fake-a-lake
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Printed Date: March-04-2025 at 12:12am
Topic: fake-a-lake
Posted By: bhectus
Subject: fake-a-lake
Date Posted: October-30-2010 at 11:54pm
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I bought one from West Marine and went to try it out this morning before heading to the lake but the plunger is not big enough to fit over the entire indentation where the pick-up is and so I didn't want to use it because it didn't look like I would get a proper seal. The plunger looks like a standard size, what are you all using? ------------- '02 Ski Nautique 196 w/ 5.7 Apex bowtie - Sold '87 Barefoot - sold '97 Super Sport Nautique - originally custom built for Walt Meloon '97 Ski Nautique '83 SN 2001 |
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Posted By: jimsport93
Date Posted: October-31-2010 at 12:36am
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I bought a fake a lake, used it once. Could not trust it to stay in place. Now I just run the garden hose into the boat (get an on-off shut off fitting for the end of the hose). Unhook the raw water intake hose from the thru hull water intake and and stick the garden hose into the water intake hose and clamp it tight. I try not to give it too much water pressure. Actually did that today to winterize the boat.
Others will use a garden hose to suck water out of a five gallon bucket supplied by a garden hose. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=2798 - 93 Sport Nautique |
Posted By: NAUTI84
Date Posted: November-01-2010 at 3:36pm
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I always removed the intake hose and used a peice of HD clear tubing (1 1/4 dia.?) into a 30 gallon trash barrell.
I'd fill the barrell and leave the hose running. My boat would still drain the barrell faster than the garden hose could keep up. That's why I never trusted any other method. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=421&yrstart=1981&yrend=1985 - EX-NAUTI84 |
Posted By: Waterdog
Date Posted: November-01-2010 at 4:22pm
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My fake-a-lake dosen't fit the hull fitting at all and water goes all over the place but when I start the boat almost all water runs into the pick-up and out the exhaust. ------------- - waterdog - http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=3896&sort=&pagenum=2&yrstart=1978&yrend=1978" rel="nofollow - 78 Ski Tique |
Posted By: PAPA
Date Posted: November-01-2010 at 4:26pm
I totally agree; I will drain a full 5 gallon bucket in a minute or so with the garden hose in it running wide open with the engine at idle. It will also let you know if your pump and impeller are working. |
NAUTI84 wrote:Posted By: SNobsessed
Date Posted: November-02-2010 at 12:17am
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TRBenj has a flush hookup design that you can install for under $15.
Best $15 I spent last year. I'll try to find the link, but I bet Tim beats me to it! ------------- “Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.” Ben Franklin |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: November-02-2010 at 1:04am
You'll have him beat Chris,I don't think he's on here if he's not at work,only then does he have the time  ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: SNobsessed
Date Posted: November-02-2010 at 10:57am
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Only have a few minutes before work & didn't find the original post with pics.
But here is a later description of the hardware from Tim: Just put a tee into the waterline. You can get the parts for $15 from Lowes. They sell a 1"x1"x1/2" (hose barb x hose barb x female npt) tee, then get a 1/2" male NPT to female GHT (garden hose thread) adapter, and add a GHT valve. Add a couple hose clamps and youre in business. ------------- “Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.” Ben Franklin |
Posted By: jayc
Date Posted: November-02-2010 at 11:41am
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I just stick the garden hose in the raw water hose (after pulling it off the intake) and let it run. Never bother with clamping it tight.
