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Topic: tools shopping
Posted By: Luchog
Subject: tools shopping
Date Posted: March-16-2011 at 1:19am
As some of you might know I'm working at a boat service shop, I have my own set of "quick repair" tools, mostly bahcos, but I want to buy a complete set as I dont like borrowing tools.
I have come through some nice Craftman sets at Sears, are they any good? I have people going to the US and they could bring one to me.
So questions is, is the craftman brand good enough to work with? is there something else you might recomend?
I really like the Bahco's but they are quite pricey.
Also, were is a good place to buy from?
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Posted By: sweet77
Date Posted: March-16-2011 at 2:18am
craftsman are good tools. lifetime warranty and for doing the kind of work you do they would work fine for the price. Snap-on MAC are awesome tools very smooth ratchets.but no way worth the money
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Posted By: wingwrench
Date Posted: March-16-2011 at 12:00pm
All my basic tools, wrenches, ratchets, sockets etc., are Craftsman and have been making me money for over 30 years. I only buy Snap-on or Mac if Sears doesn't make it, like 1/4" drive swivel sockets. They are good quality and when they wear out or break take them back and get new.
Ebay has been a good source for Snap-on for me.
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Posted By: Dreaming
Date Posted: March-16-2011 at 4:33pm
I love my Snap on tools.... my craftsman tools do work well for most things, but when you break it, it's going to be hard to find replacements (warrantee) if there isn't a Sears in Argentina, and they don't fit the hand very well for someone who is working with them daily. Snap-on while pricey is a very well built tool, nice feel in your hand, and world wide product representation... Mac and Cornwell are also nice, Protec, etc.... each has their nice advantages. If you have a supplier local that can get you nice tools, it might be worth sticking with your local guy so replacements and warrantee's still apply
always fun to shop for tools!!!
edit - I like to look for snap on stuff at the pawn shops... some times there are good deals to be had, and warrantee is equal.
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Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: March-16-2011 at 7:19pm
my snap-ons sit, i use gear wrenches 95% of the time, i have them all the way up to 1.125 craftsman outsources but once again you have no choice. all my screwdrivers are crapsman....i bundle them once a year and go get a new set
I dont like car payments or tool payments,
the hilljacks down here in the tucky finance 15k boxes with the number 3 on them...to each his own, thats alot of beer money. i guess im more geared to making money then spending it
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Posted By: kapla
Date Posted: March-16-2011 at 7:42pm
wattabout sata? I have a nice set of socket wrenches, been using them a lot and never failed...
About warranty..no representation here for snap..so its kinda same...
Edit: I know its chinese, but not the usual chinese crap IMO...
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Posted By: harddock
Date Posted: March-16-2011 at 9:03pm
eric lavine wrote:
my snap-ons sit, i use gear wrenches 95% of the time, i have them all the way up to 1.125 craftsman outsources but once again you have no choice. all my screwdrivers are crapsman....i bundle them once a year and go get a new set
I dont like car payments or tool payments,
the hilljacks down here in the tucky finance 15k boxes with the number 3 on them...to each his own, thats alot of beer money. i guess im more geared to making money then spending it |
+1 on the gear wrench, cept mine are blue point. As for ratchets a screwdrivers I like the feel of snap on better than craftsman. And last but not least my box has the #8 and Bud/Jr mural when the lid is opened. It had a dent in the back and caught it on ebay for cheap with no reserve.
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Posted By: peter1234
Date Posted: March-16-2011 at 9:31pm
I have mostly snap on and feel that sockets and open end wrenches you use daily are hard to beat. its funny but it seems that through the yrs you find a diff brand seems to be better for a certain task.. fav wrench of all time craftsman offset double box 9/16 5/8.. i have actually broken head bolts loose with one .
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Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: March-16-2011 at 9:51pm
no pun there hard, i went thru many boxes in the old days, like boats i kept upgrading to bigger and better...then wisdom kicked in, some of these off brand companies make great boxes for 1/10 of the money and were not available back in the day which left no choice. but one thought came to mind,the other day I had to torque a mercedes truck head, that beeoch had to go to 207 ft lbs then 90 degrees and another 90 degrees, it was a 19mm 12 point and my only choice was a crapsman silver socket, 3/4 ratchet with a 4 ft cheater...bent the cheater, socket never broke
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Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: March-16-2011 at 9:52pm
Kap, Sata, paint guns?
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Posted By: Luchog
Date Posted: March-16-2011 at 9:57pm
Thing goes like this, we currently work with Bahco and Stanley, I'd buy all bahco stuff locally but 2 socket set costs more than a 300 pieces craftman set bought locally. (U$D750)
If I get to buy it in the states and have it shipped it would cost around 50%. So it's a nice option and I could get a bigger set.
Bahco's have lifetime warranty, you break it you get a new one.
The Stanley's down here are now made in Brazil, they are much much cheaper but couldnt get a review on quality.
There are no Sears or Snap on reps in Argentina.
So the question is, are Craftman's good enough to work with?
Are there other brands I should consider for the same price?
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Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: March-16-2011 at 10:13pm
For those who feel Craftsman is a good tool, why do they break? Do you enjoy taking them back for a new one?
BTW, you had better check on the Sears warrantee. The last I heard, some of their tools you can not return if broken.
Eric,
I love the "crapsman" comment!!!
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Posted By: BFNSport
Date Posted: March-16-2011 at 10:29pm
8122pbrainard wrote:
For those who feel Craftsman is a good tool, why do they break? Do you enjoy taking them back for a new one?
BTW, you had better check on the Sears warrantee. The last I heard, some of their tools you can not return if broken.
Eric,
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100% agree!
Crapsman rachets are good for playing trash can toss.Hardly worth the gas money to bring back only to find out the are out of replacemnet guts and you have to come back.
I have broken every craftsman rachet I have ever owned.
Never have I broke my Snap-ON rachets.
Craftsman end wrenches and sockets are ok.But when I have to replace one I would buy a Snap or Mac and never have a problem again.
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Posted By: Luchog
Date Posted: March-16-2011 at 11:04pm
So the ratchets are not good, but I could replace with any other brand if I had to.
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Posted By: Luchog
Date Posted: March-16-2011 at 11:06pm
eric lavine wrote:
i went thru many boxes in the old days, like boats i kept upgrading to bigger and better...then wisdom kicked in, |
So that's why you dont own a boat, right?
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Posted By: BFNSport
Date Posted: March-16-2011 at 11:27pm
Luchog wrote:
So the ratchets are not good, but I could replace with any other brand if I had to. |
Correct!
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Posted By: MartyMabe
Date Posted: March-16-2011 at 11:29pm
Dang- What are you guys using your Ratchet's for? My dad still has an 1/2" ratchet from the 60's--wrench's and sockets too!
I have never broken a 3/8" ratchet in my Craftsmen tool supply. Beat'em up, take them back and get new ones. No problem at my store. The 'Gearwrench' line that Sears offers is cheaper but just as sturdy. Got all my 'ratchet wrench's' in the Gearwrench brand.
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Posted By: sweet77
Date Posted: March-16-2011 at 11:39pm
sweet77 wrote:
craftsman are good tools. lifetime warranty and for doing the kind of work you do they would work fine for the price. Snap-on MAC are awesome tools very smooth ratchets.but no way worth the money |
once again its all about the money i have SNAP-ON screw drivers and they are awesome way better than my craftsman but for a phillips head and 1 flat head i paid almost $19.00 so its all about your wallet if you got money$$$$$$$$$ go with the snap-on if money is an issue craftsman but yes ive broke several ratchets returned and broke again
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Posted By: BFNSport
Date Posted: March-16-2011 at 11:52pm
MartyMabe wrote:
Dang- What are you guys using your Ratchet's for? My dad still has an 1/2" ratchet from the 60's--wrench's and sockets too!
I have never broken a 3/8" ratchet in my Craftsmen tool supply. Beat'em up, take them back and get new ones. No problem at my store. The 'Gearwrench' line that Sears offers is cheaper but just as sturdy. Got all my 'ratchet wrench's' in the Gearwrench brand.
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When they went to China the quality dropped like a rock. Shocker
I have 60 era sets from my great uncle and they are just as good as my Snap On or Mac.
All this being said I owned the chrome plated impact sockets from sears for a long time before shelling out for some actual impact sockets. LOL
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Posted By: Luchog
Date Posted: March-17-2011 at 12:14am
I have around U$D500 to spend, What's important to me are:
3/8 sockets, deep, ratchets, extensions, hex etc.
1/2 sockets, idem
Combination wrenches
allen
screwdrivers (square profile is preferable)
pliers
Those "fuel fitting wrenches" (between closed and open end)
All in metric and SAE
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Posted By: wingwrench
Date Posted: March-17-2011 at 12:15am
8122pbrainard wrote:
For those who feel Craftsman is a good tool, why do they break? Do you enjoy taking them back for a new one?
BTW, you had better check on the Sears warrantee. The last I heard, some of their tools you can not return if broken.
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They break when they are abused, doesn't matter who makes them. Grind a socket too thin, it splits, same goes for a wrench, the difference is Sears gives me a new one, the Snap-on guy tells me sorry you misused it. The only problem I have with Craftsman ratchets is they will stop retaining the socket but usually an overnight soak in the clean tank will cure it, if not it goes back for a new one. I have never broken a wrench, ratchet or socket that wasn't "modified".
