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Topic: Question about my car...
Posted By: mdvalant
Subject: Question about my car...
Date Posted: March-07-2011 at 6:56pm
Hey gang,

My daily driver is an 01 accord with the 2.3 4-cyl vtec motor. Today it has 199,997 miles on it. Everyone changes their honda's timing belt and water pumps every 100k. I want to be the exception but I understand it is a risk. What are your thoughts? 600 bones to replace them both. They say when you do one, you do the other. What would you guys do? I would assume fix. I'm leaning toward the replacement but I'm dragging my feet. Hard to spend 600 on something that isn't broke...yet.

-Mike

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http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5009 - '90 Ski (sold)
http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5479 - '00 Sport
Mississippi River - Bellevue, IA



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Posted By: M3Fan
Date Posted: March-07-2011 at 7:01pm
Have both done. No question. I'm all about preventative maintenance. Aside from preventing the ruining of your engine (valve interference with the TB, rapid overheat with shot waterpump or worse- pulley failure on WP causing belt catastrophe in the engine compartment, etc.), I'd easily pay that amount to NOT be on the side of the road somewhere. Middle of the night, on vacation, with child in car, with wife or other family driving, etc. No thanks!

You might want to look into DIY'ing the job. I bet it's easier than you think and I'm sure there are DIYs all over the place for a car that common.

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2016 SN 200 OB 5.3L DI
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Posted By: Chris4x4gill2
Date Posted: March-07-2011 at 7:04pm
You changed it last at 100k? If you plan to keep the car, I would change it again. If your going to sell it in the next couple months, then let it ride.

Yes, you need to replace the water pump at the same time. Most of your cost is labor and the pump has to come off anyway. cost of a new pump is less than $100.


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/diaries/details.asp?ID=4472" rel="nofollow - '89 Ski Nautique 2001


Posted By: mdvalant
Date Posted: March-07-2011 at 7:18pm
Thanks for the replies fellas. I was pretty much always going to change it, I'm just a cheap SOB lol. Good points though, I do hear that if that timing belt goes it's a bad deal...

It was changed at 100k mark yes, so it's just due again...Parts are the cheap part. I do NOT want to do it myself after looking through the steps. I know my way around the car but I don't trust myself with something that important. haha

I'm spending tax and bonus money on stuff I don't want. Oh the joys of owning stuff.

1: Front wheel bearing hub assemblies for my '97 explorer
2: Front outter tie rod ends for my '97 explorer
3: Front sway bar for the '06 explorer
4: New/new to us riding lawn mower (old hand me down is about done)
5: Timing belt/water pump on '01 accord

Vehicles are the worst investment one can make. Nautique on the other hand? Best. ;)

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http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5009 - '90 Ski (sold)
http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5479 - '00 Sport
Mississippi River - Bellevue, IA


Posted By: M3Fan
Date Posted: March-07-2011 at 7:35pm
With two Exploders looks like you're getting out easy! :p

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2016 SN 200 OB 5.3L DI
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Posted By: Chris4x4gill2
Date Posted: March-07-2011 at 7:36pm
I've got a complete Explorer front end sitting beside my shop.

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/diaries/details.asp?ID=4472" rel="nofollow - '89 Ski Nautique 2001


Posted By: mdvalant
Date Posted: March-07-2011 at 7:40pm
Originally posted by Chris4x4gill2 Chris4x4gill2 wrote:

I've got a complete Explorer front end sitting beside my shop.


What can I do with that?

the 06 has 110k and my 97 has 190k.

I love those things. I'll never get rid of that 97. It pulls boats like no body's bizz!!! And hauls the huntin gear around pretty good.

This pic was before I put the rear shackles on it to lift the back end to get rid of that classic gross explorer sag.



Here's one of them both:



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http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5009 - '90 Ski (sold)
http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5479 - '00 Sport
Mississippi River - Bellevue, IA


Posted By: Chris4x4gill2
Date Posted: March-07-2011 at 8:15pm
Originally posted by mdvalant mdvalant wrote:

Originally posted by Chris4x4gill2 Chris4x4gill2 wrote:

I've got a complete Explorer front end sitting beside my shop.


What can I do with that?




I dunno......... just adding to the convorsation. Its out of a 99. I pulled it out and dropped in a Dana 44 with leaf springs .

Did you add the Warrior shackles?

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/diaries/details.asp?ID=4472" rel="nofollow - '89 Ski Nautique 2001


Posted By: mdvalant
Date Posted: March-07-2011 at 8:17pm
haha oh nice!

I don't know what shackles I added, heavy steel ones...does that help? lol they were an AWESOME upgrade though. I recommend doing that to all those old explorers. That sag they all have bothers me!