I've done it this way with dozens of boats for many years (I run saltwater so flush after every trip to the beach). I can probably do this as quick as anyone who has to crawl under their boat and stick the fake a lake on. Although it's not needed on the Tique as that has a flush kit installed on the stern. ------------- 1982 Nautique 2001 - 351W Dual Fuel 1982 Ski Tique - 351W Dual fuel 1996 Maxum 210ss -350 EFI Dual Fuel |
Posted By: bhectus
Date Posted: November-02-2010 at 1:14pm
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Thanks for the input guys. I think I'll stop by the local Amazon Hose and get some fittings. The raw water hose is 1" size? I need to be sure so I get the correct bxbxnpt brass tee from them. I will have a 1/2" mip x 3/4" mht hose adapter at my work, along w/the clamps. ------------- '02 Ski Nautique 196 w/ 5.7 Apex bowtie - Sold '87 Barefoot - sold '97 Super Sport Nautique - originally custom built for Walt Meloon '97 Ski Nautique '83 SN 2001 |
Posted By: Jeff N
Date Posted: October-24-2013 at 12:24am
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SN, Do you have a picture of what you rigged up that you can show me. I was going to buy a "Fake A Lake" but it sounds like you have a better solution. I'm not overly mechanical so a picture would be very helpful. Thanks, Jeff N ------------- Jeff N 05 - 206 89 - 2001 |
Posted By: 74Wind
Date Posted: October-24-2013 at 12:51am
Bought a West Marine fake-a-lake when we went to check out the Southwind before we bought it, because I knew we wouldn't be able to lake-test it. Same problem, was not at all a fit. My wife crawled underneath to hold it to the intake...turned on the hose and water sprayed all over the place but it worked well enough to fire it up and run for a bit. She crawled back out and said "Buy It!"   ------------- 1974 Southwind 18 1975 Century Mark II |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: October-24-2013 at 1:33am
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I just pull the hose off my thru hull and connect it to my bucket. That way I can see if the pump is working. To winterize I just fill the bucket with antifreeze  ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: 75 Tique
Date Posted: October-24-2013 at 10:40am
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Posted By: Jeff N
Date Posted: October-24-2013 at 11:34am
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Thanks guys. ------------- Jeff N 05 - 206 89 - 2001 |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: October-24-2013 at 11:44am
| I think Fake a Lakes are the quickest and easiest way to run your boat in the driveway. I either replace the impellers on a schedule or inspect them and don't see the need to run a bucket to see if they work. |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: October-24-2013 at 11:45am
| I agree with your assessment of the bucket, Bruce- its only useful if you are troubleshooting a cooling problem, IMHO. Otherwise, its just cumbersome. I dont like the fake-a-lake either though- the tee is much easier. |
Posted By: phatsat67
Date Posted: October-24-2013 at 11:50am
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Call me cheap, I just take the hose off of the hull water inlet stuff the hose in the end tighten clamp and turn her on. (it's easy enough to remove that on the 2001 hull with no disassembly others may not be). At the shop we have ends on our hoses with little water valves. We have a 1 inch hose clamped to that and we just remove the inlet side of the trans coolers and stuff/clamp that hose on there. The valve is nice because you don't need to jump out of the boat to turn the water on. We tend to use the bucket method here because the pressurized water gets us in trouble and hides cooling issue. ------------- |
Posted By: JPASS
Date Posted: October-24-2013 at 2:01pm
Our '92 came with a hose hookup on the rear of the boat. I don't believe it gets much easier than that to run it in the driveway. Just screw the hose in and your done. No water in the boat either. ------------- '92 Correctcraft Ski Nautique |
Posted By: FamilyManCCF
Date Posted: January-07-2016 at 4:22pm
I have a 1998 Nautique Super Sport with a GT40 and I am going to be installing one of the DYI flush kit hook ups. Here is what I have: The "T" has (2) 1" hose barbs and 3/4" thread. The female hose adapter is 3/4" MIP male thread to 3/4" Female Hose Thread.  Shut off valve closed.  Shut off valve opened. My question for Tim and anyone else that has used this set up, is the open on the shut off valve large enough? It seems rather small. I just want to make sure I will have enough volume of water flowing through the valve. |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: January-07-2016 at 4:30pm
| Yup, you're good... Your parts are identical to the ones I use. |
Posted By: FamilyManCCF
Date Posted: January-07-2016 at 4:35pm
| Thanks Tim! |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: January-07-2016 at 5:32pm
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Andrew, Yes, Tim is correct plus he's the inventor! You are forgetting the pressure of the hose is more than enough to overcome the CV value of the reduced port ball valve giving you the needed GPM. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: sailsail
Date Posted: January-07-2016 at 5:59pm
Same here |
Posted By: FamilyManCCF
Date Posted: January-07-2016 at 6:22pm
Thanks, Pete! That makes sense. The eye test just left me with a feeling that the opening seemed to small. The members on this site have a wealth of knowledge! |
Posted By: Ga Sportsman
Date Posted: January-07-2016 at 9:44pm
I would like to rig this up on my 79 Nautique.... is the water pickup house 1" on it? |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: January-07-2016 at 10:36pm
The hose size depends on what engine is in the boat. It's best you measure. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: Ga Sportsman
