Motor box/doghouse dim.
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Topic: Motor box/doghouse dim.
Posted By: BFNSport
Subject: Motor box/doghouse dim.
Date Posted: February-07-2011 at 11:16pm
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I’m looking for doghouse dimensions for a 454 1988 BFN .Base width and length and overall height .
Thanks, Jeff |
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Posted By: tullfooter
Date Posted: February-08-2011 at 11:37am
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I wish I could help, but my '85 doghouse is different than your '88.
I will measure for you if you need it, or you can borrow it for a pattern. Steve ------------- Play hard, life's not a trial run. '85 BFN '90 BFN White Lake, Michigan |
Posted By: BFNSport
Date Posted: February-08-2011 at 12:02pm
Yes if you could get dim. that will help |
tullfooter wrote:Posted By: dochockey
Date Posted: February-09-2011 at 10:49am
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Is the 89 SN the same ? ------------- 1989 Teal Ski Nautique 1967 Mustang Harris Float Sunfish |
Posted By: Swatkinz
Date Posted: February-09-2011 at 11:40am
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Is the BFN doghouse larger in all dimensions than a SN doghouse? Jeff, are you trying to fabricate one? If fabricating from nothing, I wonder if you could use a SN doghouse as a male mold for fabricating your new one? Or if you could find a SN doghouse and add length/width/height to get to the needed dimensions? Curious as to how I would tackle this one? ------------- Steve 2011 Sport/Air 200 Excalibur 343 2017 Boatmate Tandem Axle Trailer Former CC owner (77, 80, 95, 88, all SNs) Former Malibu owner (07, 09) |
Posted By: tullfooter
Date Posted: February-09-2011 at 12:26pm
Is a 454 bigger than a 351? 
Sorry Steve, had to do it. Jeff, It will take me a couple of days to get to my boat. It is in storage a few miles away, in my father-in-law's toy box. If I'm not mistaken, which I often am, the newer BFN's have a carpeted riser below the box. Mine does not. I'll get the dimensions of the doghouse, and like I said, you can take mine if you need to use it as a template. ------------- Play hard, life's not a trial run. '85 BFN '90 BFN White Lake, Michigan |
Posted By: BFNSport
Date Posted: February-09-2011 at 12:34pm
Thanks Steve! Differemces ?I would think so.I have a doghouse its just not from a CC .And Yes Im going to have to make one until I can find one..... |
Posted By: Swatkinz
Date Posted: February-09-2011 at 12:37pm
Steve, I guess I walked right into that one. My real question shoudl've been is it bigger in "all" dimensions. Taller, Wider AND Longer? Or is the shape totally different than a small block doghouse? I would think if Jeff had at least an SN doghouse to start from he could cut it in half to widen. Cut in half the other way to heighten and then cut in half the other way to lengthen. Is that what he's doing? Or is he going to fab one from just measurements? It seems that fabricating one from nothing would be extremely difficult. ------------- Steve 2011 Sport/Air 200 Excalibur 343 2017 Boatmate Tandem Axle Trailer Former CC owner (77, 80, 95, 88, all SNs) Former Malibu owner (07, 09) |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: February-09-2011 at 1:05pm
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The BFN (454) box is wider, but probably similar in length to a SN (351) motorbox. The BFN box is also a little shorter, since the motor sits lower in the v-hull (the main stringers are ~6" below floor height).
Ive seen a few different styles of boxes on the earlier BFN's. Some are flat topped glass boxes, others are wood. All of the boxes after ~86 are the fancier shaped ones (round top, angles cut out of rear corners). They started carpeting the base of the vinyl in '87 or '88- the earlier ones still had the aluminum trim on the bottom edge. Jeff, if youre looking to build your own (presumably out of wood), the rough dimensions from Steve will be a good start. The earlier, flat top boxes are the simplest in shape. ------------- |
Posted By: BFNSport
Date Posted: February-09-2011 at 3:59pm
Like i said I have a box just not sure what it came from. If I had Dim. I could better dedcide if a small block cover will work or could be made it work with a little moding.Or if the one I have will work.Im also want to know how much clearance is needed. |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: February-09-2011 at 4:08pm
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I doubt a small block box will fit over the big block. The difference in width is pretty significant. Im not sure what you mean by "a little modding"... to use a small block box, you would most likely have to split it down the middle and widen it.
Im not sure what you mean by "how much clearance is needed"... if the box fits over the engine without rubbing, its fine. ------------- |
Posted By: BFNSport
Date Posted: February-09-2011 at 4:23pm
A little moding ....yes split down the center line.I realize its wider than a small block. When they offered a BB or SB in the same boat would they use a different motor box? Clearance ... I was thinking to tight could cause a fire hazard ? maybe over thinking..... |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: February-09-2011 at 4:33pm
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The few small block BFN/Dominiques in the diaries *appear* to have the narrower boxes... but I havent seen one in person to be sure.