Looks more aggressive without a boat, and when pulling something it squats to level. Makes it look much better. IMO

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http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5009 - '90 Ski (sold)
http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5479 - '00 Sport
Mississippi River - Bellevue, IA


Posted By: Dreaming
Date Posted: March-07-2011 at 10:08pm
Originally posted by mdvalant mdvalant wrote:

It was changed at 100k mark yes, so it's just due again...Parts are the cheap part. I do NOT want to do it myself after looking through the steps. I know my way around the car but I don't trust myself with something that important. haha



Mike - your about 40K overdue according to the manual.   Some aftermarket TB's allow a 90K service interval, but the Honda ones are 60K.   I had an accord that I sold at 260K, so as long as it's in good conditon, there is plenty of life left in it :)   I agree that TB, waterpump, etc are pretty easy repairs as long as you take your time and hand crank the engine over 2x by hand before using the starter.   YOu'll be able to tell if you have it wrong by hand spinning it.   if nothing hits in 720 degrees of turn , start it up and admire the 500 bucks you saved :)


Posted By: Chris4x4gill2
Date Posted: March-07-2011 at 10:26pm
Warrior brand shackles are a common upgrade on the Explorers for the reasons you said. I have a set on mine, I also ended up having a custom set of rear leafs made with an additional leaf to get rid of the sag.


And I agree that 100K is longer than I push a TB. I do think that Honda recommends them at around 95K though on those Hondas (it did use to be closer to 60K), I typically go 65-75 on mine. 3 Hondas - 220K, 280K, and 190K

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/diaries/details.asp?ID=4472" rel="nofollow - '89 Ski Nautique 2001


Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: March-07-2011 at 11:09pm
I would not be bragging how many miles you guy's have on your cars- I have a '01 Cherokee with 65k and an 04 Volvo with 39k.I'll bet your wasting too much time in the car

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95 Nautique Super Sport


Posted By: Tim D
Date Posted: March-07-2011 at 11:25pm
Check the camshaft seals while you're in there. If they're leaking, oil will ruin a new belt.

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Tim D


Posted By: horkn
Date Posted: March-08-2011 at 12:30am
I hate timing belts.

I also hate vehicles that have timing belts that don't last 100k, or damn close to that. I also am not a fan of interference motors. The thought of having valves crash if the belt goes is not a thought I like to think of.

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Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: March-08-2011 at 10:01am


im a firm believer in letting them go past the regular scheduled maintanance, happened to me twice so far

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"the things you own will start to own you"


Posted By: jbear
Date Posted: March-09-2011 at 2:33am
Originally posted by Gary S Gary S wrote:

I would not be bragging how many miles you guy's have on your cars- I have a '01 Cherokee with 65k and an 04 Volvo with 39k.I'll bet your wasting too much time in the car


Maybe these guys are not lucky enough to have the same kind of vehicle me and you used for years to go to the drs, visiting, shopping, to run errands, work out, and just about anything else we could think of! I never used my own vehicle to go anywhere except the bay.


john

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"Loud pipes save lives"



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Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: March-09-2011 at 2:44am
And we were getting paid at the same time too.With our new better way of doing things,I'm driving more now that ever,Good thing gas is cheap

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http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS
95 Nautique Super Sport


Posted By: jbear
Date Posted: March-09-2011 at 3:28am
well its like I tell my guys when I talk to them now a days....you get paid just the same for 'windshield time' as you do for pole climbing time.


john

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"Loud pipes save lives"



AdamT sez "I'm Canadian and a beaver lover myself"...


Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: March-09-2011 at 10:00am
pole climber?

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"the things you own will start to own you"


Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: March-09-2011 at 12:43pm
Originally posted by jbear jbear wrote:

well its like I tell my guys when I talk to them now a days....you get paid just the same for 'windshield time' as you do for pole climbing time.


john


quinner keeps saying something like that but it goes "you get paid just the same for backseat time as you do pole smoking time."

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Posted By: mdvalant
Date Posted: March-09-2011 at 12:47pm
This thread has taken a turn for the worst!

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http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5009 - '90 Ski (sold)
http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5479 - '00 Sport
Mississippi River - Bellevue, IA


Posted By: peter1234
Date Posted: March-09-2011 at 1:04pm
eric i didnt know you were a mushroom gatherer

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former skylark owner now a formula but I cant let this place go


Posted By: Dreaming
Date Posted: March-09-2011 at 3:23pm
Originally posted by Gary S Gary S wrote:

I would not be bragging how many miles you guy's have on your cars- I have a '01 Cherokee with 65k and an 04 Volvo with 39k.I'll bet your wasting too much time in the car


I'd LOVE to have that problem....   I have 2 cars that get well over 20K per year, nature of the beast out here.   If I worked closer to home, I might be able to save the gas money and actually GET a boat.   instead of just dreaming


Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: March-10-2011 at 10:16am
too bad they are not of the South African type lol

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"the things you own will start to own you"


Posted By: mdvalant
Date Posted: March-10-2011 at 7:32pm
The accord goes under the knife on Monday!!!

Timing belt/water pump
All wheel alignment
SRS light is on, gonna have them put some electrical tape over it

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http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5009 - '90 Ski (sold)
http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5479 - '00 Sport
Mississippi River - Bellevue, IA


Posted By: jbear
Date Posted: March-11-2011 at 2:35am
Originally posted by Hollywood Hollywood wrote:


quinner keeps saying something like that but it goes "you get paid just the same for backseat time as you do pole smoking time."


LOL HW...



john

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"Loud pipes save lives"



AdamT sez "I'm Canadian and a beaver lover myself"...



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