Date Posted: January-07-2016 at 10:43pm
Gotcha...it has 351 commander if that helps |
Posted By: rmaytee
Date Posted: March-06-2016 at 6:20pm
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Where are you guys getting these parts to add the T valve? ------------- Y2K SAN |
Posted By: LeftFieldEngineering
Date Posted: March-06-2016 at 9:01pm
| I got my parts at ace hardware. |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: March-06-2016 at 9:29pm
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+1 Ace is the only place that I have been able to find the T consistently. Home Depot and Lowes have the rest ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: Blamey
Date Posted: March-06-2016 at 10:32pm
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I think I found it http://www.supplyhouse.com/Spears-1402-131-1-x-1-x-3-4-PVC-Barbed-Insert-Reducing-Tee-Insert-x-Insert-x-FIPT" rel="nofollow - here ------------- 96 Super Sport Previously: 95 Sport Nautique, 1980 Ski Supreme |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: March-06-2016 at 10:39pm
Paul, Your link is bad. I try to make a habit of using the preview feature and checking my links. I've goofed some up too! ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: Blamey
Date Posted: March-06-2016 at 11:38pm
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Thanks Pete, the link should work now. tried doing it from my phone before. ------------- 96 Super Sport Previously: 95 Sport Nautique, 1980 Ski Supreme |
Posted By: tryathlete
Date Posted: March-07-2016 at 2:25am
| I use a sheet of lexan or pvc to make the fake-a-lake seal to the hull. The tension from the fake-a-lake seals the PVC AND makes most of the water go into the hull pickup. It's so easy and no fitting to leak or blow out inside the boat down the road. |
Posted By: FamilyManCCF
Date Posted: March-07-2016 at 2:58pm
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Quote: Where are you guys getting these parts to add the T valve? Tim I got my parts at Lowe's. The T and the adapter in the plumbing department and the shut off valve in the lawn and garden department. |
Posted By: rmaytee
Date Posted: March-07-2016 at 3:00pm
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Awesome! Thanks Family Man. Lowe's is much more convenient for me. Looking forward to getting this hooked up so I can run the boat and figure out what my fuel leak is. ------------- Y2K SAN |
Posted By: rmaytee
Date Posted: May-09-2016 at 6:23pm
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I got all my parts. I'm curious where i should position the valve. I assume in a section close to the hull, so it will still go through the filter before entering the engine? ------------- Y2K SAN |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: May-09-2016 at 6:42pm
Tim, The picture on the first page is a good example. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: GMacLaren
Date Posted: May-09-2016 at 8:00pm
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Here's my design for a "fake-a-lake" rip-off: (However I much prefer the bucket-in-the-boat solution, and I'm uncomfortable feeding the boat's cooling system with household pressure -- yes, I do have a regulator on house water system, but . . . )  ------------- -=Grant MacLaren=- Retired Expert http://www.grantmaclaren.com/72skier" rel="nofollow - http://www.grantmaclaren.com/72skier |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: May-09-2016 at 9:39pm
Grant, What makes you feel uncomfortable? The typical municipal or private well system is between 40 and 50 psi. Is your pressure higher than that? You say you have a regulator on the supply. What do you have it set at? ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: SNobsessed
Date Posted: May-09-2016 at 10:22pm
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With the TRBenj-tee, there is no pressure on the RWP. The intake grate is still open. ------------- “Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.” Ben Franklin |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: May-09-2016 at 10:55pm
Grant, The "Timmy-T" is a great addition. Consider installing one. I can see why you don't want the pressure from the hose to affect all the testing you are doing with you cooling system but under normal conditions the pressure won't damage anything. However what some have found is the pressure will mask a bad RWP impeller or leaks that when on the water will suck air. That's certainly anther reason the "Timmy-T" is great. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: FamilyManCCF
Date Posted: May-10-2016 at 10:30am
| I installed a Timmy-T on my boat this year and it worked great! It sure beat the bucket method! |
Posted By: bb12
Date Posted: May-10-2016 at 6:42pm
| When you cut the hose to put the "T" in, do you cut some of the hose out or just slide the "T" in between where you cut? |
Posted By: rmaytee
Date Posted: May-10-2016 at 6:43pm
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I just made one slice, and it worked fine. ------------- Y2K SAN |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: May-10-2016 at 7:17pm
I guess it matters on how your original installation is. I wanted to keep the strainer level so I cut out a piece. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: May-10-2016 at 7:23pm
| i have zero motivation to crawl under the boat and wedge a plunger against the hull |
Posted By: quinner
Date Posted: May-11-2016 at 10:11am
Only to have it fall off when someone climbs in/out or the simple fact you can't see it down there. No thanks ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1143" rel="nofollow - Mi Bowt |
Posted By: bb12
Date Posted: May-12-2016 at 1:09am
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Got my "Timmy-T" installed tonight! Tech tip: Put a little dish soap on the T barbs before attempting to slide them into the hose.   