Dont worry about the clearance- if youre not touching, youre fine. The exhaust manifolds are the only thing that would interfere width wise, and those dont get hot enough to harm the fiberglass. ------------- |
Posted By: BFNSport
Date Posted: February-09-2011 at 4:38pm
Thanks. Building from scratch should not be that hard just time consuming.Thats why Im looking for one. Jeff |
Posted By: BuffaloBFN
Date Posted: February-12-2011 at 12:15am
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50" long
36.5" wide 21.5" tall Most of the top isn't flat. There is a ~10" horizontal strip and it slopes to the front and rear. All 4 corners are 45'd- the front cuts a good bit larger than the rear. It would be a challenge to exactly reproduce one in wood, but not so tough with a few less angles. ------------- http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=2331&sort=&pagenum=12&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - 1988 BFN-sold "It's a Livin' Thing...What a Terrible Thing to Lose" ELO |
Posted By: BFNSport
Date Posted: February-12-2011 at 12:24am
Thank you very much! Could you get any pictures of the inside? Thanks again Jeff |
Posted By: BuffaloBFN
Date Posted: February-12-2011 at 12:25am
Here's the footprint. Because of the joinery, those back corners are rounded, but they are 45'd on the box. I looked for some other pics, but they're all either without the cover in place or out the back.
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Posted By: BuffaloBFN
Date Posted: February-12-2011 at 12:29am
I could get some good pics for you tomorrow, but then I'll catch a ration from the guys. Our baby needs a bath and the carpet is falling off of the doghouse.  ------------- http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=2331&sort=&pagenum=12&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - 1988 BFN-sold "It's a Livin' Thing...What a Terrible Thing to Lose" ELO |
Posted By: BFNSport
Date Posted: February-12-2011 at 12:48am
20footproductions@gmail.com no one will know
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Posted By: BuffaloBFN
Date Posted: February-12-2011 at 1:04am
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Well sure, if I stand 20' away they'll look fine.
I'll post 'em up; they'll only prove it gets used! ------------- http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=2331&sort=&pagenum=12&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - 1988 BFN-sold "It's a Livin' Thing...What a Terrible Thing to Lose" ELO |
Posted By: BFNSport
Date Posted: February-12-2011 at 1:40am
Thats my e-mail adress then I will have black mail photos LOL |
Posted By: BuffaloBFN
Date Posted: February-13-2011 at 9:46am
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Too late for blackmail...went shopping for Valentine's day already.
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Posted By: BuffaloBFN
Date Posted: February-13-2011 at 6:25pm
2 points for whoever figures out why the starboard riser bolts aren't painted.  ------------- http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=2331&sort=&pagenum=12&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - 1988 BFN-sold "It's a Livin' Thing...What a Terrible Thing to Lose" ELO |
Posted By: tullfooter
Date Posted: February-17-2011 at 6:22pm
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Jeff
Sorry I have not been any help. I have not had a chance to get to my boat. I haven't actually seen her since I put her in storage. 
I have some time tonight and was thinking about going to the man cave. Is there anything I can get from my boat that might help? ------------- Play hard, life's not a trial run. '85 BFN '90 BFN White Lake, Michigan |
Posted By: Salty
Date Posted: February-17-2011 at 8:07pm
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Riser bolts not painted? My guess is that the Port side manifold has been replaced and after it was put back on someone touched it up with a little spray paint that got on the riser bolts.
The Starboard side appears to look the way it did when it came from the factory. Make sense? ------------- Salty 2018 GS22 with Z4 2008 Ski Nautique 206 w/Factory Tower, EX343 SOLD 1978 Southwind 18 w/GM305, upgraded 4 barrel intake & carb, all original - vinyl & carpet, etc. [URL=http://s328.photobucket.com |
Posted By: BuffaloBFN
Date Posted: February-17-2011 at 11:01pm
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You're close. In a nut shell, it's from having to do something I had already done...or so I thought.
The bolts are new stainless on both sides. The one side hasn't been polished with a wrench.  ------------- http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=2331&sort=&pagenum=12&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - 1988 BFN-sold "It's a Livin' Thing...What a Terrible Thing to Lose" ELO |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: February-18-2011 at 10:16pm
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If youre looking for basic dimensions to build the box, here are ours from our '79 BFN. Its a different shape, but I would expect overall size to be very similar to the newer boxes.
Base: 46"L x 36"W Top: 30"L x 32"W Height: 22" ------------- |