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Posted By: BFNSport
Date Posted: March-17-2011 at 12:29am
Maybe its the size of my guns ......LOL I have never broke a snap on rachet. I have a 1/4 to 3/8 adapter on my Snap and never had an issue.
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Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: March-17-2011 at 12:42am
My Dad is still using his Sears from the '60s,chrome is good, ratchets are good. Mine on the other hand have pealing chrome and I seem to go thru ratchets quite often.The Sears in my area don't give you a new ratchet,but hand you one that has been repaired,so you get the one that was last used as a hammer. I keep forgetting why I don't go much anymore,then I go in and soon remember why.
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Posted By: peter1234
Date Posted: March-17-2011 at 12:44am
did anyone ever have the old bonney tools?
snap on 1 inch combination box wrench $130.00 ? please
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Posted By: sweet77
Date Posted: March-17-2011 at 12:51am
http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item.asp?P65=&tool=hand&item_ID=201&group_ID=530&store=snapon-store&dir=catalog - Snap-On
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Posted By: BFNSport
Date Posted: March-17-2011 at 12:51am
peter1234 wrote:
did anyone ever have the old bonney tools?
snap on 1 inch combination box wrench $130.00 ? please |
I have some in my antique tool collection
I do not own any large Snap on wrenches (the cheap stuff works).
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Posted By: BFNSport
Date Posted: March-17-2011 at 12:52am
Craigs List and have a freind ship them to you....?
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Posted By: Keeganino
Date Posted: March-17-2011 at 12:56am
I have a friend that hits every pawn shop he comes across looking for old tools because they were made so much better. He has a pretty awesome collection going. Its cool to see "Made in Chicago" or "Made in Milwaukee" on your tools. Made in the USA was a given back then. You had to represent your city!
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Posted By: Keeganino
Date Posted: March-17-2011 at 12:58am
sweet77 wrote:
http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item.asp?P65=&tool=hand&item_ID=201&group_ID=530&store=snapon-store&dir=catalog - Snap-On
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I lucked into a set of these and they are nice but still just a wrench. Might not say that if I had paid retail though!
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Posted By: wingwrench
Date Posted: March-17-2011 at 1:10am
Here is a 200 pc set for only $5000. Smokin deal!
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Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: March-17-2011 at 9:54am
Luch, actually in the summer im on a different boat every weekend..and during the week im down in the bowels of them....the 2 happiest days of a boat owner is a pretty close statement....I guess what im trying to say is a hobby turned into a job.
btw, most of the time i dont have to flip for gas either cause im always working on these guys boats in the neighborhood, I made the mistake but took an oath since then of advertising boat repair in my neighborhood, guys would be knocking on my door at 9:30 at night or my phone would ring all weekend long, there is no shortage of broken boats here in my hood.....it kinda numbs you......im a better teacher than an owner
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Posted By: Luchog
Date Posted: March-17-2011 at 11:09am
The best 2 days of boat ownership, the day you buy it, and the day you sell it.
We say that better than owning a boat is having a friend own a boat.
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Posted By: Dreaming
Date Posted: March-17-2011 at 3:48pm
Luchog wrote:
Those "fuel fitting wrenches" (between closed and open end)
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These are called "B" nut wrenches,
since you have a limited amount to spend, I would get Snap on combi wrenches, and rachet handles, the rest you can find cheap and replace as necessary.... all the broken tools that are in my box have the "crapsman" name on them.... it's hardly worth going to trade them in unless you have a few ready for replacement. Don't worry, you don't have to wait long... and SW77... I don't usually modify mine, they get returned broken in the same style as they came from the factory
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Posted By: kapla
Date Posted: March-17-2011 at 4:10pm
eric lavine wrote:
Kap, Sata, paint guns? |
the same, but they also make the whole lineup of tools...
http://www.satatools.com.sg/site/?m=100&f=100 - sata tools
they are available down here, and they really look tough...
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Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: March-17-2011 at 11:23pm
great paint guns, these guys swear by them and they do set you back
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Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: March-17-2011 at 11:25pm
I failed to mention that the 19 mm socket from my earlier post was a 1/2" drive, I snapped one of the Mac 3/4 to 1/2 reducers i was using
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Posted By: Luchog
Date Posted: April-28-2011 at 12:37am
Well, my old man went to the US, I ended up ordering a Craftsman 283 pieces "mechanic set" and some extras missing in the box such as extensions and force bars.
Unless they are really Crapsman, You cant beat that price.
I will keep in mind the ratchets issue, but I rarely torque with them. If they do break, I'll just get some locally. What I really wanted were the socket sets. For the combination wrenches, I will see how they feel as my Bahcos are really nice and I have most the SAE set.
If the Old man isnt stranded at customs because of 60lbs of steel, I should have the tools in my hand by friday.
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Posted By: Sangeeth10
Date Posted: May-02-2011 at 10:24am
I want to know a good site which I can bought some good branded tools ?
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