ski pole
Printed From: CorrectCraftFan.com
Category: General Correct Craft Discussion
Forum Name: Common Questions
Forum Discription: Visit here first for common questions regarding your Correct Craft
URL: http://www.CorrectCraftFan.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=20524
Printed Date: November-22-2024 at 9:23pm
Topic: ski pole
Posted By: Candlwoodsteve
Subject: ski pole
Date Posted: February-01-2011 at 12:54pm
|
i owen a 68 mustang and the pole is missing.i dont understand how it is installed.the only thing i see is a ring glassed into the hull?can anyone explain? pic or info would be apreaited.
thanks |
Replies:
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: February-01-2011 at 1:07pm
|
Steve,
I installed several pylons back in the late 60's early 70's while working at a CC dealership. The pylons in most cases were dealer installed. Sometimes the mounts were glassed into the bilge from the factory at the keel and sometimes they weren't. The pylon then simply went through a hole in the floor. Sometimes the hole in the floor was even there and just covered over by the floor vinyl. Later hulls were coming through with a 2x6 between the main stringers under the floor for some extra reinforcement. How are your stringers? If they have never been replaced, it will be a major concern. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: Candlwoodsteve
Date Posted: February-01-2011 at 1:17pm
| well what i have is just a ring that stands verticle. mabey i need to see the pole to understand how i atach it. the ring i see is glassed into the floor from the factory i asume. is there more than one part?douse the pole atach to the ring i see? is there a book that i can get to show how it is assembled? thank u for your help. my goal is to fix it to be stock. |
Posted By: Candlwoodsteve
Date Posted: February-01-2011 at 1:25pm
| i am pulling up the plywood in aprill to inspect the stringers. what i can see they seem fine but i need to get a good look. the ring i am talking about i can see infront of the mouter.under the floor glassed to the hull. i am concerned why someone would take the pole out |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: February-01-2011 at 1:46pm
|
Steve,
I remember someone having a picture that may give you a better idea. We'll see if they chime in but let me explain further. The ring at the keel accepts a male pin at the bottom of the pylon. This connection is cross drilled connected. The hole in floor is simply a hole. There is no connection to the pylon at that point. The pylon simply "floats" in the hole. Take a look through the diaries. There are a few pictures that show pylons but regretably only above the floor level. At least it will give you a idea of the pylon style. In a 68, the chances are good that it would have been a stepped style made up from different diameter pipes welded together. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: Candlwoodsteve
Date Posted: February-01-2011 at 2:21pm
| still alitle confused i think i need to see a pole and then it will probley make sence to me. can u think of any problem that would make someone remove the pole? could the ring in the keel be week? it seems to be fine when i look at it. i cant move it with my hand but that is not equil to pulling someone out of the watter. i cant stop asking my self y it was taken out. thanks for any imput |
Posted By: DrCC
Date Posted: February-01-2011 at 2:24pm
|
I have a picture of my pole.
|
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: February-01-2011 at 2:42pm
Steve, The pylons were optional. Sorry I didn't make it clear when I told you they were dealer installed. Strength? Many a skier(s) were pulled by that set up!!! ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Candlwoodsteve wrote:Posted By: DrCC
Date Posted: February-01-2011 at 2:48pm
|
Actually it's Billy's pole now. I sold the pole and bilge bracket to him.
The bilge bracket should look like two rings, side by side. To accept this pic in the next post since I clicked on the wrong reply for posting pics. |
Posted By: Candlwoodsteve
Date Posted: February-01-2011 at 2:49pm
| that is a surprise to me! i asumed all cc had a pylon. it makes sence because nothing looked worn.i would have never thought that it simply never had one.lol thanks you have been alot of help |
Posted By: DrCC
Date Posted: February-01-2011 at 2:53pm
Actually I prefer the word "Pylon"
|
Posted By: Candlwoodsteve
Date Posted: February-01-2011 at 3:06pm
| can i see the end of the pylon that goes into the bracket |
Posted By: DrCC
Date Posted: February-01-2011 at 3:08pm
| That's it in the above pic. |
Posted By: Candlwoodsteve
Date Posted: February-01-2011 at 3:39pm
| is there a special pin that is used? i am sorry for all the ? u have been alot of help to me and ia thankfull |
Posted By: DrCC
Date Posted: February-01-2011 at 3:52pm
| Special, No. 7/16" brass bolt. |
Posted By: Candlwoodsteve
Date Posted: February-01-2011 at 3:56pm
| thanks alot |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: February-01-2011 at 4:06pm
|
Steve,
The picture that Al (drCC) posted is the pylon style that fits a clevis type bracket glassed to the keel. 68 would be around the transition of a bracket change. You ether have the clevis or just the later style round female socket that accepts the round shank of the pylon bottom. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: Candlwoodsteve
Date Posted: February-01-2011 at 4:17pm
| i would have to say i have the cleves typ that takes the 7/16 brass bolt because the hole in the bracket is horazontal not verdical but thanks for the info now i no there are 2 typs |
Posted By: Candlwoodsteve
Date Posted: February-01-2011 at 4:20pm
|
i can tell this site is going to be a great tool for me when it comes to fixing this boat up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
thanks again |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: February-01-2011 at 4:26pm
Both styles are bolted at the keel!! That's what keeps the pylon in the boat. How about a picture. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: 75 Tique
Date Posted: February-01-2011 at 4:37pm
That and the fact that you are about 30 miles from TRBenj (Tim), Who has or is currently or will be in the near future renovating about half a dozen old or not so old CCs. I'm sure he'd love to stop by and take a look if you can drag him off his current projects. ------------- _____________ “So, how was your weekend?” “Well, let me see…sun burn, stiff neck, screwed up back, assorted aches and pains….yup, my weekend was great, thanks for asking.” |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: February-01-2011 at 4:56pm
|
Steve,
The early clevis style will look like two "ears" sticking out of the glass as shown in this picture at the top. 
