posted: October-01-2010 at 7:06pm
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Thanks brainard, any pics of where you mount it? ------------- If you can't be rich, you gotta be clever! Wonder if I'm either right now.
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Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: October-01-2010 at 7:41pm
Here's one:
 ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: saffer
Date Posted: October-01-2010 at 9:08pm
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awesome, thank you- so i remove the front stop? ------------- If you can't be rich, you gotta be clever! Wonder if I'm either right now.
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Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: October-01-2010 at 11:22pm
No, the stop is still there but may be hard to see in the picture. It's the two vertical pipes type stop. It's got black hose on the upper portion. I'll see if I can adjust the contrast and re post it. EDIT: Take a look at the picture again. I lightened it up so you can see the bow stop better. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |