swim platform repair
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Printed Date: November-13-2024 at 9:40pm
Topic: swim platform repair
Posted By: kapla
Subject: swim platform repair
Date Posted: January-30-2011 at 10:57pm
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After a stupid manounver I managed to hit the platform against a dock and ripped 3 boards out..I was able to rescue some of the chuncks..What i a## I am...problem is that it will take me more time to find the adequate wood and shape it that the cost of the repair itself..teak is hard to find here..so I might end up looking for alternate wood..hope to find something the closest in colour to the teak...
I will post some pict tomorrow..I'm mad with myself!!!  ------------- <a href="">1992 ski nautique |
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Posted By: OverMyHead
Date Posted: January-30-2011 at 11:44pm
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Bummer! ------------- For thousands of years men have felt the irresistible urge to go to sea, and many of them died. Things got better after they invented boats. 1987 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: ky82sn
Date Posted: January-30-2011 at 11:54pm
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cant remember exactly where but somewhere on this forum someone was making reproductions out of teak and some type of other wood. I think they were 200. us ------------- 1982 ski nautique 1966 Al Tyll Skier |
Posted By: Morfoot
Date Posted: January-30-2011 at 11:56pm
Ouch!  Sorry to hear that Seb..I know the feeling
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Posted By: SN206
Date Posted: January-31-2011 at 12:57am
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I would likely have enough, but shipping would be outragious. We know what happened last time. ------------- ...those who have fallen and those who will. |
Posted By: MartyMabe
Date Posted: January-31-2011 at 1:37am
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Posted By: Air206
Date Posted: January-31-2011 at 8:49am
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I had the same issue trying to build / rebuild a swim platform for the transom project. Look into Ipe and Jatoba. Ipe ( http://www.woodsthebest.com/ipe_decking/ipe-wood.htm - Info ) should match closer in color and will age gray as teak. Jatoba ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hymenaea_courbaril - Jatoba Info ) will be more amber/red and age to a more reddish color and may tiger stripe somewhat.
There are also exotic (South American -  ) mahogany and walnut that make beautiful swim platforms but are generally much darker than teak. BTW - you will think your screws are made from porcelain when trying to screw into these woods because they are sooooo dense and closed cell (unlike open cell teak).
All our "exotic" teak alternatives come from your continent.... I hope you can find some stock to work with........ Steve ------------- https://tinyurl.com/y6t5e3bu" rel="nofollow - 04 Air206 http://tinyurl.com/9urzgls" rel="nofollow - 91 Barefoot 78 SkiTiq |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: January-31-2011 at 9:12am
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Kap,
One more wood to consider from Steve's suggestions, is Cumaru. You've got more woods down there to chose from than we do up here!  I was just over at my favorite hardwood lumber yard yesterday and was walking through their "exotics" looking and feeling. Lots of "oily" woods and they all seem to come from central/south America.------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: Donald80SN
Date Posted: January-31-2011 at 11:03am
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Teak World Enterprises in Lebanon, Tennessee ( Near Nashville) builds plateforms out of recycled Teak Wood. Maybe they can just send you what you need in the form of TeaK Wood to repair yours. Google them and give them a try.
I hope this helps, Donald |
Posted By: OverMyHead
Date Posted: January-31-2011 at 12:29pm
Pete, I am not sure I would use the cumaru. I have attached a link to a wood stability chart. http://www.planethardwood.com/documents/WoodStabilityChart.pdf - hardwood stability chart Although I love the rich brown color and the graining of cumaru, it has proven to be very unstable in hardwood flooring applications, and that is in environmentally controlled homes, I have seen in new construction 4" plank floors open up enough that 50 cent pieces could have been rolled down the cracks. The problem results from excessive moisture in the sub floor from painting and taping being absorbed into the new flooring, it swells bigger than it will ever be again, pushing the floor apart, then when the house finds its permanent(lower) moisture level, the floors shrink, and never are tight again. This happens with all woods, but it is worst with cumaru, spotted gum and to some degree maple. We do our best to dicourage cumaru in new construction,If it is used we are sticklers for site conditions and try not to use products over 2 1/4" wide. We have a little better luck with pre-finished, Probably a combination of being sealed one one side and being installed later in the building process which tends to give better control of onsite environmental conditions. The chart is somewhat decieving also, by the numbers cumaru should perform similar to oak, but in practice it moves about 300% more. Cumaru is also the heaviest wood we install, to the point of being significant in the amounts used to build a platform. It does mill nicely, but I would worry about it stressing the adhesives and fasteners. Braz cherry (jatoba) on the other hand has proven to be very stable, less expensive and a little lighter, but the color mixed with teak will stand out like a sore thumb, and it gets darker when exposed to sun light. ------------- For thousands of years men have felt the irresistible urge to go to sea, and many of them died. Things got better after they invented boats. 1987 Ski Nautique |
8122pbrainard wrote:Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: January-31-2011 at 12:49pm
Dave, I'm not looking from a stabily standpoint here but rather rot resistance. You know all woods grow with water absorbtion especially when there are large areas (not the case in this instance). This is not a wood floor in a house and the spacing between the wood on a swim platform is there for a reason. Also keep in mind that the typical plateform is screwed together allowing for movement. Yes, the color will be different. Even Teak from a different tree will be different. I feel Kap will end up replacing all the wood. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: OverMyHead
Date Posted: January-31-2011 at 1:02pm
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Pete, my thinking is why use a wood known to move more when something like a braz cherry is available with similar rot resistance but less movement. I agree, the paltform would be better replaced as a whole unless he can find some old teak for the repair. I would look for a old platrform to scavange materials from. It will be interesting to see the pics and how much is damaged. Seems like it would be hard to wreck much past the first board, but given time I am sure I will do worse. Kap, if you replace be sure to save the old teak. Hows the Dock? ------------- For thousands of years men have felt the irresistible urge to go to sea, and many of them died. Things got better after they invented boats. 1987 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: Air206
Date Posted: January-31-2011 at 1:08pm
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If you are going to change it all........ The jatoba ones offered through the site are AWESOME! I am putting it on my Tique this spring. I'm sure shipping's a bear but it would be worth looking into as they are "plug and play" and sharp looking! (make sure it is crated well upon shipment as mine was a little flimsy in its arriving plywood box).
Cost is very reasonable for what you get and they are BEAUTIFUL!  ------------- https://tinyurl.com/y6t5e3bu" rel="nofollow - 04 Air206 http://tinyurl.com/9urzgls" rel="nofollow - 91 Barefoot 78 SkiTiq |
Posted By: kapla
Date Posted: January-31-2011 at 2:14pm
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I´m not considering a total rebuilt..just replacing the broken boards..I will post some pics later in order to get some advice..Are the board only screwed or they also take some kind of adhesive?
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Posted By: Bri892001
Date Posted: January-31-2011 at 2:44pm
| The store on this very site has entire reproduction platforms. Is that overkill to fix your issue? |
Posted By: kapla
Date Posted: January-31-2011 at 7:51pm
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Seems I can locally get teak here..At least I will take a chance with a friend that has a luxury shipyard and all the deck flooring in the yatchs are made with teak, so he told me he would search in the shop for some discarded boards and fix it up....
No way I could imports a whole platform!! shipping would double the cost itself, not to menction the import taxes... ------------- <a href="">1992 ski nautique |
Posted By: Keeganino
Date Posted: January-31-2011 at 10:44pm
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Thats what happens when you get too many hotties on the boat! Bummer for sure but you will get it fixed up. ------------- "working on these old boats may not be cost effective but as it shows its what it brings into your life that matters" -Roger http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=4897" rel="nofollow - 1973 Skier |
Posted By: kapla
Date Posted: February-01-2011 at 12:00am
Hotties outing was saturday..this incident was on sunday when I went out with the kids....  ------------- <a href="">1992 ski nautique |
Posted By: OverMyHead
Date Posted: February-01-2011 at 1:08am
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Maybe it was a hottie hang over. ------------- For thousands of years men have felt the irresistible urge to go to sea, and many of them died. Things got better after they invented boats. 1987 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: kapla
Date Posted: February-01-2011 at 9:59am
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Posted By: kapla
Date Posted: February-01-2011 at 10:02am
probably  ------------- <a href="">1992 ski nautique |
Posted By: BuffaloBFN
Date Posted: February-01-2011 at 10:09am
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Damn Kap, that was a shot!
That looks repairable from here. A carefully glued joint is often stronger than the material and you might add a few screws to reinforce it. Maybe your friend has some scrap you could make plugs from? ------------- http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=2331&sort=&pagenum=12&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - 1988 BFN-sold "It's a Livin' Thing...What a Terrible Thing to Lose" ELO |
Posted By: kapla
Date Posted: February-01-2011 at 10:13am
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only problem is the 3rd board is missing a big chunck, the rest is there...
I thinking in replacing #2 and #3 boards... I will go tomorrow to the shipyard and see...on the adhesive thing what is the one to use in this case? At least the lower frame is intact!!! ------------- <a href="">1992 ski nautique |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: February-01-2011 at 10:42am
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Kap,
Not much sticks to Teak because of it's oil content. Some of the polyurethanes do work (Sika) but I suggest just screwing it back together as done originally. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: February-01-2011 at 10:53am
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I'd replace all the broken wood with new and screw it. Should be a fairly easy fix. Good thing you got a strong transom! ------------- |
Posted By: 81nautique
Date Posted: February-01-2011 at 11:31am
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You just spent thousands of dollars rebuilding the motor and replacing stringers on that boat, use that piece of firewood to stoke up your next asado and put a platform on that boat that you will be proud of. Get one made locally, that's pretty basic carpentry, got to be someone down there that can build a nice one for you. Post pictures of your boat babes oiling it down. ------------- You can’t change the wind but you can adjust your sails |
Posted By: kapla
Date Posted: February-03-2011 at 1:22pm
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just dropped the platform at my friends shop..I will see the results in a couple of days...
Estimate cost..an asado (BBQ) and some nice bottle of wine... told some crazy prices on the teak wood something like $33 the foot... ------------- <a href="">1992 ski nautique |
Posted By: kapla
Date Posted: February-08-2011 at 3:11pm
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Have my refurbed platform again..Looks new. 3 boards replaced and also the 2 triangular frame board from below were replaced as they were severely rotted.
I will have pictures soon... ------------- <a href="">1992 ski nautique |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: February-08-2011 at 3:24pm
These pictures should be interesting... Ive never seen rotten teak before.  ------------- |
Posted By: kapla
Date Posted: February-08-2011 at 3:33pm
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I will post the pics of the rotten parts as I have the scraps in the truck.
some places the wood is soft and spongy like a cork..screws wont hold... ------------- <a href="">1992 ski nautique |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: February-08-2011 at 3:56pm
It must be the water and different aquadic organisms down there!
Kap, Are you sure the rotten pieces were Teak? ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: Mojo
Date Posted: February-08-2011 at 4:01pm
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Must be from all that good looking, er I mean suntan lotion dripping from it Pete ,,,,,,,,,
Moj' ------------- 05' SV211 TE 73' Martinique had:96' SNOB had:76' Nautique had 77 Tique |
Posted By: kapla
Date Posted: February-08-2011 at 5:21pm
pictures speaks
as far as I know this is teak..unless some work has been done by PO´s.. not likely anyway... ------------- <a href="">1992 ski nautique |
Posted By: Bri892001
Date Posted: February-08-2011 at 5:54pm
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Well, it's probably a happy accident that you discovered the bad wood now then.
This could have very easily resulted in a "Hottie Overboard!" situation 
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Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: February-08-2011 at 6:05pm
Kap, It's always hard to tell from pictures but to me, the rotted pieces do not look like Teak. The grain (pores) isn't open like Teak is. I've got a feeling a PO did do some work on it!! ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: kapla
Date Posted: February-08-2011 at 6:14pm
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who knows..anyway if it was another wood it lasted some 11 years..at least thats when I bought the boat.
I will try shots from another angle...but I´m sure it´s teak. Not that I care..but if it wasn´t, the guy who fixed it now for me would have noted that also... ------------- <a href="">1992 ski nautique |
Posted By: kapla
Date Posted: February-08-2011 at 6:52pm
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hey..any good creative idea to do with the scrap pieces I have? apart from the board of the pictures I have some of the top boards, one in complete lenght, and the other 2 in pieces..
I really don´t think using it as firewood as a nice ending for teak... ------------- <a href="">1992 ski nautique |
Posted By: Luchog
Date Posted: February-08-2011 at 9:10pm
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Hey Kap. is there a good piece of teak left? I could use some small pieces for my teak step pad missing steaks.
Gonna call you tomorrow. Planning on going to B.A. later this month. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=2095" rel="nofollow - 1980 Ski Nautique Commander 351W |
Posted By: OverMyHead
Date Posted: February-08-2011 at 9:51pm
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Carve a mini correct craft replica for your key chain. ------------- For thousands of years men have felt the irresistible urge to go to sea, and many of them died. Things got better after they invented boats. 1987 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: kapla
Date Posted: February-09-2011 at 12:08am
I have all this pieces.... the rot was very superficial, after sanding it with the grinder I found good wood  ------------- <a href="">1992 ski nautique |
Posted By: kapla
Date Posted: February-11-2011 at 9:45pm
something like this??jajaj this is the start..gave the shape with the flap disc on the angle grinder and then some 80 grit.... 
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Posted By: Luchog
Date Posted: February-11-2011 at 10:17pm
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will that turn a lefty engine? ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=2095" rel="nofollow - 1980 Ski Nautique Commander 351W |
Posted By: kapla
Date Posted: February-11-2011 at 10:20pm
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maybe... ------------- <a href="">1992 ski nautique |
Posted By: Keeganino
Date Posted: February-11-2011 at 10:24pm
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Call it your first woody! ------------- "working on these old boats may not be cost effective but as it shows its what it brings into your life that matters" -Roger http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=4897" rel="nofollow - 1973 Skier |
Posted By: OverMyHead
Date Posted: February-12-2011 at 12:57am
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I should have told you to make two, one for the idea man. looks cool. I can't wait to see it with a few coats of varnish. Could Marty miniturize some graphics for you? Then you will just need a tiny little chrome bow eye to hook a key chain to. ------------- For thousands of years men have felt the irresistible urge to go to sea, and many of them died. Things got better after they invented boats. 1987 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: BuffaloBFN
Date Posted: February-12-2011 at 1:11am
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Kap, I'd pay you good money for one of those scraps if we were on the same rock.
While on the topic, does anyone local have any old scraps big enough to reproduce the L trim piece in the 88's? ------------- http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=2331&sort=&pagenum=12&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - 1988 BFN-sold "It's a Livin' Thing...What a Terrible Thing to Lose" ELO |
Posted By: kapla
Date Posted: February-12-2011 at 1:39am
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I have some scraps so in my next free time i'll see what I can do..lol.. ------------- <a href="">1992 ski nautique |
Posted By: kapla
Date Posted: February-12-2011 at 3:37pm
fixed platform...
 
unfortunately I will have to start a new thread as I hit a submerged log or so and bent the shaft
I'm cursed lately ------------- <a href="">1992 ski nautique |
Posted By: Luchog
Date Posted: February-12-2011 at 9:41pm
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Kap, there's a Revesta Teak oil here, it works great as the wood sucks it and looks great. There's also a teak sealer to apply after. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=2095" rel="nofollow - 1980 Ski Nautique Commander 351W |