The later style will just look like a short piece of pipe sticking out from the keel like this except with the cross drilled hole.  ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: Keeganino
Date Posted: February-01-2011 at 5:07pm
|
Here are some pics of my 73 Skier's pylon in various stages.
Before removing it. Might be different than yours not sure. After removing the pylon and the metal reinforcement plate. Looking at the bottom of the pylon with the male pin that goes into the bracket mounted to the hull. 
Temp back in the boat 
Close up of the socket in the hull. Pylon slides into this and a bolt goes through to hold it in place.(There is no wood under there so dont try to pull it up like I did. 
Took a while but finally got these apart 
Metal plate refurbished and bolted to the new floor 
Almost done!  ------------- "working on these old boats may not be cost effective but as it shows its what it brings into your life that matters" -Roger http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=4897" rel="nofollow - 1973 Skier |
Posted By: Candlwoodsteve
Date Posted: February-01-2011 at 5:25pm
| i have the early style cleves typ. i cant wait to start working on my boat unfortatly i dont have a place to work that isnt covered in snow!thanks to every one for the lesson it has been very helpfull. |
Posted By: 75 Tique
Date Posted: February-01-2011 at 5:30pm
|
Just noticed your profile picture. I don't think you mentioned that your Mustang was an SS model. The sweetens it up just a bit more. ------------- _____________ “So, how was your weekend?” “Well, let me see…sun burn, stiff neck, screwed up back, assorted aches and pains….yup, my weekend was great, thanks for asking.” |
Posted By: Candlwoodsteve
Date Posted: February-01-2011 at 5:39pm
| y r ss difrent ? |
Posted By: DrCC
Date Posted: February-01-2011 at 6:02pm
Standard normal Mustang, same vintage.
|
Posted By: Candlwoodsteve
Date Posted: February-01-2011 at 6:22pm
| i love my boat!!! i am hoping the stringers r ok. i will not know till i take up the floor and inspect. i am not in a rush and i am willing to do whatever it takes to restore this boat.i think it is a good project boat with a lot of potental.i have restored a 69 firebird and a 51 hd panhead but this mustang ss has me really excited. i will keep u posted. thanks again |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: February-01-2011 at 6:49pm
|
Cool boat- not many Mustang SS's around. Where did you find it? I never saw it pop up for sale publicly (craigslist, ebay, etc).
Ive got my fingers crossed for you, but you may want to prepare for the worst. My sister's '69 Mustang had one one stringer with minor rot, and another that consisted of soupy sawdust in a thin fiberglass shell. If youve got a plywood floor, then its been replaced at least once before- the original configuration would have been glass over foam. Edit: Did you buy this boat? http://correctcraftfan.com/forsale/details.asp?ID=3660&sort=&pagenum=1 - Mustang SS in Columbus, OH The seats look to be the same... I never realized that boat had a blue deck. Or is it the lighting in your pictures? ------------- |
Posted By: Candlwoodsteve
Date Posted: February-01-2011 at 8:35pm
|
yes i did buy my mustang in OH. it was advertised in culombas but it was acually in haskings a litle north west.i toed it home thrue the mountins of PA in a snow storm and had to change the axile to the trailer also in a snow storm.i was lucky i was able to find one on a sat afternoon.i think that it was ment to be in ct and i can get through any problems i find if i do my research and take my time.
i am consideing pulling the engine and doing the stringers just so i know it is right. i will see wha happens. the plywood has been replaced and it is not soft but it needs to come up so i can inspect.the boat has a lot going for it and i will have fun fixing it up. |
Posted By: dwcar
Date Posted: February-01-2011 at 8:49pm
|
Nice boat Steve. A little work ahead of you but she will be a head turner when you finish. ------------- 83Ski |
Posted By: 75 Tique
Date Posted: February-04-2011 at 11:56am
|
Steve,
From the looks of the profile picture that Tim linked, it looks like you might need a motor box. Paul Carpenter in NC might be able to help you out. He posted this in another thread yesterday or today.
------------- _____________ “So, how was your weekend?” “Well, let me see…sun burn, stiff neck, screwed up back, assorted aches and pains….yup, my weekend was great, thanks for asking.” |
Posted By: Candlwoodsteve
Date Posted: February-04-2011 at 12:09pm
| Thank u . I have talked to Paul and I am heading to nc next week. Thanks again. |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: February-04-2011 at 12:14pm
|
Steve, would be be able to bring a trailer back with you? Ive got a thought... email me: TRBenj@gmail.com ------------- |
Posted By: 75 Tique
Date Posted: February-04-2011 at 12:42pm
Sometimes it seems that all roads lead to the greater Charlotte/Albermarle area. Sort of CCFs 'hub'
 ------------- _____________ “So, how was your weekend?” “Well, let me see…sun burn, stiff neck, screwed up back, assorted aches and pains….yup, my weekend was great, thanks for asking.” |
Posted By: nautiquefanatic
Date Posted: February-04-2011 at 4:00pm
|
Thanks 75 Tique for the lead....... I am looking forward to helping him out.
PC ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=3448" rel="nofollow - 1973 Ski Nautique http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=830" rel="nofollow - 1979 Barefoot Nautique |
Posted By: Candlwoodsteve
Date Posted: March-08-2011 at 5:17pm
| thanks to pc from nc i have inteerior, motor box and ski pole! i will need to modify ski pole to acsept my older clevas typ set up but i think it will be fine with a litle work. thanks again for evryones help and to a nice guy in nc!!!! |