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Posted By: FredWSauer
Date Posted: May-12-2016 at 1:15am
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I would suggest a cap on the hose input. If for some strange thing of fate the valve gets knocked open a bit you might loose suction and pull air into the system. ------------- - FWS 1993 Ski Nautique 1978 Glastron T-160 1994 Weeres Pontoon - Wife's Boat |
Posted By: bb12
Date Posted: May-12-2016 at 10:26am
| Will do- Good idea. |
Posted By: frydaddy
Date Posted: May-12-2016 at 5:15pm
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I went to the hardware store and found all the parts. In the store the 3/4" MIP (pipe) and the 3/4" MPT (hose) did not thread together well. My tee would be at the bottom of the boat, so I got a bit nervous. Chris ------------- Frydaddy |
Posted By: frydaddy
Date Posted: May-12-2016 at 5:18pm
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Correction 3/4" GHT (garden hose thread) Chris ------------- Frydaddy |
Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: May-12-2016 at 5:18pm
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Garden Hose Thread is 3/4" GHT Above bb12 has a MIP to GHT bushing |
Posted By: bhectus
Date Posted: May-12-2016 at 5:38pm
It sure is special seeing posts of mine from 2010 finding their way to the top still.  XOXO. ------------- '02 Ski Nautique 196 w/ 5.7 Apex bowtie - Sold '87 Barefoot - sold '97 Super Sport Nautique - originally custom built for Walt Meloon '97 Ski Nautique '83 SN 2001 |
Posted By: FredWSauer
Date Posted: May-23-2016 at 11:30pm
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I built that yesterday Ace Hardware and put it in today. Works great. Thanks. ------------- - FWS 1993 Ski Nautique 1978 Glastron T-160 1994 Weeres Pontoon - Wife's Boat |
Posted By: tjs1295
Date Posted: May-24-2016 at 2:17pm
| Could you attach a garden hose and still do the bucket method with this, or do you need water pressure? I'm asking because I have a tough time getting the hose from the through hull fitting into the bucket. It's always a wrestling match. I like the bucket method, and this would make it much easier. |
Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: May-24-2016 at 2:20pm
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You cannot simply put a hose into a bucket. The RWP will pull air before water. You can put a shut off on the intake grate side, then the RWP will be forced to pull only the water in the bucket. HOWEVER, this will likely result in an overheat on day when you go to put the boat in the lake and forget to open the shutoff. |
Posted By: bb12
Date Posted: May-24-2016 at 2:33pm
| The "T" in the intake hose makes it much easier and convenient to run your boat out of water...and its safe...And no messing with buckets and disconnecting the hose at the raw water pickup. |
Posted By: tjs1295
Date Posted: May-24-2016 at 2:43pm
| YES!! Thanks Hollywood. I see what you're saying, makes perfect sense. I also see your point bb12. I just like making sure the rwp & impeller are working correctly, and not sucking air. |
Posted By: bb12
Date Posted: May-24-2016 at 3:46pm
The bucket method is ultimately best for testing the RWP, but you can get a pretty good idea if your pump is working properly with the T method as well. |
Posted By: tjs1295
Date Posted: May-24-2016 at 5:19pm
| I agree. I will most likely put in a "T". It is pretty slick. |
Posted By: Greg_SA
Date Posted: September-20-2021 at 3:19am
In this setup, when connected to the hose, doesn't water just pour out of the pickup under the boat? ------------- 1989 Ski Nautique (SN2001) |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: September-20-2021 at 8:19am
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The "Timmy Tee" works. Yes, you get water out the through hull but the RWP sucks what it needs. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |